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Rena_Muffin
04-25-2011, 11:57 PM
Hello! So, I have an SC story that actually involves SCs I was dealing with! They're not as bad as some of the stories I've seen posted, but it's still kinda sucky and I think worth mentioning. So, let me begin the grand tale of Rena's hijinks at the anime convention.



The creepy guy

My friends and I had pitched and were sharing an artist alley table. It was a good idea, we all made a great profit and everything went well. At one point, my friends went off to the masquerade while I was left to watch the table (I don't mind this. I love talking to our customers and the artists that were near us were (for the most part) awesome.

Now, I tell this story first because out of all the stories I've collected, it's the most disgusting and I want to tell it to you now so you can use the others to cleanse your head. So, I'm manning the table by myself until my boyfriend's going to come by and check on me and this man shows up. He's the personification of every negative anime fan stereotype. Almost like fanboy from freakazoid, except less likable. He's overweight (only mentioned to give you a picture of the guy, not to bash on his weight) with a shirt that is stained so much it almost looks crusty and cannot cover his (impressive) stomach, a vacant look on his face, and greasy hair that probably could have fried a year's worth of french fries. Not to mention he smells, and it's impressive by my standards. I've gone to cons ever since I was 16, and he's beating most of the con funk I've been exposed to over the years.

He starts looking through my artwork and breathing, audibly. His facial expression doesn't change, and he just keeps breathing. I try to engage him in conversation, it's worked to draw in customers before, but he just keeps breathing and looking through my artwork. When he gets to the end, he flips to some pictures I have of Morringan from Darkstalkers and points at his and looks at me.

CG-Creepy guy
R-who else?
D-boyfriend (he's going to be important soon)

CG- *huuuuuuuuh* How much *huuuuuuuh*
R- (breathing through the mouth to avoid the smell) That print will be about six dollars. So, are you a Darkstalkers fan?
CG- *huuuuuuuuuuuh* (starts looking through the pictures again. People are walking around him and I can see a few of them holding their noses. I just want him to leave but he just keeps looking through my pictures. He looks through the binder about five times, looking up at me occasionally as I wish I had some support. Around the third time, boyfriend shows up and sits next to me to show off the idea he's got on a prop gun, oblivious to CG)
R-(watching the *millionth* customer walk by giving strange looks to CG) So sir, is there any piece you're interested in?
CG-*huuuuuuuh* (sees my price listing, which includes $5 commissions) you do commissions?
R- (apparaently, according to D, I got white in the face when he asked this and looked like I was going to be sick. In my head I'm thinking, "please don't ask for a commission. I already know you're going to ask for something involving beloved anime characters engaging in horrible sexual acts that go against every part of my moral fiber. And there will be tentacles, because it is anime that that is a requirement.") Yes sir, I do.
D-(springing into action when he sees his girlfriend nearly having a heart attack) She charges more if the picture is really detailed. She just drew hentai for one guy and it cost him fifty dollars.
CG-*huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh* (walks off)



The idiots

Boyfriend and I usually have an interesting time dealing with "normal" people when we're in cosplay (cosplay=costume play. We dress up as anime characters). These are like "sighting stories but worth mentioning). On the first day, before the Creepy guy affair.

As I am walking to the convention, supplies in hand, a car pulls up to me. I'm dressed rather skimpily, look up Lust from Full metal Alchemist, and the men in the car start saying some "nice comments my way."

I1-idiot 1
I2-idiot 2
R-Currently Lust

I1-*censored but just think about the typical sexual comments guys like this make*
I2-So baby, where you going? I think we can give you a lift.
I1-And I'm sure you'd give us one right back for the right price.
*cue laughter and me glaring at them as I try to walk faster, an impossible feat in the heels I have to wear for the costume*
I2-So, how much does a classy broad like you cost *He didn't really use the word broad but I'm a good girl who doesn't use the kind of language he was using.
R-(looking his way) Kindly leave me alone, now.
I1&2-(laughs, keeps up the laughter and launches more profane requests upon the exhausted Rena Muffin. Rena Muffin is getting angry.)
I1-Well, for that ass, I bet 50 dollars would cover it right baby?
*And cue Rena Muffin's submissive nature snapping and Rena's backbone growing in*
R-If you really want to know how much I charge, ask your mother. She and I had a "wonderful" time last night because unlike you, I know how to please a lady!

