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smileyeagle1021
06-08-2009, 09:36 AM
Oh... Delta... how I love thee... not.

there's always at least one
Ok, so, how the distressed passengers work in Salt Lake is, your flight gets canceled and either Delta offers to pay for your room or they give you GK's number.
If Delta is paying for it, they hand you a voucher with the hotel name on it, and they tell you that they have made a reservation on your behalf and a shuttle is on its way. They tell you that you don't have to call the hotel, it has all been worked out. Theoretically in this exchange, the only call I should ever receive is from the Delta representative at the airport calling to tell me "we have X passengers waiting and gave out X vouchers from the rooms we reserved from you guys, please send a shuttle for that many people"
So why is it that every single night we still get at least one person who calls in "hi, Delta just gave me a voucher, I need to arrange transportation"... gah... did you not pay attention to the lady at the desk who told you it was already taken care of... can you please bugger off my phone so I can get back to helping people who actually need help
kthanxbye

momma's boy
With a title like that, you know this is going to be ugly.
So, Mr. 208... this guy is a special case of suck.
He never requested a wake up call, I know this for a fact, I checked him in, and asked whether or not he needed a wake-up call, and he said no, he'd just use the alarm clock. I remember him in particular because he wanted to pay a cash deposit for just enough for a movie.
Fast forward to 6AM, his friend checks out, asks me to connect him to the room 208... no answer... I know he stayed on the line long enough though for it to register on the voice mail (the switchboard printer printed a line for voice mail left)
Friend then proceeds to call back every 10 minutes asking to be connected to the room... half of those times the call goes to voice mail (remember, our switchboard records every time a message is left or retrieved, as well as when wake up calls are programmed and answered)
Come 6:45, the guy is scheduled for a shuttle, doesn't show, the driver goes to knock on the door, no answer, I tell the shuttle driver to do his run and check on the room when he gets back.
Now, this is where mommy get's involved. At 7am she calls concerned that her son didn't call to tell her that he had checked in yet.
I tell her that we have been calling his room since 6am and had tried knocking and I had every intention of having the shuttle driver check on him as soon as he got back from the airport (which would be about 5 minutes from when she called). She tells us to be sure to do that (thank you... that completely takes us off the hook for any invasion of privacy complaints because a relative has instructed us to go into the room due to what we assume is a legit concern).
So, shuttle driver gets back, he goes, overrides the lock on the guys door. He reported that the alarm clock was going off, all the lights were on, the TV was on (that much I knew actually, because I was checking lodgenet on his room to make sure the billing was right since he had mentioned he wanted to order a movie). He shook the kid (and I use the term loosely, I'd place him to be 18-20) awake, told him that he had missed his shuttle, that his family had called concerned, was he OK. The kid told the driver that he was fine, just really tired, he'd be down in a minute.
Of course, the shuttle driver, not being his nanny, left the room to let him get ready. What do you know, kid falls back asleep. Mother calls back, asks if he's OK, I tell her yes, he just slept through his alarm (and about a dozen by now wake calls), the shuttle driver woke him up, he should be getting ready on be on his way (we were even going to make an extra run to the airport for him). She asks me to connect her to his room, I transfer her... about a minute later I hear the printer going... the shit has hit the fan.
Mother calls again, he's not answering his phone, can you please have the shuttle driver check on him again. Shuttle driver goes up... and to give the kid credit, this time the shuttle driver found him on top of the sheets, still in nothing but his boxers though, passed out sound asleep (of course the perv in me kind of wishes that I had been the one that had been sent up to his room :devil: yeah, I'm terrible). This time the shuttle driver wakes him up and this time does play nanny and quite literally helped him get dressed. Walked him down to the desk... by this point the kid is awake enough to know that "shit, I'm late for my flight"
What is his first question he asks me, "why the hell didn't you guys give me my wake up call"
I was tired of dealing with this shit for the last hour and a half (my replacement had already come in just after 7, but I stayed to make sure Mr. 208 got taken care of since I knew what was going on and the morning shift girl didn't)
so, I gave it to him (politely of course)- "sir, I remember quite clearly last night you saying you didn't need a wake-up call, you'd just use the alarm clock, as it happens, we have been calling your room since about 6am, if you would like, I can show you the report that has calls every 10 minutes going to your voice mail, at 6:45 the shuttle driver knocked on your door, at just after 7 he went in to make sure you were OK and shook you awake, and then had to go back at about 7:15 to wake you up again, we have done much more than is required of us in this situation, now, the shuttle driver will be happy to take you to the airport and hopefully you won't miss your flight" (because I never want to deal with you again)
His response, was priceless- "if I miss my flight because of this, you'll be hearing from my mother"
yes, 18-20 years old and he threatened me with a call from his mother...
And I'm sure mom would like to know the detail about the fact that part of the reason you were so tired was because you were watching a porno at 2:30 in the morning... oh yes... we can look up what movies it is you watched... so please, do have her call us :devil:

