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notalwaysright
08-01-2015, 04:36 AM
Not a huge deal, just more stress and waste of money.

Was apparently supposed to receive a package through USPS today. I thought it was sent regular mail, but I got a text asking if it got here, and a copy of the tracking number. It was sent (by my well meaning mom) first class next day delivery, so it should have been delivered today.

When I look it up, it says attempted delivery, notice was left. Oh hell no. I was home all day today. I HEARD the mailman. Our mailboxes are old school metal slots on the entryway wall. Which just happens to be directly on the other side of my living room. If I'm home I can hear it open and shut, even if I'm in the shower. It's an old building.

I heard him come and open the boxes, shut and leave. If I had known it was supposed to be here today, I would have gone out and asked. But I assumed it was sent regular and wouldn't be here until tomorrow or next week. He didn't knock, on my door or any other unit, and there is no notice anywhere.

Now I wouldn't care if it was like UPS where they try to deliver the next day. Since it's USPS now I have to call them, or fill out the email redeliver form which looks quite long. Oh, and I have filled out a form for them to always leave packages, they should have left it anyway. The post office is pure agony, but now I don't know if I trust him to actually deliver it.

So yeah, I guess the thing that made me mad is that I know he didn't even try to deliver it. :mad:

EricKei
08-01-2015, 05:26 AM
I've had that happen before -- especially the "didn't even try to deliver" bit. If need be, contact the regional Postmaster General's office, they'll light a fire under their butts if that is what it takes.

notalwaysright
08-01-2015, 05:49 AM
I've had that happen before -- especially the "didn't even try to deliver" bit. If need be, contact the regional Postmaster General's office, they'll light a fire under their butts if that is what it takes.

I don't remember this happening before, though I've had other weirdness for sure. Delivered to the wrong address, or delivered but not to the front door, etc. Few and far between, to be fair.

Now that I think about it, I remember a month or two ago I was pretty sure the mail didn't get picked up at all. I could tell because we just have an open cubby for the outgoing mail,* and the stuff in there stayed all day.


*It says "Outgoing Mail - Not an ashtray!" It in no way resembles an ashtray. :confused:

EricKei
08-01-2015, 12:38 PM
I had one time where, after some calling around, I was informed that the delivery person had their truck stopped in front of my house, and simply didn't feel like lifting the box. They didn't even ring the bell.

I've only ever had one major mis-delivery that I know of: a PS3, back when they were current. I only knew about it because the person who got it recognized my name (it had gone to (e.g.) 254 Mystreet instead of 245 Mystreet) -- she was an elderly lady who couldn't pick up the box herself.

sstabeler
08-01-2015, 02:49 PM
(it had gone to (e.g.) 254 Mystreet instead of 254 Mystreet).

um... I presume you meant to give different numbers.


But I've had a similar problem with packages delivered by Royal Mail. If I don't see the postman coming, and open the door then I get a "sorry you were out" card and have to retrieve the parcel from the post office. Which pissed me off once when I was waiting in a room right next to the front door- indeed, you actually have to TRY not to be noticed not to be spotted on your way to the door from this room- and I juts got the "sorry, you were out" card through the door. ( it turned out that we had a substitute postman for a few weeks, who it seems redefined laziness. When the regular postman returned, things went back to normal)

bhskittykatt
08-01-2015, 02:54 PM
I've had this happen before with the brown truck company. Sometimes they'll actually stick the post-it on the door (no windows that way in this apartment complex) but won't bother knocking even though someone is home all day. I'm guessing, based on stories from a friend who worked for them, that it's a case of someone loading their truck improperly that day and they don't want to fish out an erratically-located package. It annoys me to no end! (Especially 'cause the truck shows up anywhere typically from 1pm to 8pm, so when it's an important package and we're taking time to arrange our schedules to make sure someone is home for it, it's frustrating.)

EricKei
08-01-2015, 04:10 PM
ss - thanks! fixed ^_^;>

My big issue is that, I've been told more than once that the USPS delivery peeps are *required* to knock or ring. I've had times when I was sitting in the front room, too, and only knew that something had arrived (or not arrived...) when I heard their truck revving up and pulling away. I can count the number of times they actually knocked/rung on one hand, at a place where I lived for over twenty years.

