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I'm writing a poem for my english class and want to put in "you cannot hide yourself, behind a fairytale, forever and ever", but don't know if it's possible to quote a song within a poem?
Chazzie
02-09-2009, 01:01 AM
I don't think you can quote it unless you make it plain that it's a reference-- somehow saying "as the song goes, 'quote goes here'" or something. Avoiding Plagarism is sticky business.
I don't think you can quote it unless you make it plain that it's a reference-- somehow saying "as the song goes, 'quote goes here'" or something. Avoiding Plagarism is sticky business.Definately would be quoted with " around it and (Epica) at the end of the quote, but is that acceptable in a poem?
Chazzie
02-09-2009, 01:05 AM
Personally, I wouldn't think so, but you'd be best off asking your English teacher. I'd say write the poem, and make a line that can be interchangeable with the quote- if your teacher says no, you can just give him/her the poem without the quote.
Personally, I wouldn't think so, but you'd be best off asking your English teacher. I'd say write the poem, and make a line that can be interchangeable with the quote- if your teacher says no, you can just give him/her the poem without the quote.Sounds like a good idea :) Unfortunately it was assigned Friday due Monday and I only started listening to Epica on Friday night.
Broomjockey
02-09-2009, 01:55 AM
"Acceptable" varies with format and teacher. If it fits in to the type of poem you're writing, then it's technically acceptable. However, you know your teacher best. Are they going to think you took the easy way out in quoting this? Are they going to dislike the fact that it's not completely your own work? Or will they think that you're good for taking inspiration from something that spoke to you?
"Acceptable" varies with format and teacher. If it fits in to the type of poem you're writing, then it's technically acceptable. However, you know your teacher best. Are they going to think you took the easy way out in quoting this? Are they going to dislike the fact that it's not completely your own work? Or will they think that you're good for taking inspiration from something that spoke to you?I've been a student at this school for 6 days only, I don't know any of the teachers well.
Evil Queen
02-09-2009, 02:07 AM
Don't quote the song. Even if it's for a class, as previously stated, it's plagerism. Particularly if the teacher decides to publish said poem -- Happened to me in 3rd grade. I didn't even know the stupid poem was going to be published; otherwise I would have done a better job at it. :lol:
Shpepper
02-09-2009, 02:09 AM
Write it both ways and then when you turn it in ask the teacher about quoting things like that. If you do it both ways, you will show that you can do the work on your own and also have the other version that you want as well.
I have two versions suitable to hand in, one with the lyrics, one without. ^_^
AdminAssistant
02-09-2009, 02:19 AM
Poetry (unless it's "post-modern") is supposed to be original. From YOU, not a songwriter. I imagine that one of the purposes of your assignment is to get you to think creatively. Even with citation, don't quote the song.
Poetry (unless it's "post-modern") is supposed to be original. From YOU, not a songwriter. I imagine that one of the purposes of your assignment is to get you to think creatively. Even with citation, don't quote the song.I see what you mean by that.
AdminAssistant
02-09-2009, 02:22 AM
I have a rough draft with notes showing such. Now I just hope that they don't ask to upload our work to Turnitin if they crawl this site. "Turnitin is a poor excuse for properly trained individuals"
Yes, but how many students are there? Plagiarism software is invaluable to teachers who have far too many students to Google every single 'iffy' line. My University uses SafeAssign, and I wish we had it set up for our class. Unfortunately, my University has it set up through BlackBoard which is a giant pain in the backside.
It's not a poor excuse. It's a tool to find and stop academic dishonesty.
Yes, but how many students are there? Plagiarism software is invaluable to teachers who have far too many students to Google every single 'iffy' line. My University uses SafeAssign, and I wish we had it set up for our class. Unfortunately, my University has it set up through BlackBoard which is a giant pain in the backside.
It's not a poor excuse. It's a tool to find and stop academic dishonesty.I had a problem in Grade 11 with an assignment worth 10% of my mark. It said it was plagiarized 100% from a document submitted to the same class with the same title. There was no plagiarism though. And the school admin sided with the teacher on it, even though I had a one inch thick stack of rough work (notes, drafts, editing sheets, etc.), I have a picture of that on my iMac, because people tend to not believe it.
There's a reason why some educational institutions have prohibited the use of Turnitin. (Mount Saint Vincent University in Nova Scotia, McGill University students have fought the mandatory use of Turnitin successfully (McGill is a very-highly considered Canadian University), Ryerson University does not require the use of Turnitin). And if I am ever required to upload anything to Turnitin, I will fight it. If in high school, to the Board of Trustees if need be. If in University, as ever high as possible.
Oh, and I decided to use the version without the song lyrics. After some other changes it just sounds much better.
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