I am starting to hate people from my home state
So, this lovely gent checked in tonight.
SC- what's open still (it was 1am)
Me- there isn't anything within walking distance open right now, but Big Daddy's Pizza is still open and will deliver.
SC- what the fuck, there's only one place open.
Me- only one place open that will deliver, yes sir.
SC- how many people live in Salt Lake.
Me- approximately 1.2 million in Salt Lake.
SC- then how the fuck is it that there is 24 hour restaurants near every hotel in Reno with only a quarter of that many people? This would never stand back home.
Me- there actually are quite a few places open 24 hours a day, most of them are in downtown or midvalley, and a few in the residential areas... the airport is kind of out in the middle of nowhere though.
SC- still, with 1.2 million people you'd think there'd be more delivery places open 24 hours.
Me- once again, there are, just not that deliver this far out.
SC- when Delta strands passengers in Reno they send them to the Atlantis (oh bullshit, Delta is NOT sending people to a resort), they've got 24 hour restaurants on site, how can you not have anything open out here.
Me- Sir, that is not a fair comparison... first, the Atlantis is in an area that would warrant extended hours of service whether or not a hotel was there with all the people who live in that area, right off of Virginia Ave with all the traffic there, and that aside, the entirety of the Airport hotels on the east side of the Airport have about 100 less rooms than the Atlantis does on its own. A more fair comparison would be to the Best Western at the Reno Tahoe International Airport, they have no restaurant on site, and the closest 24 hour restaurant is the Dennys on Plumb across from Wooster High School, and trust me, you don't want to be making that walk, any more than you want to make the walk to the Dennys at North Temple and Redwood. And Reno's airport is right in the center of the city rather than outside it. So, please sir, take the menu for Big Daddy's and stop trying to lecture me on how the city should be, even though I am the person with the least control over it.
SC- oh, you must have lived at Reno in one point (gee, what gave that away asshole...) what brought you to this hell hole of a city... you aren't one of those fucking Mormons are you? Who else would actually chose to live like this.
Me- get the hell out of my lobby, why I chose to move here is none of your business, and for the record, no I'm not.

God, he got to me for some reason.
And, for those who aren't a product of Nevada's now bankrupt education system, it's pretty obvious why someone who isn't Mormon would want to move from Nevada to Utah. 1/3 the unemployment, cost of living that is considerably lower than in Nevada, an educational system that isn't completely bankrupt that charges much less tuition, a university system that has international renown, a transportation system that isn't so painfully overloaded that rush hour lasts damn near 24 hours a day, an airport that isn't being run out of a fucking tent, and while I'm at it, let's mention the fact that other than stuff not having extended hours there is a lot more one can do here than in Reno. Kythanxgetthehellout.

SorryIsGoodEnough
06-08-2009, 09:44 AM
I had a regular guest at the Wingate in Wyoming who would always ask why I left California for Wyoming. I sure regretted ever letting him know that I wasn't a native!

smileyeagle1021
06-08-2009, 11:21 AM
I had a regular guest at the Wingate in Wyoming who would always ask why I left California for Wyoming.

So... why did you move from California to Wyoming :p
(i know, none of my business if you don't want to tell me)

MercenaryMuffin
06-08-2009, 11:38 AM
A better question is: Why would anyone voluntarily live in California? :lol::p

Stormraven
06-08-2009, 03:00 PM
The climate. Although it does get hotter than I like it in the summer (I can't afford to live on the coast itself) it's overall cool enough for me.

Fenrus
06-08-2009, 03:27 PM
Why would anyone voluntarily live in California?


The local produce. Nuff said. :D

MercenaryMuffin
06-08-2009, 03:31 PM
Pfft, once California falls into the ocean, Las Vegas will be beach-front property. Then I'll be rich.

smileyeagle1021
06-08-2009, 03:39 PM
Pfft, once California falls into the ocean, Las Vegas will be beach-front property. Then I'll be rich.

I hate to be the one to break it to you... but the fault line isn't that far east :p

MercenaryMuffin
06-08-2009, 03:59 PM
IT WILL BE ONCE I'M DONE WITH IT.

:lol:

JoitheArtist
06-08-2009, 05:51 PM
Reasons to live in California:

Climate: Damn near perfect.

Plants: As long as you don't have many allergies, all the blooming plants. My favorites are the jacaranda trees. Clouds of purple flowers, all over the Southland--GORGEOUS.

Culture: Since moving out here I've learned to love Indian, Ethiopian, and Thai food, as well as Mongolian BBQ. The farmer's market near my house has booths for home-made Mexican, Asian, and Greek foods. Our favorite gathering place is the local British-style pub. One of my favorite cafes has a hookah bar, and the opera is a 30 minute drive, with $10 seats.

Landscape: My friends and I have found numerous parks within 30 minutes of our houses, as well as a lovely wildlife sanctuary. The rolling hills are lovely even in a drought, and the beach is only 30 minutes away.

Jester
06-08-2009, 07:13 PM
...let's mention the fact that other than stuff not having extended hours there is a lot more one can do here than in Reno.

Except, of course, drink. As I found out in my short stay there.

Yes, one can drink in SLC. But as one SLC bartender put it to me, "You can't really be a lazy drunk here."

I would guess that it is quite easy to be a lazy drunk in a place like Reno. Though, of course, I could be wrong. I kind of picture Reno as a mini-Vegas kinda place.

All that being said, dude was an ass. You don't control what is and what is not open, what does and what does not deliver, or the location of the airport and its surrounding environs.

sms001
06-08-2009, 09:00 PM
Yeah yeah yeah, last guy was an ass. But I'm still in shock that a twenty-something told SE: "I'm telling my mommy on you!" :eek::lol::roll:

Kiwi
06-08-2009, 09:05 PM
I would personally give my left tit to be able to live in California!

Gravekeeper
06-08-2009, 09:21 PM
SC- when Delta strands passengers in Reno they send them to the Atlantis (oh bullshit, Delta is NOT sending people to a resort), they've got 24 hour restaurants on site, how can you not have anything open out here.