Aragarthiel
08-01-2015, 05:59 PM
We have a designated substitute mail person who tends to leave our mailbox wide open. While it's a good way to tell if there's mail in the box without leaving the house, I'd rather not have the neighborhood see the package crammed in there or risk having the mail get wet if it rains. And I swear it rains Every. Single. Time.

ComputerNecromancer
08-01-2015, 07:17 PM
I used to hear them ring the doorbell, get up and by the time I got to the front door (I live in a second floor apartment) UPS/FEDEX would be driving off. Or I'd have to chase the mailman down the block.

This sort of thing is why years back I got fed up and printed a sheet that I tape to the inside of the glass on the front door of the building.

It's in really large print and says something like "UPS/FEDEX/etc
If you have a delivery for Apt #[mine], I <u>AM</u> home. But I'm on the second floor and it'll take a few minutes for me to get to the door.

Funny thing, no more ring & dash deliveries.

I've *once* had the driver for some lesser known company leave the box by the door. If that ever happens again, I'll add something about *not* leaving the boxes, but waiting for me.

I suspect that having the notice on the door puts the driver on notice that if they try a ring&dash, I *will* complain to their company.

notalwaysright
08-01-2015, 07:56 PM
So I probably didn't get the redelivery form filled out right. At one point it asks for the article number and I checked the box that said I didn't have it. According to the USPS lady on the phone, that's where I was supposed to put in my tracking number. But I didn't since I didn't know that "article" meant "tracking". :confused: Essentially the call didn't tell me much, I'm just waiting to see if it shows up today.

I have filled out forms for every carrier that they absolutely CAN leave packages at my door. It's the hallway of a small apartment building, people have had packages sitting for days, nobody touches them. A couple times the boxes had well known electronics logos on them, like Dell or Sony. I know, someday maybe I'll change my mind when something gets stolen, but right now I'm like leave the damn box.

The mailman had to walk by my door in order to get to the mailboxes, normally he just drops the package, knocks, and moves on to deliver the mail. So why not just dump the box, it would have taken two seconds. Maybe he left it in the truck? Normally when they deliver something I hear some beeping, like they are scanning something, or confirming delivery. I didn't hear that this time.

Arcus
08-01-2015, 08:50 PM
I hate to say it, but I got a sub mail carrier in trouble once. I was working in my front yard when he pulled up to deliver the mail. He sat for a little longer than normal and then drove off. I went and got the mail only to find the "Unable to Deliver" notice sitting there. I was at the post office waiting when he got there so I could get my package. The Postmaster wasn't too happy to find out that he not only didn't even try to deliver it, but couldn't be bothered to talk to the person less than 15 feet away. When they went out to his truck to get mine they found that he hadn't delivered any of the packages he had.

wolfie
08-01-2015, 09:27 PM
I hate to say it, but I got a sub mail carrier in trouble once. (snip) When they went out to his truck to get mine they found that he hadn't delivered any of the packages he had.

No, YOU didn't get him in trouble. He got HIMSELF in trouble by being too damn lazy to do his job (or even to "ring and dash" - since you were in the garden, he would have had to go past you, and you could have spoken to him at that point). The sooner he's gone, and replaced with someone who ACTUALLY DOES WHAT HE'S PAID TO DO, the better.

sstabeler
08-01-2015, 09:30 PM
I hate to say it, but I got a sub mail carrier in trouble once. I was working in my front yard when he pulled up to deliver the mail. He sat for a little longer than normal and then drove off. I went and got the mail only to find the "Unable to Deliver" notice sitting there. I was at the post office waiting when he got there so I could get my package. The Postmaster wasn't too happy to find out that he not only didn't even try to deliver it, but couldn't be bothered to talk to the person less than 15 feet away. When they went out to his truck to get mine they found that he hadn't delivered any of the packages he had.

actually, you were pretty much irrelevant to him getting in trouble- I'm 99% sure that as soon as it turned out that he hadn't actually delivered a single parcel, he'd have needed to answer some fairly probing questions.

Tee
08-01-2015, 09:37 PM
Yeah Arcus, when someone douses themselves in gasoline, while wearing cloths made of flashpaper, and carrying a giant torch, it's not the fault of the person they ran into that they got set on fire. XD

notalwaysright
08-01-2015, 10:04 PM
Update! Time for me to eat some crow, if that's the right expression.

