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greensinestro
01-19-2014, 02:14 PM
I hate it when it's time to take your car in for maintenance, not only because you fret what the mechanic is going to say, but also because of the type of patrons that go there. It happens at any of them, whether it's Good Year, Firestone, or Tire Kingdom.

In my case, it was The Tire Choice. Now, I get usually good service there, and do feel like they've been up front on each visit there. But, what I hate are the patrons that go there, and literally guard the front entrance, or better yet, intimidate the employees inside to let them in a few minutes before opening.

I pulled in about fifteen minutes before opening, when I saw this older guy, looked to be in his mid sixties, get out of his car with this angry look on his face. The building has three customer entrances, and he first went to one, banged on the doors with his fists, pulled on both door handles without successfully breaking them open, then went to the second front entrance, banged on that door, used both hands to try prying open these doors, and finally went to the side entrance where someone let him in. I guess the employees were afraid this guy would knock the building down unless they let him in, before opening time, we might add.

I waited my turn, and went inside at the time they normally open. My wait was not that long at all, maybe five minutes at the most. I just can't understand people like this anyway. It's not as if this type of behavior is going to get your car fixed any quicker than if you waited like everyone else does.

Argabarga
01-19-2014, 02:20 PM
TIRE KINGDOM, presented by Mutual of Omaha :lol:

Sorry, my brain just works that way.



And I've found that a pretty big part of the over 60 part of the population is just that ornery..... to everyone and everything.

protege
01-19-2014, 03:29 PM
I waited my turn, and went inside at the time they normally open. My wait was not that long at all, maybe five minutes at the most. I just can't understand people like this anyway. It's not as if this type of behavior is going to get your car fixed any quicker than if you waited like everyone else does.

A lot of them are retired and have nothing better to do.

But, my favorite type of idiot at the mechanic...is the one that doesn't bother maintaining his vehicle, and then throws a fit because it's going to cost a *lot* of money to get it through state inspection. Apparently, it's the mechanic's fault that their 15-year-old shitbox has its exhaust held together with tape, and has holes in the floor big enough to swallow elephants :rolleyes:

greensinestro
01-19-2014, 04:08 PM
I like that as well. Or how about when they say "how did my car get like that?" when they're the only one that drives it.

In Florida, inspection stations were griped out of existence years ago by these same people.

Argabarga
01-19-2014, 04:13 PM
Far worse is the guy who disputes every single thing the mechanic finds wrong with the car, they know EXACTLY what it needs, and are ever vigilant that they're being taken advantage of, yet, somehow unable to use any of that knowledge to actually fix/diagnose it themselves.


Fortunately, I live in an inspection state, so there's objective criteria for when the car is unsafe "X or less tread on tires" " x or less inches left on brake pad" "light inoperable" Yeah, there's a few subjectives "Must not have excessive play" but, point is, they'll argue that their brakes are JUST FINE despite the fact the outer surface of the rotor has worn away and the caliper is now chewing on the cooling vanes inside, evident by the rusty brown streak of munched-up metal dust stuck to the side of the car like a bow wave....

Nope, the mechanic is crooked and selling me unessicarry repairs! I'll call the papers! I'll call the BBB! I'll call my senator!

yeah, you'll also be calling a tow truck, someone ELSE'S tow truck because this car ain't safe and if you decline the work, we are NOT letting it leave here under it's own power and we certainly not going to tow it since you spent the last 20 minutes dressing us down in every way possible....

Aethian
01-19-2014, 05:53 PM
I WOSH Michigan had inspections then maybe some of these cars that are held together by duct tape would go away. But at the same time I don't have quite enough saved yet to get Mom a newer car then the poj (paid off jalopy) she has. Catch 22 on my desire.

protege
01-19-2014, 07:58 PM
The only time I've ever disagreed with a mechanic...was when one wanted to sell me an "automatic transmission service..." and I drive a five-speed. Sorry, but you're not putting ATF in there, unless you want to spend a couple grand rebuilding my transmission! Picked up a few quarts of gear oil, and did it myself.

