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Mytical
12-24-2014, 05:54 AM
Little background for those who are new to the forum. There are days that my legs just sometimes refuse to work. There are days in which I even need help dressing. It is not something I am happy about, but I think I do pretty good in being self reliant. It makes me feel terrible when I do need to ask for help. Also, I look healthy, even if I am not..if I don't have my cane or walker, most people can not tell that a thing is wrong with me.

Yesterday after I had said good night to Marmalady, I decided to be a bit naughty and go get some eggnog (diabetic, so not good for me.. but I digress). I got to the store, got into the door of Walmart, when pain raced up my legs indicating that my legs were done for the day...even if I was not. So, I had to take advantage of the electric carts. Since my legs were done, all I was going to do is go to the information desk or nearest CSM and let them know that I had to take it to my car, and would not be able to bring it back. My caretaker (my mom) was somewhere off in the store, and had no clue what was going on.. and I just didn't want to abandon it in case somebody needed it.

I had got like 10' in the store when this young girl, I would guess about 10-11 years old. Come racing past me, happy that she was going to get to 'Ride the scooters!'. I thought it was cute. I was about to even tell her that she could have the one I was on when I was done with it..

A sudden booming voice says "You! Young man!" (I am 40, but do not look it). "My daughter needs that cart." I turned around and saw this woman who I swear looked like my math teacher in 5th grade..one I had nightmares about because she would smack my hand with a ruler for the least little thing. Anyhow..

I was about to tell this woman, that if she would follow me out to the car, I would be HAPPY to give it up. Then I wouldn't have to bother the employees. I tend to try to avoid confrontations if I can.. but what was said next ended that quickly. "I swear a perfectly healthy guy like you, taking the carts from those who really need it." (She had walked around to infront of me, waving a boney finger at me).

"You mean .. from the young girl jumping up and down in excitement a few minutes ago.. who is right now tugging on your sleeve.. and looking embarrassed?"

"Why I never.. she needs it more then YOU do."

Which I am sad to say, was when nice Mytical decided to take a lunch break, and let the Mytical that has NO brain to mouth filter run things. The minute she saw my expression change, she took a step back (For some reason I have that effect on people).. but wasn't about to change her Holier then thou bit. "I am done here." I said, and was trying to get past her before the last of my 'give a care' went away..

Would I be posting this if it had stopped there. Of course not. The woman said "You WILL get up and let my daughter have the scooter."

I.. won't repeat what I said, but I will say that afterwards the woman was as white as a ghost, and looking somewhat like a fish out of water. The thing is the whole time her daughter, bless her, was saying "No mommy, I can wait." and tugging on her mothers sleeve... well her mother's brain must have done the Blue Screen of Death.. because she was sputtering and stuttering.. trying to say something.. I didn't stick around to find out what.. I proceeded with what I was going to do in the first place, leaving her looking at me as if I had three heads and was breathing fire.

I don't curse often, and I HATE that I cursed in front of a child. I have no brain to mouth filter..I think it I say it. The employees were a little..skittish about approaching me when I got to the customer service desk..but were nothing but kind and efficient. I got out to the vehicle, one of the employees took the cart back..and I sat in the card feeling absolutely horrible for that little girl...all because her mom decided that she knew anything about me.

Sorry lol forgot the most important part. Apparently I ruined the little girls Christmas by refusing to give up the scooter.. Now how that works... I ... don't know.

Marmalady
12-24-2014, 06:25 AM
So many times I have wished I could be with you, but what I wouldn't have given to be there right then. That woman would have known what Mama Bear looks like.

(and I know you'd feel bad about swearing in front of a child, but if that's the way her mother usually treats other people, it's probably not the first time she's heard swear words)

eltf177
12-24-2014, 08:15 AM
Momma needs to dump the attitude and learn to wait. And not judge other people she doesn't know.

And I'm getting the impression the girl didn't really need a scooter to get around, she just wanted to drive it...

Monterey Jack
12-24-2014, 01:11 PM
And I'm getting the impression the girl didn't really need a scooter to get around, she just wanted to drive it...