My dear mom didn't write my apartment number on the box! I went out to talk to the guy and he totally had the box. So all is well, and I'm going to call my mom and remind her that I don't, in fact, occupy the whole house.

malmalthekiller
08-02-2015, 03:14 PM
I've definitely had the same thing happen. My husband and I had amazon prime, and whenever we ordered something that should have been delivered on Sunday it was never left. There were two instances where we had to track down a package at various local post offices. It would always be on a truck or moved around to a different office. We never had a package missed during the week.

When we finally called to complain about it, we were told the person who delivers on Sunday is different than our normal delivery person. What a lazy jerk.

Gilhelmi
08-03-2015, 06:57 AM
I know security cameras are only good for "After the fact" incidents, but.......

This thread is seriously tempting me to get them installed just for mundane things like mail delivery, whose taking off with Mr. Gnome, ect. I know they won't deter much (because I like to keep my home defense/security quiet) but it would be nice to have.

Catwoman2965
08-03-2015, 05:12 PM
I may have gotten a sub mailman in trouble too, but i didn't care. My complex, last year maybe, took out the individual, open, boxes outside each apartment door, and replaced them with those cluster of boxes, which lock. Which I'm fine with as I walk by on my way in each day, plus its more secure.

We also have a "package" box, where if its too large to fit in your box, but will fit there, they leave it in there, with a key in your box.

So one day I'm waiting for something to be delivered, and I see there's a sub. Go for the mail, and no package, and no key to the package box in my box.

I go inside, and it shows online as being delivered. So I knew the sub had screwed up. Anytime i've had issues with deliveries, its been when my normal mail guy is on vacation.

So i'm not happy, but figured I'd call Monday (this was a Sat) monday as i'm walking to my car, i see a key in the package box, and out of curiosity, I look in there. Looky there! its MY package. my guess is someone got the key by mistake, opened the box, and realized it wasn't for them. Can't fault them but it meant anyone could have taken my package.

So since its a royal PITA to get a live person on the phone, i emailed a complaint. i also asked what is the policy for packages? i'm assuming, but could be wrong, that they only put stuff for one person in at a time. But i don't know, even though that makes sense. I really just wanted to find out what the actual procedure and policy is, not to get someone in trouble.

so when i got home that night, i had a message from my local PO apologizing and saying the sub would be spoken too. oops.

FF another couple weeks, and i find a key to the package box in my box. But i couldn't open it, no matter how hard I tried. i see the mailguy up the hill at the next cluster of buildings, so i run up, and flag him down. Again, a sub, but not sure if the same one or not.

So he stops, gets out and gives me this huffy "what?" I politely said i can't open the box "again, with attitude "Which apt?" i tell him, and he gets in the truck, and zooms around, gets out, stalks down, opens the box, slams the door, and practically shoves the box at me! Ok asshole, fine.

i don't know if it was the same guy, and he recognized my apt # from the other incident, or just having a bad day. but really? took him all of 30 seconds to do that for me. I let it as since i was afraid of retaliation, but he was a jerk. so if it was him, and i got him in trouble, i dind't care.

KuariKaydrith
08-03-2015, 07:53 PM
They are talking about installing those community mail boxes where I am and I am dreading it. I have already decided that as soon as they start installing those in my neighbourhood that I will be heading to the local post office and renting a PO box. Where I live is sorta sketchy so I can see those mailboxes being broken into more than once, and considering that I order more than a few things online that are delivered in boxes, I'd rather not taken any chances.

raudf
08-03-2015, 09:06 PM
I had a postal driver who got himself in trouble, by squeezing a power supply between two mailboxes at the end of the drive, because he refused to drive the distance up the drive to give the box to us. The power supply was damaged beyond use thanks to the jerk and I had to contact the shipper to let them know... >.< I then called our post office and chewed. He'd also do this with my parents' meds.. some of which were high on the list of "we get stolen from the mailbox."

This same driver would fail to drive up the driveway at all, simply leaving a little note that said, "Attempted delivery, no one home - went down drive." Bullshit. Pure bullshit. You see, Dad and I were standing outside his house at the time. OUTSIDE, right next to said driveway. Thanks to the dogs (drivers do not have to get out of vehicles), there was no way we could have missed you driving up the drive. I told his boss this and he was told to bring it back when he finished his route. See, being lazy cost you legit being lazy time! And this wasn't the only time he'd pull this shit. It was a constant "fun" thing for him to do and all three families complained.

He retired.. and the new lady is a vast improvement.