EvilEmpryss
01-19-2014, 10:02 PM
I live in a state with annual inspections -- you cannot get your registration renewed unless your car passes it -- but we still have oil-leaking, black-cloud-puffing, engine-knocking, busted-headlight-and shattered-windshield-having POSes all over the road. I want to know what station these people go to in order to get their cars past inspection so they can be put out of business.

Problem is that my state also charges property tax on vehicles (above and beyond the registration and gas taxes) and the tax is based on the value of the car. That means people who are already having a tough time with finances cannot afford to buy a new (or even newer) car because they wouldn't be able to pay for the annual taxes so they keep that clunker running as long as possible. Dangerous and polluting vehicles they can't afford to repair so I'm sure that they're griping over whether or not something is a "required" repair.

As for the old people, well, they've only got so much life left before they croak, so either they do everything in a hurry or they drag their feet, in no rush to get to their Final Destination. :)

Signmaker
01-19-2014, 10:30 PM
Back when I spun wrenches, the 5-before-opening riot squad of octogenarians was a common sight. We were lazy, deadbeat whippersnappers because we only opened at 7am. 7! Well that was practically NOON in their eyes. Nevermind that I had an hour commute to the shop, and had only left at 9 the previous night to get a rush job done. Nevermind that it had snowed a foot overnight, and the backroads used to get me from the highway to the shop had not been graced by PennDOT's presence. They'd be there, glaring at me and the service writer as we rolled into the parking lot like a couple of lazy bums at 6:45.

To top it off, we could never get away with inspection repair authorization shortcuts with them, like we could "normal" customers. What that means is if your car needs something trivial, maybe a tag light or wiper blade, we'd go ahead and replace it, and start the inspection paperwork, since chances are you wouldnt decline a <$10 repair. Not them. $1.50 for a bulb they can buy at the NAPA 6 miles away for $0.99 and spend an hour figuring out how to install themselves? You're ripping me off!

Arga, down to the cooling fins? Damn, that beats mine. Late model Pathfinder, CC of brake noise. Found the rear disc brakes no longer had pads. Not that they were down to the backing plate, those were gone too. It was caliper piston cup vs. rotor, but the rotor was winning. But my best general cluster-f was a Probe that had some weird nylon-devouring bacteria in the wiring harness. Yanno the rat's nest of wiring that lives under the engine compartment fuse block? All the wires were fine, except that none of them had a shred of insulation left, on any of them. Best I could find was some multicolored powder and flakes piled up underneath. All through the underhood wiring harness, any wire you could expose just had it's insulation crumble and fall off as soon as you moved it. Was wild.

mhkohne
01-19-2014, 10:46 PM
But my best general cluster-f was a Probe that had some weird nylon-devouring bacteria in the wiring harness. Yanno the rat's nest of wiring that lives under the engine compartment fuse block? All the wires were fine, except that none of them had a shred of insulation left, on any of them. Best I could find was some multicolored powder and flakes piled up underneath. All through the underhood wiring harness, any wire you could expose just had it's insulation crumble and fall off as soon as you moved it. Was wild.

Ever figure out what it was? I know nothing, but I'd guess either excessive heat somehow (butnyou'd think thatnwould leave other evidance), or use of highly inappropriate chemicals for cleaning. Seriously wierd.

Argabarga
01-20-2014, 12:42 AM
Arga, down to the cooling fins? Damn, that beats mine. Late model Pathfinder, CC of brake noise. Found the rear disc brakes no longer had pads. Not that they were down to the backing plate, those were gone too. It was caliper piston cup vs. rotor, but the rotor was winning. But my best general cluster-f was a Probe that had some weird nylon-devouring bacteria in the wiring harness. Yanno the rat's nest of wiring that lives under the engine compartment fuse block? All the wires were fine, except that none of them had a shred of insulation left, on any of them. Best I could find was some multicolored powder and flakes piled up underneath. All through the underhood wiring harness, any wire you could expose just had it's insulation crumble and fall off as soon as you moved it. Was wild.

To be fair, he was a recent transplant to the Keystone state, from a state that didn't have inspections. (Car had NH plates, yeah, "Live Free or Die" alright, more like "Live Free and Die if you stop in front of me!" har har har! :lol:) So, well, I'm sure you were no stranger to people being told for the first time in their lives that it was not hunky-dory that their car had no metal left below the door sills and their only realistic option at this point was to put the $200 scrap value of their current car towards another one.

