OK I have to break down and Quake LOL

[Racket_Man]

I was cleaning up my computer space and found my old Quake CD. This one was supposedly the one that will run on a XP manachine. since I now have a Vista machine --

Is there ANY way to get Quake to work on a Vista machine????


I could barely get it to run (if at all) on an XP machine but since that machine is trash..... any suggestions as I really still like quake

[Naaman]

What have you tried already?

Also I believe Vista has a compatibility mode. Try Right clicking the desktop icon and see what the options are :)

[Broomjockey]

Yep, there's a compatability mode, and you should be able to find it without too difficult a search. Supposed to work really well, too.

[Geek King]

I think it's right-click the icon, select proporties, and look for the option that lets you change the compatability to Windows XP. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Vista does some things differently behind the scenes, so not all XP software will work. Depends on how it was programmed origionally. Good Luck!

[Racket_Man]

when I had the XP box I tried all of the compatability modes and played with the (??) DOS settings for a command line window but could not get it to work at all. the last OS I was able to get it to work was Win95 but even that compatabilty mode did not want to work

[LostMyMind]

My suggestion is to dual-boot. Have a secondary boot for games and put XP on that one.

Other than that, I suggest quakeone (http://www.quakeone.com). They probably already have a work around to get quake working on Vista (as far as I know, a work around is require for all versions of quake)

[MadMike]

I use GLQuake on my XP machine. Don't know if it works under Vista or not, but it might be worth trying. So far, I haven't been able to get it to do anything other than 640X480, but it doesn't look too bad.

One place you can get it is at fileplanet.com.

[Anriana]

Yep, there's a compatability mode, and you should be able to find it without too difficult a search. Supposed to work really well, too.


Something in Vista working really well? Haha.

[Geek King]

Something in Vista working really well? Haha.

Actually, yes. The whole workplace is seriously considering a switchover. We just got in the first experimental box with Vista on it that will run a CAD program for our housing engineers. So far the only problem is some programs we'll have to upgrade due to compatability issues, and an odd USB issue with drive letter assignment when you have a lot of mapped drives (which I figured out, yay me! :p).

I've also been running it at home as my gaming PC with a great deal of success. Don't believe the hype, Vista is a pretty decent system, even if the hand-holding gets annoying sometimes.

[Broomjockey]

even if the hand-holding gets annoying sometimes.

And you can turn off all the hand-holding. First thing's disabling the UAC. Then hit the indexing. From there, go to tastes.

I think people just bash Vista because it's fashionable. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: people who bash Vista either never worked with, or forgot about, Windows Millenium Edition.

[Geek King]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: people who bash Vista either never worked with, or forgot about, Windows Millenium Edition.

Or MS-Bob.

Or several iterations of Mac OS.

Or the 'fun' of writing your own drivers in Linux.


Every system has problems and mis-steps. Hating a something just for the name looks silly. Except bears. Bears are pure evil, of course.

[Broomjockey]

Except bears. Bears are pure evil, of course.

Wait, are we talking like grizzlies, or "Da Bears"? Because only one of those is pure evil. The other is simply misunderstood.

[Naaman]

I think people just bash Vista because it's fashionable. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: people who bash Vista either never worked with, or forgot about, Windows Millenium Edition.

I think a lot of the Vista hate stemmed from;
a) Very dodgy driver support at launch and way too much finger pointing between MS and everyone else as to whose fault it was.

b) The dodgy OEM computer builds that were pre-loaded with Vista despite barely scraping by on the minimum requirements

[Rapscallion]

So far, my dealings with Vista involve a much under-rammed computer (one Gb, but 256Mb of that is shared for the video card) from a major supplier, and it crashed twice during the setup process. It did recover and continue on both occasions, though. It's still damned slow on that amount of RAM, and I recently suggested to my father that he ought to go back and pay for it doubling to increase its speed.

I am, however, thinking about a new beast in about three months. Overtime has been plentiful, and I'm building up the cash quite nicely. I'm seriously thinking about Vista for it, but I'm reckoning on a minimum of 4Gb to run it. I've been running XP on 1Gb for over three years now, so it would be reasonable to expect far higher hardware requirements.

Rapscallion

[MadMike]

Something in Vista working really well? Haha.

I don't care much for Vista, but Compatability doesn't work very well in XP either. I've only seen one or two incidents where it actually helped.

[Eric the Grey]

And you can turn off all the hand-holding. First thing's disabling the UAC. Then hit the indexing. From there, go to tastes.