It's true, we don't. ;p

No airline is going to put you up at a resort. You might get a fancier hotel, but you're only getting a small discount than. But no resorts.

smileyeagle1021
06-08-2009, 10:26 PM
Except, of course, drink. As I found out in my short stay there.


well, two things... one, according to his ID he hadn't turned 21 yet, so it's a moot point :p
and two, for those of us who don't drink that much, it's still a moot point :p

Yeah yeah yeah, last guy was an ass. But I'm still in shock that a twenty-something told SE: "I'm telling my mommy on you!" :eek::lol::roll:

like I said in another thread... I wouldn't be halfway surprised if Pepperelf ended up getting a call from a sucky customer who's son was stranded in Salt Lake (again) because he missed his flight.
Which update, I talked to morning shift
He did miss his flight :D
I know this because after missing his flight he realized he never got the change from the porno he ordered and called back to demand that the shuttle driver bring it to the airport while he was waiting for Delta to "fix their problem" (notice it's now Delta's problem somehow :rolleyes: )

and thanks for the support GK :)
I'm willing to believe this asshat believes that Delta sends people to any hotel with a hotel shuttle and that is the only reason that a hotel would have a shuttle... of course a 1500 room resort wouldn't want a shuttle as a way of, you know, a service to their paying guests :rolleyes:

bainsidhe
06-08-2009, 10:48 PM
HAHAHAHA. Nice update. Please let us know if anything further develops...or if mummy calls. Ha.

Irving Patrick Freleigh
06-08-2009, 11:22 PM
A better question is: Why would anyone voluntarily live in California? :lol::p

Earthquakes and wildfires, and the places in California where I'd want to live are so far above my pay grade it isn't funny.

I've not been in much of California--only from say Bakersfield to Yosemite National Park on a vacation a few years ago--but what I saw wasn't anything special.

Mark Healey
06-08-2009, 11:40 PM
A better question is: Why would anyone voluntarily live in California? :lol::p

The U.S.s top two exports are centered in California, Entertainment from L.A and Tech from San Jose.

Ten of the top 50 U.S. Universities are in California (That's actually an old figure. It might have gone up or down by one or two.).

Insanely high agricultural production.

Pretty good weather.

The downsides are:
We pay for it
Public education sucks. We don't produce enough qualified candidates for the universities.
We will be in a desperate water situation soon
Brushfires all the damn time
Too many hippies

Ironclad Alibi
06-09-2009, 03:15 AM
The downsides are:

The ground moves way too much. (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsus/)

BethB
06-09-2009, 04:59 AM
What's wrong with Wyoming? I lives in cowboy land!

But mamma's boy there? Loser!

Food Lady
06-09-2009, 05:42 AM
A better question is: Why would anyone voluntarily live in California? :lol::p Word.

And I'm an ex-Californian. Here's what I don't miss:

--smog

--gangs

--crowded schools

--graffiti everywhere

--empty fields full of trash

--police helicopters over my neighborhood

--having to compete with illegals for a min. wage job

--$750 to $1000 for a 1-bed apt

--mountain lions, coyotes, rattlesnakes

TravisRB69
06-09-2009, 03:22 PM
Better Wyoming than western Montana. There are so many rich Californians there buying up land that they're only there to occupy less than half the year and when they ARE there are complete self-entitled snobs that expect to get away with everything they'd get away with in California, that western Montana basically IS California.

PhotoChick
06-09-2009, 03:43 PM
all i have to say is i would love to pay only $750 for a 1 bedroom

hobbitt97
06-09-2009, 03:58 PM
Reasons to live in California:

Climate: Damn near perfect.

Plants: As long as you don't have many allergies, all the blooming plants. My favorites are the jacaranda trees. Clouds of purple flowers, all over the Southland--GORGEOUS.

Culture: Since moving out here I've learned to love Indian, Ethiopian, and Thai food, as well as Mongolian BBQ. The farmer's market near my house has booths for home-made Mexican, Asian, and Greek foods. Our favorite gathering place is the local British-style pub. One of my favorite cafes has a hookah bar, and the opera is a 30 minute drive, with $10 seats.

Landscape: My friends and I have found numerous parks within 30 minutes of our houses, as well as a lovely wildlife sanctuary. The rolling hills are lovely even in a drought, and the beach is only 30 minutes away.

and I thought it was the almost legal marijuana :D

Mordecai
06-09-2009, 05:43 PM
and I thought it was the almost legal marijuana :D

Well, that goes without saying. ;)

Rapscallion
06-09-2009, 08:25 PM
I would personally give my left tit to be able to live in California!

I've been on forums where they'd take you up on that offer.

Rapscallion

Gravekeeper
06-09-2009, 09:57 PM
I've been on forums where they'd take you up on that offer.

Rapscallion

Were you a mod on them too? <ducks>

BookstoreEscapee
06-10-2009, 12:34 AM
all i have to say is i would love to pay only $750 for a 1 bedroom

Seriously. You won't find that in Jersey...

Pagan
06-10-2009, 01:20 AM
a university system that has international renown,

Well, Nevada's got that, too....just not in a good way.

Reasons to live in California:
Climate:
Plants:
Culture:
Landscape:

We've got that here. Well, except that the Opera is just outside of Santa Fe (but it's not much of a drive from ABQ either) and the closest we can get to beach front is Elephant Butte.

Earthquakes and wildfires, and the places in California where I'd want to live are so far above my pay grade it isn't funny.

And we've got these, too.

--having to compete with illegals for a min. wage job

--mountain lions, coyotes, rattlesnakes

Check, check, check, check, plus two bears in Rio Rancho today.

all i have to say is i would love to pay only $750 for a 1 bedroom

Heh, I only pay $590. I'd tell you how big, but I'm afraid that you might hunt me down and hurt me. :p

Megg
06-10-2009, 01:21 AM
Why to live in California? As someone coming off a 5 year stint in Idaho, I got one word for you:

SNOW! I hate, despise, revile it! #1 reason we came back to Cali was no snow. Really, though, you have to have good cash flow to enjoy living in California. Beach house next year, baybay! :)

Oh yeah, one other reason:

The local produce. Nuff said.