I've lost track of the number of dead cars I've towed off freeway medians here in such a general state of disrepair that I wondered HOW they were passing inspection, till I walked around the back and saw OH/NY/NJ plates. Then it all makes sense. The owners are always flabbergast that per PSI regs, I could fail them on sight only for the rust holes, let alone what condition the brakes/suspension were probably in.

And Mr. Cooling Vanes? That's the SECOND TIME I've seen someone do that, third if you count pictures another car guy sent me of the condition of HIS cars rotors when he bought it from the previous owner.

otakuneko
01-20-2014, 01:59 AM
Arga, down to the cooling fins? Damn, that beats mine. Late model Pathfinder, CC of brake noise. Found the rear disc brakes no longer had pads. Not that they were down to the backing plate, those were gone too. It was caliper piston cup vs. rotor, but the rotor was winning. But my best general cluster-f was a Probe that had some weird nylon-devouring bacteria in the wiring harness. Yanno the rat's nest of wiring that lives under the engine compartment fuse block? All the wires were fine, except that none of them had a shred of insulation left, on any of them. Best I could find was some multicolored powder and flakes piled up underneath. All through the underhood wiring harness, any wire you could expose just had it's insulation crumble and fall off as soon as you moved it. Was wild.

That'd be the bacteria that makes nylonase -- Flavobacterium (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nylon-eating_bacteria).

I know about it because I happen to like watching creationism-debunking videos on youtube (creatards say the darndest things :lol:), in which nylon-eating bacteria often shows up as proof of beneficial mutations.

bhskittykatt
01-20-2014, 02:15 AM
Arga, down to the cooling fins? Damn, that beats mine. Late model Pathfinder, CC of brake noise. Found the rear disc brakes no longer had pads. Not that they were down to the backing plate, those were gone too. It was caliper piston cup vs. rotor, but the rotor was winning.

We bought a Datsun that had no brakes left. Literally, the physical brake pedals and brake lines were about the only things that weren't replaced after we were through with it (can you tell we live in a state with no inspections?). All four drums were resurfaced, new shoes installed, and had to get a new master cylinder. We actually drove that thing a few miles home, and then later drove it to the mechanic. Hubby was following me there (we left early in the morning when there was no traffic). We hit a red light on a downhill. He was half a block behind me, and he still had to swerve to avoid hitting me. Of course, we didn't let the brakes get that bad; the guy we bought it from did though. I don't know why we bought it other than Hubs wanted a truck and that one was really, really cheap. (There was no way this truck would pass inspection in any state that had them. Not to worry, though; it has since been scrapped.)

LillFilly
01-20-2014, 03:17 AM
You just described EVERY mall walker that attempted to get into my mall before opening hours! Banging on doors, hitting windows, trying to sneak in the side doors with the cleaning crew!

retro
01-20-2014, 02:54 PM
Not a SC experience but this reminded me of a time when I worked in retail. We were getting talking Teletubbies dolls in and they were that Christmas's hot property so as a result we were getting limited amounts of stocks in. I didn't even work in the toy department of our shop but I did work in our news section so I had to be there early to make sure the newspapers/magazines were on sale before the store opened.

We'd get the deliveries in during the day on certain weekdays and we'd then know how many of the items we'd have to sell but to keep it fair on everyone we wouldn't put them on sale at that point. Although if someone asked about a delivery (our huge delivery truck was hard to miss after all), we'd say it was still being checked.

Because I caught a bus into work, I was usually there before the managers (I would even start checking off the delivery outside while I waited), I was always given the 'coupons' to give to the customers already waiting and every morning after a delivery they would be there queuing up at the door without fail. To be fair, they were never pushy, stroppy or tried to get in when I went inside, even if they didn't get a coupon that morning and would take their coupon (one per customer) before heading to a local cafe for a cup of coffee before returning later in the morning to pick up the item. Even if by some fluke I had coupons left over, the rest of the stock in that delivery would be gone within the first ten minutes of the shop being open.

The only SCs were the ones we dealt with later in the day or over the phone who would never wait for deliveries but wanted them NOW!