I ran away really fast after this so I didn't really get to see their reactions. They did look kinda shocked when I said this. My feet felt like they were going to fall off, the heels were far from forgiving. I did feel proud of myself for this though. Sadly, the thought going through my head when he made the 50 dollars comment was "hell no, if I was in that line of work I would be charging much more."



Details, Details, DETAILS!!!!

When I do a commission, I ask people for all the details. What pose they want characters in, outfits they're wearing, equipment they're using, everything, I am very anal retentive on making sure they get what they want. While I'm busy drawing a picture for a previous commission, a man comes up, asks for commission, and I take his information. All he says he wants is a picture of a certain character. He doesn't say what pose he wants her in, what he wants her wearing, etc. This leaves the details of the picture to my discretion.

Later, I have finished the commission and the buyer comes to pick it up. He looks the picture over, pays the price, and then explains that even though he likes the picture and it's very nice, he wanted the girl with a certain piece of equipment and wearing a certain outfit. For the love of god, I'M NOT A MIND READER GIVE ME THE FREAKING DETAILS DAMMIT!!!!!!!!! I was civil to him, and I got the money, but this pissed me off.

I'll post more stories later, if you guys want to know more about the con. I am sorry about the first story, but it was the creepiest thing that has happened to me at a convention.

ArcticChicken
04-26-2011, 01:05 AM
R-If you really want to know how much I charge, ask your mother. She and I had a "wonderful" time last night because unlike you, I know how to please a lady!

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha *gasp* hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaha *pantpant* *snicker*


Also, he must be buying some very cheap hookers if he thinks $50 is high class.

AnaKhouri
04-26-2011, 01:08 AM
I have run into the first guy a lot at cons. I don't see them as often the older I get ;)

I don't usually get creepy dudes while in cosplay, just because I tend to cosplay older/more obscure/modestly dressed characters (not that dressing in skimpy cosplay means you deserve to get creeped on!). The weirdest thing that ever happened was waaaaay back in the day. I was cosplaying a character from an anime that was popular at the time. A teenage girl came up and starting talking about the series, and talked, and talked, and somehow her story became about how she was having sex with her boyfriend and called him an anime character's name (and he was fine with it). I was just like, "Right, I have to take this call now. See you around."

Rena_Muffin
04-26-2011, 01:26 AM
A teenage girl came up and starting talking about the series, and talked, and talked, and somehow her story became about how she was having sex with her boyfriend and called him an anime character's name (and he was fine with it).

Creepy....The worst I ever got was when people walk up to me and tell me all the problems they're having. They're pretty annoying when you get them frequently.

MoonCat
04-26-2011, 01:55 AM
Damn, creepiest thing that ever happened to me at a con was some kid of about 17 hitting on me (I was in my 30's...I look younger but hell, I didn't think I looked that young). At least he was clean. Your Creepy Guy was much creepier.

And the bozos in the car....were brainless idiots.

bhskittykatt
04-26-2011, 04:17 AM
R-If you really want to know how much I charge, ask your mother. She and I had a "wonderful" time last night because unlike you, I know how to please a lady!



aaaaaaaaaand PWNED! :lol: Really, I need to remember this one, in case I ever need to use it!

lobo94
04-26-2011, 05:06 AM
Some people really need to be sacrificed to Cthulhu.

vang
04-26-2011, 05:48 AM
D-(springing into action when he sees his girlfriend nearly having a heart attack) She charges more if the picture is really detailed. She just drew hentai for one guy and it cost him fifty dollars.
CG-*huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh* (walks off)


Good, good D. I mean, you always could have just told the guy no after he described what he wanted... but then you'd have had to have heard what he wanted. :)


I1-Well, for that ass, I bet 50 dollars would cover it right baby?
*And cue Rena Muffin's submissive nature snapping and Rena's backbone growing in*
R-If you really want to know how much I charge, ask your mother. She and I had a "wonderful" time last night because unlike you, I know how to please a lady!


"Wait, you're saying..." "Yes, I did a commission for your mother... and she LOVED it!"


Details, Details, DETAILS!!!!

When I do a commission, I ask people for all the details. What pose they want characters in, outfits they're wearing, equipment they're using, everything, I am very anal retentive on making sure they get what they want.