Gee, the fact that she was "jumping up and down in excitement" might be a clue... :rolleyes:

What a bitch. I mean, if she herself were handicapped and needed it, that would be one thing, but just to let her hyperactive brat joyride it around the store? Fuck YOU, lady.

An Haddock
12-24-2014, 02:35 PM
I'm dying here... if you don't want to post what you said, how about PMing it? :)

Sandman
12-24-2014, 03:30 PM
Ditto that! I want to know as well!

KuariKaydrith
12-24-2014, 03:30 PM
If it's anything like me when I drop my brain to mouth filter I can imagine just how the blue Mytical's language was! I tend to get rather, um, verbose and colourful when I lose it at somebody who richly deserves being put in their place. I know it sucks that it happened in front of a child, but I sort of get the feeling that this is not the first time it may have happened to this wonderful excuse of a parent.

I was always taught that the wheelchairs and electric scooters that stores provided were for people who actually need them, and I would never in a million years question a person in one of those things unless I knew for a fact that they didn't actually need them. They are not toys and no child should be taught that they are toys.

AccountingDrone
12-24-2014, 05:18 PM
If it's anything like me when I drop my brain to mouth filter I can imagine just how the blue Mytical's language was! I tend to get rather, um, verbose and colourful when I lose it at somebody who richly deserves being put in their place. I know it sucks that it happened in front of a child, but I sort of get the feeling that this is not the first time it may have happened to this wonderful excuse of a parent.

I was always taught that the wheelchairs and electric scooters that stores provided were for people who actually need them, and I would never in a million years question a person in one of those things unless I knew for a fact that they didn't actually need them. They are not toys and no child should be taught that they are toys.

Not to mention, *in general* if a kid has a chronic health issue that requires some form of mobility assistance, they tend to have their own as they frequently need specialty stuff that is not adult sized. If they need a scooter for something as short as a shopping trip, they probably need one for getting around in school ... and have their own kid sized scooter or power chair, or wheelchair. Heck, my custom folding crutches are from a company that originated making custom mobility goodies for kids. [hence the ability to get them in all sorts of whacked colors and color combinations. I chose purple =) ]

notalwaysright
12-24-2014, 05:33 PM
What... Yelled at because mom wants kid to "play" on it? I think my brain BSOD on this one. I know more than one person who looks fine but isn't, and has told me stories of being yelled at for taking handicap spots, etc. I know it happens, but I'm always blown away when I hear about it.

I haven't been to that particular store in years (this location is NOT cheaper, and on the other side of town, and I also have reasons that would go into fratcheting) but no matter my someone harsh views of it, it seems horribly low even for there.

Also, :hug: I know you feel bad about swearing, but... I don't think anyone could fault you in this case.

Mytical
12-24-2014, 05:46 PM
Even though I know better, I am still trying to wrap my mind about the logic that somehow not getting a scooter ruined a christmas. I don't think I can can do the mental gymnastics required. Heck I don't think Mary Lou in her prime could do that good of gymnastics..

Wait.. I just proved how ancient I am by bringing up Mary Lou Retton .. didn't I?

Jay 2K Winger
12-24-2014, 06:25 PM
When I worked at the wholesale club, the FDLP guys controlled access to those scooters. They required a key to operate, and we kept the keys and only gave them out to people with a genuine need.

You say you're too tired and you want a scooter? Sorry, "too tired" is not a valid reason to take one of our scooters.

Your kids want to play on the scooter? Sorry, they are not toys, they are for our customers with genuine mobility issues.

We caught some flak from Sucktomers who didn't like that we told them "no," and there was one instance in which a Sucktomer was rebuffed by my supervisor, and-- having talked to me previously-- tried to get me to override my supervisor. He ended up going to Manglement, who overrode us, but we at least stood firm on it.