It was a fun time of year because I used to love walking up to the shop with the coupons in my pocket and ask them if they wanted a Tinky Winky or a Dipsy. Why I was never accosted on the bus or mugged on the way into work I don't know...

ADeMartino
01-20-2014, 03:18 PM
The only time I've ever disagreed with a mechanic...was when one wanted to sell me an "automatic transmission service..." and I drive a five-speed. Sorry, but you're not putting ATF in there, unless you want to spend a couple grand rebuilding my transmission! Picked up a few quarts of gear oil, and did it myself.

Just a note here, but as odd as it may seem, a lot of late-model manual transmissions DO use ATF. Nonetheless, an 'automatic transmission service' would be inappropriate, but a lube change in a manual transmission, even using ATF, would be simply a 'transmission service'. Gear oil in a manual transmission built to use ATF probably won't hurt anything, though shifts may be difficult when the trans is cold and fuel economy may suffer slightly.

Catwoman2965
01-20-2014, 04:06 PM
My mechanic is awesome, but as I will take it in, and wait for my oil change, I’ve heard some doozies from his wife (who runs the office end of things) and heard her take calls! I’m a firm believer in “you get what you pay for” and have heard enough horror stories about the quickie change places that I don’t mind paying a bit more for my oil changes, and such.

I’m also amazed at people who won’t put $$ into regular, simple, maintenance, and then scream bloody murder when something major happens to their car, as a result of their slackness, and complain its “too much” I thankfully have a newer, much more reliable car, so my repairs, for now anywya, will be limited to oil changes and the like.

The best though, was my own good friend’s husband. BG: he’s cheaper than cheap, to the point of being irrational and unreasonable about spending money. She had a POS 14 or 15 year old Saturn, which had been through TWO major accidents, and had the tranny replaced. He decreed they would NOT be replacing it until they could pay CASH. For a new car, not used, as he has never, and no one in his family, has EVER EVER EVER had a car loan. They always pay CASH. End BG

So they’re close to being able to afford a low end Honda or Toyota, think Yaris or Fit, paying cash. Nothing wrong with them, but that was all he was willing to shell out for. In the meantime, POS car needed new tires, so they spent $400 on those (which I thought was stupid), and it was having issues starting. I had previously referred them to my mechanic, who is awesome. So car refused to start on 3 different occasions. Mechanic didn’t want to replace parts when the computer wasn’t saying that was the issue. Third time around, it’s the starter. So they spend the $$ and replace it. Next day, the tranny goes. Mind you, the car had close to 175K on it, and was old. While I would have been really irked I’d spent all that money on my POS car (been there, done that, never again), I don’t think I would have thought the two had any connection whatsoever. I would have chalked it up to the fact the car was old, and on its deathbead already.

Not him. He went to the mechanic, and screamed and yelled, and threw a tantrum worthy of a two year old, how they screwed up his car, and he was going to a. discredit him (no friends so not happening) b. sue (again, too cheap to pay the $$ to do so) and c. dispute the cc charge for the repair (no dice as it was HER card). I was so angry as I had referred them to the mechanic. Who thankfully DID NOT hold it against me, but told me they had never ever had a customer throw such an epic fit. Which is why in spite of him being so awesome, I will never send anyone to him again, for fear of this happening again.

ADeMartino
01-20-2014, 04:49 PM
He decreed they would NOT be replacing it until they could pay CASH. For a new car, not used, as he has never, and no one in his family, has EVER EVER EVER had a car loan. They always pay CASH. End BG


He's going to be hating that instant depreciation then. Drive a new car off the lot, automatically deduct up to three grand from the car's value - even more in higher-end models. Just like that. Poof.

A two-or-three year old model with an intact factory warranty is usually a MUCH better buy - and easier to purchase with cash if you don't want a loan.

protege
01-20-2014, 05:55 PM
He's going to be hating that instant depreciation then. Drive a new car off the lot, automatically deduct up to three grand from the car's value - even more in higher-end models. Just like that. Poof..