It takes extra work to get things to present to an artist, but if the choice is between trying to describe to an artist in a crowded, noisy room the details of how someone is posed and what they're wearing and their expression (and hoping I don't forget something while being jostled by everyone else around), or spending a half-hour or so browsing around the web and snapping up some reference images and decent descriptive text... Well, I like my art, and I know which one gets me better pictures. I do go overboard obsessive sometimes, but it's really not that hard to do a little searching, and the results are *so* much worth it, usually.

Kogarashi
04-26-2011, 06:08 AM
Your Creepy Guy beats out anyone I've had to deal with so far, by a long shot. For the guys in the car, my sympathies. I just posted about a pair of creepers who hit on me at recent conventions, and I was in an almost completely concealing costume!

You know, I really really really love it when customers will actually give me reference for the characters they want drawn. I've had to turn some people away because they just assumed I've seen Popular Anime when I haven't (and even if I had, I'm awful at drawing detailed characters from memory unless they're my own characters, thank you). I also had one guy who commissioned me a few years ago at a con for "something comedy, and female." That was the entirety of his guidelines. So my tablemate, my husband, and I came up with a concept for a female over-the-top videogame fighter that we thought was funny. Cue disappointed look from the customer when he picked it up later (he paid and didn't say anything, but he didn't compliment it and barely thanked me, so I could tell it wasn't quite what he had in mind).

Mytical
04-26-2011, 07:01 AM
Even though I love these stories, I feel sorry for the posters because of them. Just remember, if you ever visit ohio for some sort of Anime and need a Guard Gargoyle to look me up. Will work for food (Pizza and pop...mmmmm).

ArcticChicken
04-26-2011, 02:43 PM
Guard Gargoyle

:ot:

It took me until just now to realize you're using two words there. I always read it as Guard-Goyle.

Null Requiem
04-26-2011, 03:22 PM
Convention stories!! Yay!!

...

... that reminds me of something, I'll have to post it later in a different section.

Sapphire Silk
04-26-2011, 03:52 PM
He's the personification of every negative anime fan stereotype. Almost like fanboy from freakazoid, except less likable. He's overweight (only mentioned to give you a picture of the guy, not to bash on his weight) with a shirt that is stained so much it almost looks crusty and cannot cover his (impressive) stomach, a vacant look on his face, and greasy hair that probably could have fried a year's worth of french fries. Not to mention he smells, and it's impressive by my standards. I've gone to cons ever since I was 16, and he's beating most of the con funk I've been exposed to over the years.

Reminds me of many of the gaming geeks I'd see at Gen Con or Dun Dra Con. Overweight guys who always dressed in black with fedoras, had about a week's worth of beard, carried all the gaming stuff in a brief case with a 2 liter of Coke and a bag or Doritos . . . and who you could smell coming from two floors away. Ugh. :puke:


D-(springing into action when he sees his girlfriend nearly having a heart attack) She charges more if the picture is really detailed. She just drew hentai for one guy and it cost him fifty dollars.
CG-*huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh* (walks off)

Good job, boyfriend! :highfive: Telling 'em no just makes them want to argue with you. Charging more than they can afford sends 'em packing.




I1-Well, for that ass, I bet 50 dollars would cover it right baby?
*And cue Rena Muffin's submissive nature snapping and Rena's backbone growing in*
R-If you really want to know how much I charge, ask your mother. She and I had a "wonderful" time last night because unlike you, I know how to please a lady!

Yet more awesome pwnage! Well done!


Details, Details, DETAILS!!!!

When I do a commission, I ask people for all the details. What pose they want characters in, outfits they're wearing, equipment they're using, everything,

I had the joy of working with an artist like you when I was still writing for the gaming industry. The editor assigned an artist to do artwork related to my part of a book. She contacted me and asked me for all kinds of descriptive information about what a certain character (who was key to the story) looked like. She did a great job with the art . . . I was thrilled.

Rena_Muffin
04-26-2011, 05:07 PM
Even though I love these stories, I feel sorry for the posters because of them. Just remember, if you ever visit ohio for some sort of Anime and need a Guard Gargoyle to look me up. Will work for food (Pizza and pop...mmmmm).

I may take you up on this, I'm a descent cook. (I think, I've gotten no complaints so far.)

NateTheChops
04-26-2011, 05:10 PM
The creepiest person I got at my tarot table was a scragilly old woman who reeked of liquor asking me to "do her for free."

Scary, which is how I'd define the "gentlemen" in the car, would have to be the SOB who sat at my table and shouted at me about he didn't believe in what I did and demand I read him to "prove" it.