:angel:

StanFlouride
06-10-2009, 03:08 AM
The local produce. Nuff said. :D

As I sit here eating a huge bowl of incredibly delicious organic blackberries, raspberries, and yoghurt (total cost about $2.25) I was thinking EXACTLY the same thing.

smileyeagle1021
06-10-2009, 03:15 AM
On the topic of why anyone would move to california.
For this month, every person who has told me they thought I was attractive has lived either in San Francisco, Dallas, or Boston. Dallas is way too hot, Boston is way too cold... which leaves San Fran :)
That and San Francisco seems to be the unofficial gay geek capital of the world, has an airport that puts SLC to shame, has a hell of a lot more jobs in my chosen career path (if I ever actually finish college, unless I can find a better paying job that may be a big if since I can't really afford it right now), as Megg pointed out doesn't have snow, and the city itself has a certain character to it, unlike Salt Lake which, unless you are into chapels and temples, is a bunch of bland office buildings surrounded by a bunch of bland shopping centers, surrounded by endless miles of bland cookie cutter homes and generic apartment complexes. The city, with the exception of downtown, the avenues, and sugarhouse, has no soul.

Put in short, if I could move I would already be packing.

Oh, and I take back the first thing I said, there was someone from Idaho who complimented me... except, being a woman isn't my gender of preference, and she was drunk, and she thought it was sexy how I looked a bit like the Pillsburry Dough Boy :cry: that is just wrong on so many levels :cry:

Megg
06-10-2009, 03:22 AM
Oh, and I take back the first thing I said, there was someone from Idaho who complimented me... except, being a woman isn't my gender of preference, and she was drunk, and she thought it was sexy how I looked a bit like the Pillsburry Dough Boy that is just wrong on so many levels

Another good reason we left Idaho. :lol:

Bliss
06-10-2009, 04:34 AM
(of course the perv in me kind of wishes that I had been the one that had been sent up to his room :devil: yeah, I'm terrible).

Hey, who knows, it could've been the best waking up experience of his life, sure after the shock and screaming wore off :D

Slytovhand
06-10-2009, 05:05 AM
I don't spose you could have posted a cheque for his change? That way, you could have had it itemised. I'd be prepared to bet his mommy would be opening his mail for him :D

Hmm - Cali... sounds like Queensland... only a lot more expensive! :D (well, maybe not the opera... although....) As the ads say - "Queensland - beautiful one day, perfect the next"

Rapscallion
06-10-2009, 08:24 AM
Were you a mod on them too? <ducks>

Owner of one of them...

Rapscallion

RootedPhoenix
06-10-2009, 09:08 AM
Reasons to live in California:

Plants: As long as you don't have many allergies, all the blooming plants. My favorites are the jacaranda trees. Clouds of purple flowers, all over the Southland--GORGEOUS.

JACARANDA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/jacaranda) TREES. SO FULL OF WIN.

Someday I will own one. Maybe even fifty. ALL THE BLOOMS WILL BE MINE! BWAHAHA!!!

*hushes* :D :angel:

Also, Mongolian BBQ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolian_BBQ) is awesome. Local produce too.

It's harder to find this stuff where I am right now, but it's around, and it rocks.

Jester
06-10-2009, 11:48 AM
and two, for those of us who don't drink that much, it's still a moot point

I think we all know that I don't fall into that category! :cheers:

I've not been in much of California--only from say Bakersfield to Yosemite National Park on a vacation a few years ago--but what I saw wasn't anything special.

Judging California by what you saw in Bakersfield would be like judging New Jersey based on Newark. Not all of Jersey is that disgusting, and not all of California is as mind-numbingly boring as Bakersfield. Bakersfield sucks big donkey dick, but is not in any way representative of California, my friend!

And to those who live in Bakersfield, my apologies. Not for what I said above, mind you....just for you living there! :lol:

Dallas is way too hot, Boston is way too cold... which leaves San Fran

Which happens to be the city with the screwiest weather EVER. Seriously, San Fran is so bizarre weatherwise, it defies description.

I never got that Mark Twain line about the coldest winter he ever spent was the summer he spent in San Francisco.....until I spent some time in San Francisco.

I get it. Oh, do I ever.

SengaKitty
06-10-2009, 12:28 PM
Hmmm... Here in Louisville (of course, we're Kentuckiana, not Kentucky... and if/when any of you ever visit, you'll understand) we have: earthquakes (had one in December), but we also have lots of trees, local produce, generally great weather, lots of culture, plenty of places to go drinking after hours (Jester), awesome gay clubs that are very classy (Smiley), great jobs (Smiley again... oh and me :D), and I only pay $400 for my downtown 1 bedroom apartment with 12ft ceilings, floor to ceiling windows, in an historic building.

I'd love to visit California, but never live there (though I could transfer there if I wanted..)

smileyeagle1021
06-10-2009, 03:23 PM
, awesome gay clubs that are very classy (Smiley))

how about a gaymer club :)

Andara Bledin
06-10-2009, 08:22 PM
My favorites are the jacaranda trees. Clouds of purple flowers, all over the Southland--GORGEOUS.
If you ever live with one on your property, you will quickly learn to despise them for the devil-flowers they are. Seriously, they're full of white sap stuff that sticks to cars and are a bitch and a half to clean up.

They're fun to drive over, though. They make neat popping noises. Like nature's bubble wrap! :D
I've not been in much of California--only from say Bakersfield to Yosemite National Park on a vacation a few years ago--but what I saw wasn't anything special.
Judging California by what you saw in Bakersfield would be like judging New Jersey based on Newark. Not all of Jersey is that disgusting, and not all of California is as mind-numbingly boring as Bakersfield. Bakersfield sucks big donkey dick, but is not in any way representative of California, my friend!
I have family that used to be in Bakersfield. I agree with everything Jester said.
And I'm an ex-Californian. Here's what I don't miss:

--smog
--gangs
--crowded schools
--graffiti everywhere
--empty fields full of trash
--police helicopters over my neighborhood
--having to compete with illegals for a min. wage job
--$750 to $1000 for a 1-bed apt
--mountain lions, coyotes, rattlesnakes
The vast majority of people don't realize that this isn't a large percentage of the state. Hell, most Californians don't really know most of the state, just what they see in their immediate neighborhood. *shrug*
On the topic of why anyone would move to california.
For this month, every person who has told me they thought I was attractive has lived either in San Francisco, Dallas, or Boston. Dallas is way too hot, Boston is way too cold... which leaves San Fran :)
You could always come to Long Beach. We've got a massive GLBT population in this area, from what I've gathered.