But, if you're going to keep the car a long time, like I do, it's simply another expense. By the time I get rid of my vehicles, they're usually in pretty bad shape...and I've got my money's worth out of them ;)

Back to lack of maintenance. For years, my dad never spent any money on the family cars--he didn't believe in general maintenance, other than oil changes. If the cars did need repairs, instead of going to a dealer or specialist, he'd find the cheapest mechanic he could find--usually the one with cars sitting outside that had been there for years. Sure, he'd get the car fixed, but again, you get what you pay for.

Nearly all of his cars were heaps. Either they were bought cheaply, or he didn't bother maintaining them. I can understand money being tight. But, this went far beyond that. Some of them, like the '79 Volvo sedan, shouldn't have been on the road. That thing had a huge crack in the windshield, an exhaust held together with duct tape and wire, and a floor made from cardboard and stop signs. Plus, the emissions from that thing would have withered a rainforest at 20 paces.

What always bugged me, is that he'd go on about how a lot of things in the manuals were "a scam." So, he wouldn't bother with them. He'd spend *more* on them either by having it done multiple times, or because lack of spending caused more serious repairs...than doing it right the first time would have cost!

MoonCat
01-20-2014, 10:11 PM
Wait, NY? I live in NYS. My sister had to junk her 20 year old car because it would not pass inspection and would have cost too much to fix.

Also, my brother once got a ticket because of an expired inspection sticker (cop only saw it because he was writing someone else a ticket and my brother's car was stopped at the red light, right behind the cop). Cars definitely have to pass inspection here.

otakuneko
01-20-2014, 10:34 PM
How in blue blazes do you spend $400 on tires for a 15 year old Saturn? Especially when you're a tightwad?

Yeah, that's what I would've said to them alright. I used to have a 93 or 94 SL2. Most I ever spent per tire was something like 30-45 bucks. And this was back in 2005-2007. Even for the Impala I got little later, I still only spent like 55-60 bucks per tire at most, so a full set would've only been 300ish after shop fees. Not that I ever replaced all four at once. Ain't anyone heard of rotating? I did that fairly often, since the Impala had an alignment issue I never did fix... I recently replaced the Impala with a zippy little Impreza (ahem.. the uh... regular one... WRX costs over 10 grand more, and uh... I never learned to drive a stick... :ashamed:). Love it. Sometimes though, I miss those 30 extra horses the Impala had...but I sure won't miss the gas bills, or the repair bills I knew were coming soon.

Argabarga
01-20-2014, 11:51 PM
What always bugged me, is that he'd go on about how a lot of things in the manuals were "a scam." So, he wouldn't bother with them. He'd spend *more* on them either by having it done multiple times, or because lack of spending caused more serious repairs...than doing it right the first time would have cost!

Yeah, that's the kind of guy I was trying to describe. Mr. YOU'RE OUT TO GET ME FOR NO REASON! Every, single THING is a scam! The way these "mechanics" claim your car needs fluids, and tires, and brake pads, and belts and on and on and on! It's like they expect us to believe these things just magically WEAR OUT! So what if there's enough mileage on the odometer to circumnavigate the Earth 5 times.... I don't really DRIVE IT ANYWHERE! JUST TO WORK AND BACK! THERE'S NO REASON it needs stuff! And, He's so proud he saved the .50 cents turning down that unneeded repair on that bolt.... so what if the bolt fell out, followed by all the oil it was holding in, leaving him now in need of a new MOTOR at $5,000, it's the principle of the thing!

And that's about where he stands a good chance of mutating into mister instant-expert. Sure, they don't know anything about cars or mechanicals, but, they know it didn't have a blown motor yesterday! And it does today! The day after you guys replaced a burnt out taillight bulb.... isn't that a little bit CONVENIENT???? So, since you touched it last, YOU DID IT! I'll sue! SUE SUE SUE SUE.....


Ugh, I knew at least one person who went through life that way about EVERYTHING.

Spent the absolute minimum they conceivably could on EVERY consumer good from frozen pizzas to tennis shoes, and then bitched and moaned about the horrid low quality because he "shouldn't have to" pay MORE to get MORE. :rolleyes:

Catwoman2965
01-21-2014, 12:47 PM
He's going to be hating that instant depreciation then. Drive a new car off the lot, automatically deduct up to three grand from the car's value - even more in higher-end models. Just like that. Poof.