UPS, they save us to last. I know if something is coming via UPS, it won't arrive until after 5pm. Fedex, any time after noon. If I'm not home, they place the package on the porch. Nothing is going to steal it, unless it's something edible.. dogs are both a blessing and a curse, but they love the kids and will protect them from the wild animals and snakes with their lives.

Kit-Ginevra
08-03-2015, 11:38 PM
*It says "Outgoing Mail - Not an ashtray!" It in no way resembles an ashtray. :confused:

That won't stop people trying to use it as an ashtray. And the fact there is a sign there normally means someone has tried it. That's why they've had to put it there...

Racket_Man
08-04-2015, 08:09 AM
One of the reason I will not buy things from places like Amazon and New Egg is not because I do not like the companies BUT because of the way the shipping companies handle deliveries.

In the past (a while back) I ordered a mid-range computer sound system and opted for 3 day delivery because that would mean it would be delivered on my day off. I SPECIFICALLY specified ADULT SIGNITURE REQUIRED (which I assumed meant that the deliver person HAD to at the very least knock on my door yes VERY naive of me at the time).

Now I live right next to a high school. THis is WHY I wanted an adult signature required delivery.

On the delivery day I check my tracking number and it showed "Out For Delivery" so I hung around the house waiting for my stuff to arrive. I was there the whole day.

I decided to check outside and found the package laying right out in the open in front of my door. $250 sound system (in the original package with shipping label) just sitting there for anyone to snatch. Luckily this was right before school let out so no harm done BUT I KNOW what could have happened.

DGoddessChardonnay
08-09-2015, 04:05 AM
ss - thanks! fixed ^_^;>

My big issue is that, I've been told more than once that the USPS delivery peeps are *required* to knock or ring. I've had times when I was sitting in the front room, too, and only knew that something had arrived (or not arrived...) when I heard their truck revving up and pulling away. I can count the number of times they actually knocked/rung on one hand, at a place where I lived for over twenty years.

I've had this happen as well and I've been at the same address for 25 years. The only way I've found packages at times has been to open the front door to step out onto the front porch for a smoke and discover the package either lying on the table by the front door or sitting on the floor near the door.

I've actually had one occasion where I had a brown truck delivery and he actually met me at the back deck and actually helped me get the box up the steps and onto the deck (large box - it was my red fridge that I purchased for the office, BTW.)

I just propped open the back storm door, walked that box in the rest of the way and started breaking it down in the laundry room. Nice delivery guy, too (he's worked our area for years but I can't recall his name - but my brother would know. He knows everybody in the 'hood.:lol:)

Had one unfortunate incident w/a package left on the front porch that arrived not only mangled on one corner but the contents inside were broken in several places (a vintage mixer I had purchased on eBay that had been handpainted.) Wasn't Brown Truck but one of the other major ones that delivered it. :eek: :mad::rant:

I took photos of the damage w/my digital camera (this was a few years before I had a smartphone w/camera,) uploaded the pics to the computer and emailed the seller and let her know what had happened (she was just as horrified at the mess as I was.)

IIRC she filed a complaint w/the carrier and every purchase I made since then from her (I had bought several pieces from her until she got sick and had to stop working :() they would come by Brown Truck or USPS.

HiddenMica
09-01-2015, 03:58 AM
I live in an appartment building. One in a complex of buildings but we are closest to the mail boxes up a flight of stairs. The postlady, on multiple occasions, didn't walk up to the door to deliver the mail and instead left the "tried to deliver" in the mailbox because she was too lazy.

After a $1500 item wasn't delivered, and my fiance took the day off to make sure he would receive it, we called the post master. The post master MADE HER COME BACK. As she was still on her route when we called (we estimated she was about 30 minutes away on the route from her normal times) and she had to stop, return, and deliver the package.

Hasn't happened since.

Except for the odd theft which was years ago and was apparently a postal worker stealing things. Yay for federal charges of mail tampering and recieving stolen goods? Estimated about $300 in product just from us. He liked the e-cig stuff the boy toy was ordering and would just scan the paypal printed mail tags and if he liked what it contained (did you know the pay pal mail tags told that?) he would tuck it away instead of sorting it like he was supposed to. Don't think he realized more than half of it was to two customers. Once he took the same order three times. That dealer started making mint though for a while. He insured them for double their worth and every other one or so would get "lost" and he would collect on it. That's probably why the post office finally took notice. XD