^-.-^

smileyeagle1021
06-11-2009, 05:57 AM
You could always come to Long Beach. We've got a massive GLBT population in this area, from what I've gathered.


I'd not heard that... and hell, for that matter Utah has more of a GLBT population than we're given credit for...
I'm just going off of where most guys who have said I'm their type have come from, and I haven't gotten any from Long Beach yet :p

Then again, my only social interactions are online and with guests, we don't get guests from Salt Lake (save those cheating on spouses :p ) and don't get much from SoCal either... :shrug:

Andara Bledin
06-11-2009, 04:51 PM
Heh. I'm willing to bet that the majority of SoCalers to hit Utah only show up to watch when the Lakers are up there. :p

(I don't actually know this, I'm just pokin' fun)

^-.-^

PCGameGuy
06-11-2009, 06:22 PM
On the topic of why anyone would move to california.
...has an airport that puts SLC to shame...

Yeah, about that airport.... :) Best thing to do on incoming flights is to tell as many people as you can to look out the windows for Alcatraz island. See, on the incoming flights you come in over the ocean, and the runway ends very close to the shore. So as you are looking out the window you lose sight of the airport and all you see is the beautiful ocean.... getting closer.... and closer..... and you see the shadow getting closer.... and you see the startled looks on the fish.... and then you hit runway and are down. :)

And the steward/ess hates you for making a plane full of people freak out that they are going to die in the ocean. :devil:

Please tip generously. :roll:

smileyeagle1021
06-11-2009, 06:48 PM
PCGameGuy, Salt Lake Internation is kind of like that too with one of the runways... it goes into the wetlands a little... so it looks like you are about to crash into a marsh :yes:

In Reno the flight path takes you close enough to the Grand Sierra Resort to be able to see the outlines of people standing by their windows.

And yes, I've been to SFO once... and I did think it looked like we were ditching in the bay :lol:

Kiwi
06-11-2009, 06:57 PM
And yes, I've been to SFO once... and I did think it looked like we were ditching in the bay :lol:

Auckland airport is the same way, you are over water until your about 20 metres above ground and then suddenly runway appears underneath you... very unsettling the first couple of times you land there.

Pagan
06-11-2009, 07:00 PM
And yes, I've been to SFO once... and I did think it looked like we were ditching in the bay :lol:

It's kind of like that in Houston, too. Add a thunderstorm for maximum effect.

Heh, I thought we were going to land on the interstate that first time I flew into Love Field in Dallas.

Irving Patrick Freleigh
06-11-2009, 07:06 PM
PCGameGuy, Salt Lake Internation is kind of like that too with one of the runways... it goes into the wetlands a little... so it looks like you are about to crash into a marsh :yes:



Guess who's flying into SLC for his vacation in July. :wave:

Milwaukee is also the same way if you're coming in from the east, since the airport is not too far away from Lake Michigan.

dalesys
06-12-2009, 01:04 AM
I enjoyed flying into Baltimore International Airport from the south... shortly before touchdown there was a cemetary to the east...

Looked like good planning to me.:roll:

Jester
06-12-2009, 05:33 AM
And yes, I've been to SFO once... and I did think it looked like we were ditching in the bay.

I've been to San Fran three times, flying into SFO twice, and the first time was freaky, even for a guy who is not even slightly scared by flying. The second time, this last September, I knew what was coming, and it was very, very cool. But yeah, it really seems like you are about to land on the water, you get so damn close!

It's kind of like that in Houston, too. Add a thunderstorm for maximum effect.

I've connected through Houston several times in my journeys, and I don't remember any water, or it being anything like flying into SFO! We are talking about IAH, right?

Andara Bledin
06-12-2009, 06:40 AM
But yeah, it really seems like you are about to land on the water, you get so damn close!
The airport into Hawaii is like that. I had a window seat, and you do a bank just before hitting the runway, and I looked down the length of wing to see water, really really close.

I thought it was totally cool at the time and even took pictures. :D

^-.-^

Pagan
06-12-2009, 11:22 PM
I've connected through Houston several times in my journeys, and I don't remember any water, or it being anything like flying into SFO! We are talking about IAH, right?

Nope, Hobby.

That still doesn't beat when we were coming into Love Field. There was some basketball game that night so the interstate was jammed. We were all wondering if they needed to clear the road for our landing! :eek::lol:

driftwolf
07-11-2009, 04:06 PM
...
And I'm sure mom would like to know the detail about the fact that part of the reason you were so tired was because you were watching a porno at 2:30 in the morning... oh yes... we can look up what movies it is you watched... so please, do have her call us :devil:

BWAHAHAHAHA!! I'd love to hear THAT conversation!

smileyeagle1021
07-12-2009, 06:53 PM
since this thread has been bumped anyway

Word.