A two-or-three year old model with an intact factory warranty is usually a MUCH better buy - and easier to purchase with cash if you don't want a loan.

For him, it doens't matter since they drive them until death.

me, I bought a car at the same time. 3 year old Camry, coming off lease, 18,800 miles, 2K or so BELOW book value. It was a steal. and the leasing co is run by my friend's dad, so he knows that car inside and out. No warranty left, so i broke down and bought an extended, for the very first time. I got the "family rate" May never need it, but with my track record, I felt better doing so.

Catwoman2965
01-21-2014, 12:51 PM
Yeah, that's the kind of guy I was trying to describe. Mr. YOU'RE OUT TO GET ME FOR NO REASON! Every, single THING is a scam! The way these "mechanics" claim your car needs fluids, and tires, and brake pads, and belts and on and on and on! It's like they expect us to believe these things just magically WEAR OUT! So what if there's enough mileage on the odometer to circumnavigate the Earth 5 times.... I don't really DRIVE IT ANYWHERE! JUST TO WORK AND BACK! THERE'S NO REASON it needs stuff! And, He's so proud he saved the .50 cents turning down that unneeded repair on that bolt.... so what if the bolt fell out, followed by all the oil it was holding in, leaving him now in need of a new MOTOR at $5,000, it's the principle of the thing!

And that's about where he stands a good chance of mutating into mister instant-expert. Sure, they don't know anything about cars or mechanicals, but, they know it didn't have a blown motor yesterday! And it does today! The day after you guys replaced a burnt out taillight bulb.... isn't that a little bit CONVENIENT???? So, since you touched it last, YOU DID IT! I'll sue! SUE SUE SUE SUE.....


Ugh, I knew at least one person who went through life that way about EVERYTHING.

Spent the absolute minimum they conceivably could on EVERY consumer good from frozen pizzas to tennis shoes, and then bitched and moaned about the horrid low quality because he "shouldn't have to" pay MORE to get MORE. :rolleyes:

Yup. my friend's Dh who I discussed above was like that. And I had a friend, who was amazed that even though HEr car had almost no miles, the face it was 6-7 years old didn't mean your tires are still good. they rot. And she couldn't get that even if you drive it very little or not at all, you still need to do regular maintenance.

My mechanic is great. he will tell you: this needs to be done asap, this needs to be done soon (2 more oil changes ,etc.) and this can wait a bit. I trust him to tell me what ne4eds to be done, and when, and he does it. he left workign for a dealer to open his own shop since the dealer told him he needed to find something wrong wth every car. and that's not how he is.

protege
01-23-2014, 12:55 AM
Yup. my friend's Dh who I discussed above was like that. And I had a friend, who was amazed that even though HEr car had almost no miles, the face it was 6-7 years old didn't mean your tires are still good. they rot.


Yep, tires will eventually dry rot. The rubber compounds simply break down over time. I admit, that I had some truly ancient Michelins on the project car for a bit. They were fine for slow, around-town driving. Not so good for um, "spirited" driving. The only reason they were on the car, is that they had been carefully stored ( a bit grubby though) when it came off the road--it wasn't until much later...that after some scrubbing, I found out they dated from 1978 :eek: Anyway, they served their purpose, until one Sunday afternoon. After a drive, I noticed some serious bulges in the sidewalls :eek: Yep, I got *very* lucky that one didn't fail while cruising. So they all got replaced...including the 40-year-old original-equipment Dunlop on the spare! Getting that off the rim involved a large hammer and some very colorful vocabulary. Seems that the tire turned solid and wasn't a hurry to come off.

EvilEmpryss
01-23-2014, 01:13 AM
I do have one tiny bit of proof that the dealerships are in fact scamming owners: the salesman for my Honda Odyssey talked up how the car was designed to only need oil changes every 7,000 miles and how that would save me on only having to get half the oil changes every year.

When did the oil change idiot light come on? Every 3,000 on the dot.