I think people just bash Vista because it's fashionable. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: people who bash Vista either never worked with, or forgot about, Windows Millenium Edition.

Or the problems that XP had which were almost identical...:rolleyes:

Personally, I prefer to keep UAC on. I've had a couple of times when a website has tried to force an installation of something that IE didn't catch, and UAC allowed me to stop it. It's happened with other disks as well. It's just too easy to do silent installs on an XP machine for my liking.

I haven't found how to turn off indexing though, although I really haven't looked. It seems to like to pick the times when I'm playing WoW to do it, so it's something I've been meaning to do. :o

I don't care much for Vista, but Compatability doesn't work very well in XP either. I've only seen one or two incidents where it actually helped.

Yea, compatibility mode sucked. I've not really tried with Vista because the games I play currently all run fine as they are. I wish I had a suggestion for the OP. Perhaps setting up a virtual machine that runs DOS and running the game directly from that? I use Virtualbox (http://www.virtualbox.org/) for virtualization on my Vista Home box since Virtual PC isn't supported (although it will run, sometimes). VirutalBox has worked pretty well, so far.



:cool: Eric the Grey

[Geek King]

I am, however, thinking about a new beast in about three months. Overtime has been plentiful, and I'm building up the cash quite nicely. I'm seriously thinking about Vista for it, but I'm reckoning on a minimum of 4Gb to run it. I've been running XP on 1Gb for over three years now, so it would be reasonable to expect far higher hardware requirements.

Rapscallion

2GB will run Vista fine, if you want to save a little cash, but 4GB won't hurt you, other than running up against the RAM limit if you're using the 32-bit version.

The biggest complaint I hear from people?
"It doesn't look like XP."

I try to keep from rolling my eyes. :rolleyes: Oops, there I go...

[Broomjockey]

Personally, I prefer to keep UAC on. I've had a couple of times when a website has tried to force an installation of something that IE didn't catch, and UAC allowed me to stop it. It's happened with other disks as well. It's just too easy to do silent installs on an XP machine for my liking.


I thought about that, but solved that issue by getting the active registry watch function of SpyBot. Anything that wants to run itself needs a registry entry, and I can shut it down hard from there. I tried running UAC for a little, but almost went insane after the first bit. Although that was while I was setting up the system, and so doing a lot of stuff. Might be better now that it's set up. :shrug:

[Eric the Grey]

I thought about that, but solved that issue by getting the active registry watch function of SpyBot. Anything that wants to run itself needs a registry entry, and I can shut it down hard from there. I tried running UAC for a little, but almost went insane after the first bit. Although that was while I was setting up the system, and so doing a lot of stuff. Might be better now that it's set up. :shrug:

Oh yes! It definitely gets better after you've got everything set up and going. There is ONE application that I use on a semi-regular basis that seems to have to be escalated whenever I run it, and I keep hoping they'll up date to run correctly with Vista, but that's minor too.

Once you get beyond the whole installation of everything you normally use, you only really see it when you install new stuff, or like the above, if something insists on running with administrator privileges. Ya just gotta get beyond that first few days...

My nephew just got a new laptop and was debating on keeping Vista or "upgrading" (as he puts it) to XP. I managed to convince him to stick with it long enough to give it a try, and he's also decided it's worth keeping.



:cool: Eric the Grey

[Racket_Man]

My suggestion is to dual-boot. Have a secondary boot for games and put XP on that one.

Other than that, I suggest quakeone (http://www.quakeone.com). They probably already have a work around to get quake working on Vista (as far as I know, a work around is require for all versions of quake)

I use GLQuake on my XP machine. Don't know if it works under Vista or not, but it might be worth trying. So far, I haven't been able to get it to do anything other than 640X480, but it doesn't look too bad.

One place you can get it is at fileplanet.com.

BIG thanks to Mad Mike and Lost MyMind.

this works beautifully and looks great too. I wish I had GLQuake and Proquake launcher when I had my XP machine (would have saved me a lolt of frustrating hours of various changes. I know I did a google search at the time but it seems that fileplanet or quakeone did not come up in the results. Now if I can get all of the old maps to work that will be great too.

I still love Quake. I just complete M1L1 (or is it L1M1) in my customary 5.5 minutes

Something in Vista working really well? Haha.

yes now I am happy

again thanks to every one for the info and suggestions. you guys came through once again for me.