And I'm an ex-Californian. Here's what I don't miss:

--smog

--gangs

--crowded schools

--graffiti everywhere

--empty fields full of trash

--police helicopters over my neighborhood

--having to compete with illegals for a min. wage job

--$750 to $1000 for a 1-bed apt

--mountain lions, coyotes, rattlesnakes

Salt Lake has ungodly smog proof 1 (http://farm1.static.flickr.com/114/278044623_d91527784a.jpg) proof 2 (http://www.goodsearch.com/Image.aspx?imgurl=http://static.flickr.com/3109/3211046308_6644184da4.jpg&thurl=http://thm-a03.yimg.com/image/365381b6c8f41978&rurl=http://www.flickr.com/photos/smax/3211046308/&tt=91&no=11&name=Smog%20in%20Salt%20Lake%20City&w=500&h=375&size=64.2&type=jpeg) proof 3 (http://www.goodsearch.com/Image.aspx?imgurl=http://static.flickr.com/113/304317976_f24f830b56.jpg&thurl=http://thm-a02.yimg.com/image/502859a9ff659050&rurl=http://www.flickr.com/photos/aarongustafson/304317976/&tt=91&no=2&name=Smog%20over%20Salt%20Lake%20City&w=500&h=375&size=83.2&type=jpeg) ... I could go on... or you could just image search Salt Lake City smog and get pages of results (eta, also try Salt Lake City inversion... the locals don't call it smog... they call it inversions, so you'll get a lot more results that way)

we had our own episode of gangland once...

I never went through the k-12 in Utah, but I've heard it's quite crowded, I know it definitely was in Nevada (my elementary school had a capacity for roughly 500 students, there was roughly 900 attending)

Graffiti is quite common in South Salt Lake

ditto the fields of trash

don't have the police helicopters, but I am fairly close to one of the busier rail lines in the country

ditto illegal immigrants and competing for jobs

Rent is cheaper in nevada and utah, I will give you that much... our pay is also a lot less (minimum wage in california is about a dollar an hour more than I in Utah... hell within san francisco my starting wage at the call center would have been below minimum wage)

oh, and all those animals abound out here too...


Put in short, if I could move I would already be packing.


after my recent vacation, I must strongly emphasize how true that is... the only thing that is making utah a bit more bearable is having discovered The Escape (an alcohol free gay social group... yes, I was shocked to find out such a thing existed in Utah too)


Which happens to be the city with the screwiest weather EVER. Seriously, San Fran is so bizarre weatherwise, it defies description.


you know, I never really appreciated how true that was until I went there again... seriously, the weather seemed to vary by the block... in east bay it was hot and humid, get off the BART at Embarcadaro and it's cool and humid, take the muni to the Castro and it's hot and dry, then take the muni again to the pacific beach and it's warm and humid... and then between the next day it was all completely different again...

Heh. I'm willing to bet that the majority of SoCalers to hit Utah only show up to watch when the Lakers are up there. :p

(I don't actually know this, I'm just pokin' fun)

^-.-^

actually, since you mentioned that I did actually start paying a little bit more attention to when SoCalers were coming up... and over half the time it coincided with when a SoCal sports team (either professional or college) was up in Utah.

So you weren't far off there :p

BWAHAHAHAHA!! I'd love to hear THAT conversation!

yeah, I'd love to have heard it too... sadly the girl who handled that call ended up getting fired (for a completely unrelated issue) a few days later... and she never got a chance to tell us about it :(

SorchaMochrie
07-13-2009, 08:27 AM
The ground moves way too much. (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsus/)

I haven't experienced a bad quake since 89. I was 8 and mom didn't get home from work till about 10 that night because of the traffic. The electricity was out so I used candles, thus causing the only damage to our house due to the quake. You shouldn't place a candle beneath a glass shelf. I lived in Monterey at the time.

As apposed to tornadoes and hurricanes that happen every damn year.

Of course now I live in so cal and have to worry about wild fires, but they've only threatened my area twice since I moved here 8 years ago. Still better than living on the gulf or in tornado ally.

I've also never lived more than an hours drive from the Pacific.


Places I've lived and their charms.


Monterey: Frikken gorgeous, Trees, beaches, bikepaths, more theaters per capita than anywhere on earth except maybe London's west end. Tons of fog. Close to Santa Cruz for the boardwalk. Big Sur for the hiking. Carmel-by-the-sea for being Carmel-by-the-sea (also awesome sand castle contest) tho the Dream Theater and the Carousel are gone now, two icons from my youth.

San Jose: I could go see a movie starting at 3 am! Lots of trees. Excellent public transport. Jhonen Vasques is from here. Our high school computer club gave presentations to investors to donate money to the schools computer programs, and ran all the tech support for the teachers. Oh, and the Winchester mystery house.

Templeton/Pasorobles/San Luis Obispo: I was born here and my dad had a farm an hour out of town for a long time. This is total ag country. I had a pet cow forgoodnesssake. The lakes are the best part. Nacimiento and San Antonio, water skiing, swimming, cliff jumping, playing in the mud and counting eagles nests. Also a short drive to Morrow Bay, which has Hurtz Castle. Now my dad owns a winery, as Paso is becoming the next Napa.

San Diego:

Beaches, Mountains and Desert. All in the same county. The freeway and public transport here suck the most out of almost anywhere else I've lived. It was ove 100 today. But I walked on the beach with my girlfiends on friday night after eating at a bar and grill and enjoying the live entertainment. I drive up to visit my mother in law in the mountains to see snow in the winter. I spent memorial weekend out in the desert a few miles from the boarder camping at potrero (geek cred if you know why). And my husband can't live anywhere else until his kids are grown.

And Comic-Con. And dozens of Ren-faires. (ok maybe I'm counting the whole state for that one) Oh, and theirs indian casino's within a 30 min drive.


Oh, and Hillcrest for Smiley, who needs to meet my Aunt Mike. (so called because he was one of the older people in my Vamp Larp group.) He's a cute redhead into comics, tabletop rpgs, and other men.