Most people see the idiot light and go "Oh, must be time for an oil change" and toddle into their dealer to get it done. Ignoring for a moment the fact that today's oils are designed to go a heck of a lot longer than 7,000 between changes, this is just scammy on the manufacturer's part. Either the vehicle needs oil changes ever 7,000 miles or it doesn't. Get your story straight.

greensinestro
01-23-2014, 02:32 AM
I do have one tiny bit of proof that the dealerships are in fact scamming owners: the salesman for my Honda Odyssey talked up how the car was designed to only need oil changes every 7,000 miles and how that would save me on only having to get half the oil changes every year.

When did the oil change idiot light come on? Every 3,000 on the dot.

Most people see the idiot light and go "Oh, must be time for an oil change" and toddle into their dealer to get it done. Ignoring for a moment the fact that today's oils are designed to go a heck of a lot longer than 7,000 between changes, this is just scammy on the manufacturer's part. Either the vehicle needs oil changes ever 7,000 miles or it doesn't. Get your story straight.

I can go 6,000 miles, and my light comes on at that time. Some oil can go 10,000 I hear.

Seshat
01-23-2014, 03:02 AM
My mechanic is great. he will tell you: this needs to be done asap, this needs to be done soon (2 more oil changes ,etc.) and this can wait a bit. I trust him to tell me what needs to be done, and when, and he does it.

Our mechanic does that for us, too.

He costs a little bit more in labour & overheads than 'the cheapest mechanic', but he or his receptionist will ring around and look for a perfectly fine secondhand whatsit or doodad for our car; and when they find them (which is usually), save us a bunch of money on that. More than the bit-extra for labour & overheads costs us.

They also will 'throw in' the 50c light bulb or the $1.50 fuse; have the apprentice clean the car, pump up the tires, check the tread wear; and so on.

A mechanic like that is a keeper. And we listen to what he says!

wolfie
01-23-2014, 03:24 PM
I can go 6,000 miles, and my light comes on at that time. Some oil can go 10,000 I hear.

My oil change interval is every 25,000 miles - with ordinary 15W40 oil (no fancy synthetics).

Catwoman2965
01-23-2014, 04:00 PM
Our mechanic does that for us, too.

He costs a little bit more in labour & overheads than 'the cheapest mechanic', but he or his receptionist will ring around and look for a perfectly fine secondhand whatsit or doodad for our car; and when they find them (which is usually), save us a bunch of money on that. More than the bit-extra for labour & overheads costs us.

They also will 'throw in' the 50c light bulb or the $1.50 fuse; have the apprentice clean the car, pump up the tires, check the tread wear; and so on.

A mechanic like that is a keeper. And we listen to what he says!

OMG yes. either last winter or the year before, I needed some stuff done, including my heat looked at. it wasn't THAT cold out, and it was putting some out, but not 100%. so i said ok, i need this and that, plus the heat, but that will have to wait as i can't afford it all now. they said, oh no, you need heat, we'll fix it, and you pay us whenever (within a week or two when i got paid again) turned out not to be that pricy so i was able to pay it all, but they are awesome. and i also don't think he charged me for any LABOR that time either.

ADeMartino
01-24-2014, 03:31 PM
My oil change interval is every 25,000 miles - with ordinary 15W40 oil (no fancy synthetics).

Yes, BUT... you're driving an over-the-road truck (I can tell by that 15W40 spec). The thing that pollutes motor oil is the short-distance driving most people do. Cold starts and stop-and-go driving are HELL on motor oil - moisture and deposits end up in the oil under those conditions. A heavy truck is started and runs for HOURS all its life. It gets hot and STAYS hot - so there is far less opportunity for the moisture and 'cold start' deposits to build up and contaminate the oil.

An ex-girlfriend of mine's father was a salesman and on the road constantly. He could drive his car for MONTHS, racking up 15,000 miles between changes, and that oil was clean and clear when it came out of the pan. The car he drove had over 300,000 miles on it, and still ran great when he sold it.... (bear in mind this was in the mid-1980s, when cars seldom got past the 150,000 mile mark!)

KatherineB
01-25-2014, 03:36 AM
My mechanic is awesome. He comes to my house or my work and gives me great service, is always chatty and friendly, and I also know he's not ripping me off. How? A light went out inside the car, and instead of fixing it (and charging himself) he wrote down what globe I needed, etc, told me what shop to go to and told me how to fix it. 50c job and I learned something. Great stuff!