Yeah. And people were surprised that I stopped reading in Burlington.

AnaKhouri
04-26-2011, 06:49 PM
I don't think it works so well at anime cons, but at general sf/fantasy cons, if someone is bothering you, all you have to do is loudly ask them to leave you alone. And the problem will be solved. Because at those kind of cons, every single man there wants to be a hero, and will come to your rescue if you appear to be in distress. ;)

Comechatcha
04-26-2011, 07:26 PM
The timing makes me suspicious that you were at a convention where the theme is centered around pretty pink and white flowers that fall from trees. Correct?

Either way, I hate those kinds of people at cons. I was dressed up in a white gown most of the weekend of the aforementioned con, and I kept getting people asking to 'kiss the bride' whenever I went off con grounds. Misunderstands are fine, I just thanked the folk who told me congratulations and moved on, but creepers are detestable.

Elspeth
04-26-2011, 07:38 PM
That con was this last weekend!?!?!?! Dang it. I was going to try and make that one this year. Never made it through the line to get in last year (left after 3.5 hours)

Saw some interesting types last time we went to Comic Con.

HorrorFrogPrincess
04-26-2011, 09:09 PM
Ew ew ew, creepy con creeps! I've been cat called and asked "how much" while walking home in Goth Lolita.

That said, I really should get back on the con circuit...

TheRabbi
04-26-2011, 09:58 PM
Oh, every time I hear a con horror story, I feel bad for the people involved.

But I've seen the guy from the first story all over the place... usually I can steer clear of him, but occasionally my security-ly duties force me to have to come in contact with him. That makes me sad.

Are you coming to Anime Central? And if you are, what's your artist table going to be called? (PM me if you don't want it on the boards.) I'll stop by and say hi during my rounds.

Flying Grype
04-26-2011, 10:42 PM
Both of the conventions I regularly attend (general s/f) have a reminder in the program book that people need to keep themselves clean. ;)

There was a lovely article on the internet years ago about a character called Cat Piss Man. I can't find the article, sadly, but the gist of it was that if you run a comic shop, and this stinky, breathe-in-your-face, leer-at-female-employees character is in your shop browsing your comics and not spending money, you have every right to make him leave. He's ruining your business by driving off other customers, and you don't have to coddle him and accept his behaviour.

If I had an artist's alley table and had someone like that hovering over me, I'd be asking him to leave and then asking security for help.

MelodiousBubbles
04-27-2011, 12:33 AM
>.> I may not be the first to ask this, but were you perhaps... At Anime Boston this past weekend? Or was there another con further west this past weekend?

MoonCat
04-27-2011, 12:44 AM
The worst thing is that people like that play in to the stereotypes of all fantasy/SF/anime/comics/whatever fans being dirty, socially clueless geeks who live in their mothers' basements. I've met some wonderful people at cons.

Hawaiian Eskimo
04-27-2011, 02:18 AM
Found your article on Cat Piss Man. It's the 4th post down: http://forum.rpg.net/archive/index.php/t-36461.html

I love how these guys make everyone else who likes that sort of thing look like lifeless nerds. I know a lot of really awesome people who are into anime, gaming, sci-fi, and such.

mikoyan29
04-27-2011, 02:46 AM
Wow. I know a couple people like that.

ArcticChicken
04-27-2011, 04:00 AM
The comic shop I used to go to (rather infrequently) had several cat piss men, luckily I was almost never there at the same time. I can't remember what happened to the first one, or the set of brothers, but one of them used to come in and sit around reading comics. The owner got sick of this and told him that he couldn't read the comics anymore until he paid for them. So he brought his own. This rather irritated the owner, so he enlisted the help of one of the regulars to get rid of the guy. The regular walked in front of CPM, pulled his shorts halfway down and sat down to read a book. CPM never came back.

Kogarashi
04-27-2011, 05:37 AM
>.> I may not be the first to ask this, but were you perhaps... At Anime Boston this past weekend? Or was there another con further west this past weekend?

Judging from Rena's location, I'd hazard to guess that she was at the other big con happening this past weekend, on the other end of the country. The one named after cherry blossoms.

MelodiousBubbles
04-27-2011, 01:47 PM
Judging from Rena's location, I'd hazard to guess that she was at the other big con happening this past weekend, on the other end of the country. The one named after cherry blossoms.