Word.
And I'm an ex-Californian. Here's what I don't miss:
--smog
--gangs
--crowded schools
--graffiti everywhere
--empty fields full of trash
--police helicopters over my neighborhood
--having to compete with illegals for a min. wage job
--$750 to $1000 for a 1-bed apt
--mountain lions, coyotes, rattlesnakes

Not that I notice
only in escondido really
Check, even in the best school district in the county (and possible the lower half of the state) the budget issues have cost us some teachers.
occasional, but it depends on the community. more in Esco, less anywhere else.
Nope.
Not in my neighborhood, but once at a local ren faire, they were looking for a kidnap victim.
Only if you look for unskilled labor with small companies. The big ones can't risk the raids.
my last one was 925 because I opted for the better school district. I could have taken the 2 bedroom with a fireplace in escondildo for 675, but I didn't feel safe.
Coyotes and Rattlers in the open space a few blocks over, no mountain lions here, although when I lived in the Paso area I wasn't allowed to ride my bike because a neighbor had been going to free a wild turkey caught in a fence and a Cougar decided she was trying to steal his dinner. You just need to have a healthy respect for the animals in your area. I've known what to do when you spot a rattler since I was 6 and would walk the mile through the grass and barbed wire to my grandma's farm next door.

Andara Bledin
07-13-2009, 06:22 PM
I haven't experienced a bad quake since 89. I was 8 and mom didn't get home from work till about 10 that night because of the traffic. The electricity was out so I used candles, thus causing the only damage to our house due to the quake. You shouldn't place a candle beneath a glass shelf. I lived in Monterey at the time.

As apposed to tornadoes and hurricanes that happen every damn year.
No kidding,

My mom was talking with a woman in tornado alley who'd lost her house to one, and she made a comment bout it "not being California with all those earthquakes." This sentiment has always baffled the hell out of me. :shrug:

^-.-^

BusBus
07-13-2009, 06:59 PM
His response, was priceless- "if I miss my flight because of this, you'll be hearing from my mother"

:roll: That had me laughing! (Probably because I deal with these types on a regular basis). Ooooh no!!! Not your *mother*!!!!!!OMGZ!!!!11!!!



Why to live in California? As someone coming off a 5 year stint in Idaho, I got one word for you:

SNOW! I hate, despise, revile it! #1 reason we came back to Cali was no snow. Really, though, you have to have good cash flow to enjoy living in California. Beach house next year, baybay! :)



I was in Coeur D'Alene last April and it was too damn cold for me. Blech.


Owner of one of them...

Rapscallion

ZING! :lol:

Digitalpotato
07-13-2009, 11:18 PM
That guy...wow he must have been one exhausted person.

And I find it alright to live in Colorado. Boring as hell, and that's why all the gangsta wannabes come here.

Kinoo
07-15-2009, 08:33 AM
[QUOTE=RootedPhoenix;573209]JACARANDA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/jacaranda) TREES. SO FULL OF WIN.

Someday I will own one. Maybe even fifty. ALL THE BLOOMS WILL BE MINE! BWAHAHA!!!

*hushes* :D :angel:

QUOTE]
My home town... http://www.jacarandafestival.org.au/

smileyeagle1021
07-15-2009, 12:44 PM
No kidding,

My mom was talking with a woman in tornado alley who'd lost her house to one, and she made a comment bout it "not being California with all those earthquakes." This sentiment has always baffled the hell out of me. :shrug:

^-.-^

oh, and another interesting thing with that sentiment... people say that as if California is the only place that gets earthquakes, forgetting about Nevada and Utah which also get them... I mean hell, Nevada even gets some big ones, the only reason you never hear about them is because so few people live in Nevada and Utah. About a year ago Wells NV was damned near destroyed by a quake and I'm willing to bet almost none of y'all heard about it, because lets be honest, who the hell cares about Wells NV.

Then again, Utah truly is the suck, we get both earthquakes and tornadoes :(

and a completely unrelated note, but something I thought was interesting that I just remembered from my freshman year geology class, the reason why earthquakes are so prevalent in the western United States and why Colorado, Utah, Idaho, and Nevada have so much higher average elevations than the rest of the country is because there actually is a small tectonic plate under the North American plate in this area.

Pagan
07-16-2009, 03:44 PM
Then again, Utah truly is the suck, we get both earthquakes and tornadoes :(

So do we. Granted, the tornados are very few and far between (we did have a funnel cloud in the southern part of the state just recently) and the earthquakes are very low on the Richter scale, but we do have them.

Every few years or so in Las Cruces, we'll hear loud, and I mean loud, bangs. Enough to rattle doors. Nobody's ever been able to explain them. And no, it's nothing being done out at White Sands and they're certainly not sonic booms (We had the F-117 and now the F-22 at Holloman AFB). One of the theories is something to do with the plates.

and a completely unrelated note, but something I thought was interesting that I just remembered from my freshman year geology class, the reason why earthquakes are so prevalent in the western United States and why Colorado, Utah, Idaho, and Nevada have so much higher average elevations than the rest of the country is because there actually is a small tectonic plate under the North American plate in this area.

There's a reason why the Rio Grande runs where it does.

AccountingDrone
07-16-2009, 07:37 PM
Every few years or so in Las Cruces, we'll hear loud, and I mean loud, bangs. Enough to rattle doors. Nobody's ever been able to explain them. And no, it's nothing being done out at White Sands and they're certainly not sonic booms (We had the F-117 and now the F-22 at Holloman AFB). One of the theories is something to do with the plates.
.

Aren't there also mysterious lights also? And some mystery hum? And have you seen/heard them?

[I read Fortean Times and it is full of wierd stuff like that]

dalesys
07-16-2009, 08:25 PM
Then again, Utah truly is the suck, we get both earthquakes and tornadoes :(

Yeah, but the tornadoes are very rarely much more than dust devil size...

Except for the one in 1999 that destroyed a gay bar (The Sun), killed one man at an outdoor retailer's show, skipped Temple Square, and chewed up City Creek Park.