Evannah
12-24-2014, 06:44 PM
Wow. I'm appalled at this... woman's (using the term lightly) behaviour. I'm sorry you had to deal with someone so monstrous!

mathnerd
12-24-2014, 07:26 PM
Not to mention, *in general* if a kid has a chronic health issue that requires some form of mobility assistance, they tend to have their own as they frequently need specialty stuff that is not adult sized. If they need a scooter for something as short as a shopping trip, they probably need one for getting around in school ... and have their own kid sized scooter or power chair, or wheelchair. Heck, my custom folding crutches are from a company that originated making custom mobility goodies for kids. [hence the ability to get them in all sorts of whacked colors and color combinations. I chose purple =) ]


In general, maybe, but not always. It can be very difficult to get insurance companies to pay for mobility equipment for sporadic issues. My youngest son has his own wheelchair, but my oldest, who has the same bone disease, but is not as badly affected, does not. There are times when he really does need those scooters in the stores, since he can't get his own chair.

TheSHAD0W
12-24-2014, 07:35 PM
I.. won't repeat what I said, but I will say that afterwards the woman was as white as a ghost, and looking somewhat like a fish out of water.
Well... Darn! I would've liked to hear it! It must've been epic! :D

Ironclad Alibi
12-24-2014, 09:15 PM
Wait.. I just proved how ancient I am by bringing up Mary Lou Retton .. didn't I?

Ancient? I was in college when Mary Lou Retton was born. I don't consider myself ancient, yet.

MoonCat
12-24-2014, 11:44 PM
If her kid was jumping up and down, she very likely did NOT need a scooter. And suppose the kid was joyriding around the store in the scooter and a customer came in who actually DID need it?

God, I hate parents like that.

And as for swearing - Mytical, we all know you're one of the good guys. Even a good guy can sometimes be pushed too far.

Food Lady
12-25-2014, 06:43 AM
I suffer this kind of stuff because my disabilities are not obvious and not officially declared (meaning I have to work and don't have the right to park in handicapped). I look healthy, but the truth is that lifting something over 10 lbs can possibly send me to urgent care.

Gilhelmi
12-25-2014, 09:54 AM
Food Lady, I know this is a bit off-topic, but.

My mother has 'weight issues' where she has a very hard time losing weight. Until a few years ago, she looked fine too. But as time went on, her condition got worse. Eventually causing other problems with her knees.

I honestly believe, if she had been diagnosed earlier, gotten a 'handicapped' placard earlier, and used the motorized scooters (at all, she still has too much stupid 'pride' there). She might have been able to live healthier today. Mother will be wheelchair bound by age 75 at this rate.

I say all that, because if you have a disability, you should see a doctor or a specialist and get it taken care of now. Not even knowing what you have, just in general, these things are better taken care of today.

An Haddock
12-25-2014, 12:56 PM
I don't curse often, and I HATE that I cursed in front of a child. I have no brain to mouth filter..I think it I say it. The employees were a little..skittish about approaching me when I got to the customer service desk..but were nothing but kind and efficient. I got out to the vehicle, one of the employees took the cart back..and I sat in the card feeling absolutely horrible for that little girl...all because her mom decided that she knew anything about me.

Sorry lol forgot the most important part. Apparently I ruined the little girls Christmas by refusing to give up the scooter.. Now how that works... I ... don't know.


Well, like I said in my message... I don't think what you said was all that bad and if anything you helped that kid by calling out the mother in front of her on her bad behavior.

Feel better!

wolfie
12-25-2014, 01:27 PM
"I swear a perfectly healthy guy like you, taking the carts from those who really need it." (She had walked around to infront of me, waving a boney finger at me).

"Why I never.. she needs it more then YOU do."

Would I be posting this if it had stopped there. Of course not. The woman said "You WILL get up and let my daughter have the scooter."

I'd be tempted to answer "And what medical school did you graduate from, bitch? They need to lose their accreditation.

Wait.. I just proved how ancient I am by bringing up Mary Lou Retton .. didn't I?

Mary Lou Retton? Wasn't she still wearing diapers when Olga Korbut took the gold in Montreal?

KuariKaydrith
12-25-2014, 02:16 PM
Not everybody who has physical disabilities looks disabled - I know I don't. But if the kid is able to jump and bounce around I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the kid likely does not actually NEED a scooter. At least not right at that moment. Some people can be fine at the start of their outing but their body may have other ideas later on and they would need those mobility aids. If that is the case with this child then the mother should have said something along those lines instead of turning into a demanding bitch.