Not too up to date on cons held on the West coast, and I've met vendors and artists' alley tables from across the states, so it wouldn't surprise me either way :)

Sapphire Silk
04-27-2011, 02:21 PM
The comic shop I used to go to (rather infrequently) had several cat piss men, luckily I was almost never there at the same time. I can't remember what happened to the first one, or the set of brothers, but one of them used to come in and sit around reading comics. The owner got sick of this and told him that he couldn't read the comics anymore until he paid for them. So he brought his own. This rather irritated the owner, so he enlisted the help of one of the regulars to get rid of the guy. The regular walked in front of CPM, pulled his shorts halfway down and sat down to read a book. CPM never came back.

Awesome pwnage.

I've quit buying comics because the local comic store has CPM like attributes. Several of the employees are comic snobs (the owner's not a bad guy though). The place is worn down and smells bad, and is unwelcoming to all but the regulars who prowl the place.

There's a new store in another town that's actually closer . . . I've got to get myself over there as I do miss buying comics.

Rena_Muffin
04-27-2011, 05:46 PM
The timing makes me suspicious that you were at a convention where the theme is centered around pretty pink and white flowers that fall from trees. Correct?


Good sir, you probably are very correct in your assumption because yes, it is centered around these pretty pink/white flowers you described.

protege
04-27-2011, 06:03 PM
CPM sounds like one of the guys that would hang out at the hobby shop. By "hang out," he'd always be in there, no matter how early, or how late. This guy, apparently hadn't showed since 1958, was usually wearing dirty, beat-up clothing, and was a bit of a Pennsylvania RR steam fanatic. He sure knew his locomotives, and occasionally would pester other customers about them. He had a *fit* when I walked in with a Penn Central (PRR's corporate successor) pin on my coat once, and yes, I did it just to piss him off :devil: Seriously though, he could have been a nice guy, if he wasn't so dirty, smelly, and annoying.

Anyway, he was exactly what the OP described--he fit the negative hobbyist stereotype to a T. The only reason he was allowed in the shop so long, is because the owner felt sorry for him. That all changed when the owner had a stroke a few years back, and had to retire. Seems the owner's son had enough of the guy, and told him to either buy something, or GTFO. Even that wasn't enough--he'd simply wait until the son wasn't at the register. If he got caught, he'd buy something cheap, and leave. That went on until the shop moved...and CPM's bus route didn't go there :lol:

Argabarga
04-27-2011, 07:09 PM
Wow, railfan rage..... hobbyist rage is the most intense, and at the same time, the most puzzling

Ya know, my Grandpa used to work for the Reading, and I didn't harbor any hate of Conrail for the fact they kinda picked up the pieces when that line went under...

Andara Bledin
05-02-2011, 05:13 PM
We used to have a couple of CPMs at the gaming convention I attend thrice annually, but they've mostly disappeared. The demographics have trended a lot wider and more family-attended than they did even just a decade ago, and the CPMs are no longer tolerated.

Although, now that we're a little bigger and slightly more "mainstream," we seem to be attracting the inappropriate cosplayers. Such as the Wonder Woman from last time who had half of her ass hanging out of her booty shorts. >_< At least she was in good shape...

CPMs and their ilk are also a bit of why I now buy my comics online. I may have to put my order in a month in advance, but I get 30% off of nearly everything, so it more than pays for the shipping. :)

^-.-^

protege
05-02-2011, 07:07 PM
Wow, railfan rage..... hobbyist rage is the most intense, and at the same time, the most puzzling.

You'd be surprised how pissed some of those guys get. They blame PC, and the resulting bankruptcy for the downfall of the predecessor lines. Never mind that many of the things those lines were doing--lack of maintenance, questionable investments, government interference regarding crew rules, passenger service and shipping rates--actually helped bring about Penn Central in the first place :rolleyes: Nope, PC (which went bankrupt in '70, and folded into Conrail in '76) itself was to blame for everything that went on. Sorry, but no.

People like that are *exactly* why I refuse to join the PRR historical society. From what I understand, it's a good organization, but many of the members are raging fanboys about the line. They won't listen to facts--instead, they look through rose-tinted glasses, and ignore everything else that was going on at the time. Also, even though PC was the biggest corporate bankruptcy at the time, they forget about a few others-- Rock Island (1980) and Milwaukee (1977)...both of which had serious problems, and were eventually shut down or taken over. Yet, PC gets most of the hatred. I don't get that.