My dad had finished registering for the show and was 1 mile away when it hit.:eek:

cinema guy
07-16-2009, 09:33 PM
oh, and another interesting thing with that sentiment... people say that as if California is the only place that gets earthquakes,

Wasn't the New Madrid Earthquake the worst in US history? That was in the Mississippi valley and affected half a dozen states, non of which were California.

sms001
07-17-2009, 12:13 AM
Wasn't the New Madrid Earthquake the worst in US history?

Worst in area affected - maybe a million square miles? (Sorry - 8th grade state history was a looooooonnnnnng time ago :) ) If it pops these days though, it'll put Cali to shame - nothing in the area is quake proofed.

smileyeagle1021
07-17-2009, 12:33 AM
Except for the one in 1999 that destroyed a gay bar (The Sun), killed one man at an outdoor retailer's show, skipped Temple Square, and chewed up City Creek Park.


a fact that has been repeated so many times that it is starting to get urban legend status... like to the point where I've heard missionaries use that as proof that the church is true, because, you know, weird weather never happens :rolleyes:

Oh well, eventually the big quake that we've been promised for the last... how many years now... will hit and all of Salt Lake will be destroyed, we'll all die, and the debate will be over with :p

ExiledV20
07-17-2009, 01:02 AM
I never got that Mark Twain line about the coldest winter he ever spent was the summer he spent in San Francisco.....until I spent some time in San Francisco.

I get it. Oh, do I ever.

See, I always attributed it to the culture, not the weather. Just about every San Franciscan I've IRL known has always snobbed up at me.

However, in defense of the kindly SFers, I should note that I was interacting with people who seriously believed in the joke title of the "People's Republic of Berkeley", who deemed any other city in the world to be totally without culture (including London, Paris, and Rome, for example) and who all could not conceive of ever living outside of California. Living in the "slum" of Los Angeles was about the level they could tolerate.

Gee, kinda strange how I never kept in touch with 'em. :D

how about a gaymer club :)

Dude, for that you come to Atlanta, home of White Wolf, DragonCon, and more gaming/anime stuff than you can choke down. Frolicon might be of interest to you. ;)

Andara Bledin
07-17-2009, 01:32 AM
Every few years or so in Las Cruces, we'll hear loud, and I mean loud, bangs. Enough to rattle doors. Nobody's ever been able to explain them. And no, it's nothing being done out at White Sands and they're certainly not sonic booms (We had the F-117 and now the F-22 at Holloman AFB). One of the theories is something to do with the plates.
Hey, don't be too sure about that.

There was a while where there would be a string of seismic activity at just after 7am that would head from somewhere in the southwest US (I forget the actual state) and go southwest out to the ocean and back, and would happen like clockwork every Thursday morning for about 2 months. Turns out it was testing on some project that came out of top secret classification about a year later.

^-.-^

mikoyan29
07-17-2009, 03:01 AM
Every few years or so in Las Cruces, we'll hear loud, and I mean loud, bangs. Enough to rattle doors. Nobody's ever been able to explain them. And no, it's nothing being done out at White Sands and they're certainly not sonic booms (We had the F-117 and now the F-22 at Holloman AFB). One of the theories is something to do with the plates.

The F-22 can supercruise, which means it can go supersonic without afterburners.

Pagan
07-17-2009, 06:57 PM
Aren't there also mysterious lights also? And some mystery hum? And have you seen/heard them?

[I read Fortean Times and it is full of wierd stuff like that]

Lights? The closest that you could be thinking of are the Lubbock Lights (301 mi NE of Las Cruces) or the ones over Phoenix (319 mi west of Las Cruces) a few years ago.

The hum is the Taos Hum. Funny thing, the natives don't hear it. It's only newbies that have moved in. Last few times I've been there, I've listened for it and have never heard it.

Hey, don't be too sure about that.

There was a while where there would be a string of seismic activity at just after 7am that would head from somewhere in the southwest US (I forget the actual state) and go southwest out to the ocean and back, and would happen like clockwork every Thursday morning for about 2 months. Turns out it was testing on some project that came out of top secret classification about a year later.

^-.-^

Not around Las Cruces/southern NM.

The F-22 can supercruise, which means it can go supersonic without afterburners.

Yeah, but these aren't sonic booms. You'd have to hear it to get the difference. Believe me, with the presence of those planes and other testing that goes on, we know when it's a sonic boom. Plus, some of these were long before the Stealth or the Raptor, like the 70s.

Andara Bledin
07-17-2009, 08:08 PM
The hum is the Taos Hum. Funny thing, the natives don't hear it. It's only newbies that have moved in. Last few times I've been there, I've listened for it and have never heard it.
If it's a constant thing, it can actually cause you to lose that pitch after long enough.

One of my cars had a whine when I had the clutch pushed, and it annoyed the hell out of me, but my dad, who used to be a machinist, couldn't hear it at all.

^-.-^

AccountingDrone
07-17-2009, 09:30 PM
Lights? The closest that you could be thinking of are the Lubbock Lights (301 mi NE of Las Cruces) or the ones over Phoenix (319 mi west of Las Cruces) a few years ago.

The hum is the Taos Hum. Funny thing, the natives don't hear it. It's only newbies that have moved in. Last few times I've been there, I've listened for it and have never heard it.
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Bummer =) it would be interesting to see something odd ...

Pagan
07-17-2009, 11:51 PM
If it's a constant thing, it can actually cause you to lose that pitch after long enough.

Yeah, but I don't spend that much time in Taos. It's been years since I've been. And last time, I was actively listening to see if I heard anything....nada. And I've got extremely sensitive ears.

Bummer =) it would be interesting to see something odd ...

About the closest we get is if they're doing something over at McGregor Range on the other side of the Organ Mountains (just to the East of Las Cruces)....or if said mountains are on fire. http://media.photobucket.com/image/organ%20mountains%20fire/tanis1lionheart/Myspace%20Crap/Organ_Mountains_On_Fire.jpg