Ironclad Alibi
12-25-2014, 06:13 PM
Mary Lou Retton? Wasn't she still wearing diapers when Olga Korbut took the gold in Montreal?

I hope not. Mary was 8 years old at the time.

kibbles
12-25-2014, 10:21 PM
A big kudos to the little girl for being nice and courteous and saying "I can wait"..she is obviously learning something the so-called adult isn't teaching..heart-warming to hear that part. :)

notalwaysright
12-25-2014, 10:42 PM
Forgot to mention, the OP is much more easy going than I. Lets assume the kid was just going to "ride the scooter" for FUN, which I think is a fair assumption. I don't think that's acceptable, even if the scooter was not being used. They should be left to be available to people who need them.

So I would not have thought it was cute. I know, it's not the kids fault that she was taught by her psychotic mother that it was okay, and I have to give her props for being smarter than her mom... But regardless, I would have been exasperated that something meant to aid a person with legitimate mobility issues was being abused.

Estil
12-25-2014, 11:53 PM
I agree, I think people who "play" with the scooters/wheelchairs are making a mockery of the disabled.

DeltaSierra
12-26-2014, 05:07 AM
I've dealt with people thinking I didn't "really need" a motorized cart because I didn't look disabled at the time. Once was when I had a cast on my leg due to a very bad ACL tear and it being winter, I wore XXXL mens black jogging pants on OVER the cast to stay warm. Another time was after getting surgery on said knee during the summer, I had to wear a leg brace for 3 weeks - I'd wear it with leggings and a long skirt and got told off multiple times that "being fat isn't a disability" (yeah I'm a few pounds overweight but not in the too fat to walk category!). Fortunately lifting my skirt high enough to show the brace was *usually* enough to get them to shut up.

MoonCat
12-26-2014, 05:12 AM
The other thing that frosts me is the mother saying, "You WILL get up..."

I'd have said something regrettable at that point. I don't let pushy bitches, especially strangers, tell me what to do, especially when I know I'm not doing anything wrong.

Seshat
12-26-2014, 11:22 AM
"you WILL get up" ...

I would have been SO tempted to shrug, and - especially if a staff member was in sight - struggle my way out of the chair and yes, allow myself to collapse onto the floor.


I have NO PROBLEM whatsoever with making a scene if it embarasses someone who hugely deserves it. :angel:

prjkt
12-26-2014, 07:13 PM
I have a feeling that might backfire Seshat, mother dearest would whinge at you to get out of the way for her...

Anakah
12-27-2014, 01:58 AM
That is why you NEVER judge someone. You never know whats wrong. You did nothing wrong you were attacked because some idiot wanted something that is meant for helping someone not a free ride for her kid to play on.

katzklaw
12-27-2014, 07:49 AM
yeah.. i know someone in the "looks healthy but has occasional mobility issues" category myself. real nice kid in his early 20s... strong as a horse, too... but for some reason he has an issue with his legs, and he sometimes needs to walk with a cane... i've heard the horror stories of how many times people have given him crap about using a cane to look cool or hipster or whatever, when he really does honestly need it. people sometimes... i swear. *shakes head*

Mr Hero
12-27-2014, 08:09 AM
The lady is a hypocrite. She thought you looked healthy, but were actually fine. She demanded you get up so her daughter, who looked healthy could ride.

Anoia
12-28-2014, 12:14 PM
but I ruined a christmas
Good.

My mom (80% disability with walking disablity) was once harrassed out of her seat on a bus just days after she got out of the hospital after her heart-attack. That POS who did so thought she was younger than her and therefore she had more rights to the seat (my mom's in her 70ies), even after a neighbour who knew my mom told her how old she was. Too bad I wasn't there, I would have unleashed hell on her. :mad:

Sapphire Silk
12-29-2014, 12:37 AM
I've dealt with people thinking I didn't "really need" a motorized cart because I didn't look disabled at the time. Once was when I had a cast on my leg due to a very bad ACL tear and it being winter, I wore XXXL mens black jogging pants on OVER the cast to stay warm. Another time was after getting surgery on said knee during the summer, I had to wear a leg brace for 3 weeks - I'd wear it with leggings and a long skirt and got told off multiple times that "being fat isn't a disability" (yeah I'm a few pounds overweight but not in the too fat to walk category!). Fortunately lifting my skirt high enough to show the brace was *usually* enough to get them to shut up.

Ugh. I hear you, Delta. 18 months ago I had to have surgery on my foot. I was in a walking boot for six weeks, on crutches for the first four of that. Since the surgery was scheduled, I had a handicapped placard for my car. I would use the crutches to get into the store, leave them at customer service and use a cart to do my shopping. The stores around here are good about helping customers with mobility issues get their purchases to the car, and the carts back to the store.

Six months later I broke the same foot. Back in the walking boot I went, only the hangtag for my car was expired. I had Evil Empryss's in my car (she had both a hang tag and a plate on her car), but I didn't dare use it. In spite of the boot and the crutches, I was terrified someone would challenge me if I used handicapped parking without her.

You can't tell about disability just by looking. If there were no carts when I needed one there were no carts. Just that simple. It would never occur to me to think of demanding one from someone because they didn't "look" disabled to me.

I recently sent an LTE to the local news paper about the issue of using carts with respect. Don't know if it will make a difference but at least I tried.

Eisa
12-29-2014, 11:33 AM
^That is why, when I go out to the store these days, I end up using the store wheelchair if it's available, because a) I can't figure out the motorized carts very well anyway and b) at least then, I'm less likely to get the "but you don't LOOK disabled!" Which I can be like "yes, well, you try easily bringing forearm crutches on a moped in winter, asshole." :rolleyes: Although yesterday, since I went to the store in the morning for once, I didn't use the store wheelchair out of embarrassment...and ended up paying for it with shit-tons of pain. Not the most brilliant of plans.

Anyway. The little girl in the OP might have needed it for later or something, but in that case, her mother should have calmly informed you of that, Mytical, and not pitched a fit and demanded you get out of it, what a rude bitch.

Lace Neil Singer
12-29-2014, 05:47 PM
I too want to know what you said, but whatever it was, I bet that mother deserved to hear it.

Nearly a decade ago, I had a bad accident (or an "on purpose" as I called it, given that it was entirely the fault of the car driver) when a guy in a car tried to overtake my motorbike and instead, crashed into me. I escaped with a broken hand and two broken ribs; however, I was off work for three months cuz my hand was broken so badly. I had nothing to show that I was not one hundred percent and as a result, had a bitch yell at me on a bus cuz I refused to get up so that she could sit down. I looked her in the eye and coldly explained that my broken hand and broken ribs trumped her laziness as regards the right to a seat, namely as she could use her hands to hold on to the strap and I couldn't, plus a fall due to not hanging on could result in a rib going into my lung. She didn't have an answer for that, but she did stop yelling at me.

Amanita
12-31-2014, 09:37 PM
Mytical, you did NOTHING wrong by swearing at that nasty old bitch. Entitled cows like her need and richly deserve to be taken down a peg or two.

You know why they keep pulling that entitled crap? Because they keep getting away with it, and nobody has the nerve to call them on their bullshit. Maybe if more people did what you do and stood up to these sorry excuses for people, we wouldn't have so many problems with entitle-whores doing what they want.

RootedPhoenix
01-01-2015, 04:47 PM
yeah.. i know someone in the "looks healthy but has occasional mobility issues" category myself. real nice kid in his early 20s... strong as a horse, too... but for some reason he has an issue with his legs, and he sometimes needs to walk with a cane... i've heard the horror stories of how many times people have given him crap about using a cane to look cool or hipster or whatever, when he really does honestly need it. people sometimes... i swear. *shakes head*


I've had folks try to convince me I don't need my walking stick. I don't feel like going to the ER because I broke myself after a dizzy spell...or after my legs straight up stopped working...just so they can feel that they know all.

Also, ARGH. That lady. *rubs temples* !!! grrrr!!!