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DigitalEngine
09-01-2006, 09:00 AM
Before I tell you this story, I would first like to say that I have no problems against Americans at general and I know that most of them are good, decent people (having lived there for a couple of years myself) but the guy in this story is a REAL asshat.

So, on to the story ..

There's a bar/lounge near the store where I worked that my co-workers and I would frequent after work. One night after work I went there with 3 of my co-workers and a mutual friend of ours. Now one of my co-workers is into Punk. Long hair, Punk get up, you know the type. He's a really nice guy, though.
Anyway when we got there, the bar/lounge was packed, as always and so we had to wait to get a table.

Now the bar/lounge had a section at one end that was packed with sofas. To huge, circular sofa things on each end and some semi-circular sofas lined up between the two ends. So anyhoos, we were finally shown to our seat, one of the semi-circular sofas right next to one of the big, circular sofas.
As I was walking to our sofa, I noticed that the big, circular sofas was packed with a bunch of expatriates. Later on I would know that they were Americans. How do I know?
a. Their accents.
b. The aforementioned asshat kept announcing it loud enough for the whole sofa-section to hear.

Anyhoos, I was the first one to reach the sofa with my friends walking behind me. And that's when I heard the asshat yell, "Cut your hair, you fucking hippy!"
I froze, and slowly turned around to look at the asshat. Sure enough, he was looking at my friend, the Punk guy, with a million dollar smirk on his face.
I slowly sat down, chosing the part of the sofa that would allow me to stare at the asshat. My friends didn't say anything, not wanting to upset me anymore than I already was, since I was the only girl in the group, but I knew they were upset.
So I sat there and I glared at him while he continued making comments about how America is the most powerful country in the world and that allows him to do all kind of shit in this country and nobody can stop him etc. etc. etc.

He finally noticed me glaring at him and went, "What the FUCK are you looking at? I CONTROL YOUR COUNTRY!"

:eek: Asshat! I would jumped over and tore him a new one if not for my friends stopping me. If he hates this country so much, what the heck is he DOING here?

One-Fang
09-01-2006, 09:23 AM
Where is 'here'?

Americans are a weird lot. Every one I've met in a situation where you actually get to know the person (friend of a friend, classmate, etc) has been a great and fun person. Open, friendly, and very easy going.

On the other hand, you've got your 'typical' American tourist. Pushy, demanding, loud, obnoxious, badly dressed, and expecting everyone else to love them just because they're Americans and America is so great. These are probably a minority, but a vocal one, so they ruin it for the rest.

I don't get it. Nice people. Asshole tourists.

JustADude
09-01-2006, 09:24 AM
As a resident of the United States, let me apologize for that headcase, and assure you that most of us would in no way judge others on their hair length, or rub it in that we control your country.:angel: Seriously, though, that guy was a :censored:ing idiot. Even if the US was as almighty in the real world as in his little brown-skyed fantasy, which we aren't, the government isn't going to start an international incident over one dry-pool diver getting himself beaten down for talking trash at the locals.

Mikkel
09-01-2006, 10:00 AM
If it's any comfort, I guess he will get beaten up, if not that day then soon :devil: . With that behaviour it's only a matter of time.
Just out of curiosity, what country is it that USA control:confused:??
Edited to say: I see, Indonesia. I hope he come to Denmark :devil::devil:.

JustADude
09-01-2006, 10:42 AM
Just to clarify: any implication that I endorse the asshat's view of the USA controling another sovergn state was ment in a humorous/sarcastic manner, and should not be taken as actually nationalistic idiocy on my part.

DigitalEngine
09-01-2006, 12:20 PM
I forgot something else the asshat said ..

Right before he said "I control your country" and I was glaring at him, the girl next to him told him -from where I was sitting, I could hear what she said- to keep his voice down because we could probably understand him.

The asshat's response? And this is precious:

"No they won't! Indonesians are too stupid!"


Stupid? At least we're civilized enough to pretend not to hear what he was saying!

BTW: My friends speak pretty good english, so they could understand what the asshat was saying. In fact, the bar/lounge is a popular hang out spot, so my guess is most people there could speak english. Shame though, none of us could do anything, because we didn't want to start an incident.

Yes, there has been an incident before involving a very irate, uncouth American mom and an Indonesian dad on the receiving end. Let me just say it did not end pretty. For the Indonesian side, that is.

Mikkel
09-01-2006, 12:55 PM
Yes, there has been an incident before involving a very irate, uncouth American mom and an Indonesian dad on the receiving end. Let me just say it did not end pretty. For the Indonesian side, that is.
Link?
That's the problem with living in a civilized country, the laws won't let you reward that kind of fool :( .
Not that I would favor violence, just a little educational beating. :lol:

chainedbarista
09-01-2006, 02:31 PM
"No they won't! Indonesians are too stupid!"

um, no, but thanks for giving them the overall impression that all americans are loud, boorish, ignorant AND stupid.

what a damned jerk; sad thing is, we get to see people like this every day in our country. argh!

MystyGlyttyr
09-01-2006, 05:26 PM
My best friend is a Canadian girl who's currently teaching school in Korea. I'm an American girl who barely knows how to go about getting a passport and certainly doesn't HAVE one. And we rip on each other other's countries constantly, BUT...we're not being mean about it...we're downright ridiculous.

<silliness on>She calls me Swampy, because I live in the south and we know it's all wetlands n' gators, and I call her Ice Queen because she lives in Canada where everyone drives sleds to work and lives in igloos. :lol: <silliness off>

People just need to feel like they're better in some way, and if all you have going for you is "M'A 'MERICUN" you need to get a fracking hobby...

protege
09-01-2006, 06:25 PM
I tend to joke around with my Canadian friends (you know who you are ;) ) by saying that Canada is our 'great big parking lot to the north,' or some good-natured kidding about how local sandwich shops have more subs than their military. It's all in good fun though :) I've been to Canada a few times, and most of the people were pretty damn nice to this "Murican." Thanks again for the hospitality the last time I was up there...waaay back in '95 :o)

I don't think that all American tourists are assholes though. Tourists in general, no matter where they come from, seem to be rude, clueless idiots. They all seem to have the "entitlement" attitude, simply because they think that they're spending their "hard earned cash" they can act like that. With people like that, it's no wonder tourists are hated.

Since I don't act like that (unless provoked) when I travel, I tend to get excellent service in shops and restaurants. In fact, as I was buying some old railroad timetables while on vacation, I had an interesting conversation with the shop owner. We got to talking about the changes around Cape May...how I could remember what the area was like years ago and how it was less crowded. As we were talking...I found out that she lived near the railroad museum in Strasburg (PA)...that I've been to a few times! Talk about a small world :)

ditchdj
09-01-2006, 07:51 PM
Yeah but the hate goes both ways. I've even heard that Americans were getting harassed in France so much that their country lost a lot of tourist bucks because a lot of Americans stopped going there. I hear there's no shortage of Americans getting swiped at by the UK and it's former colonies. I know that a lot of Americans are guilty of that kind of boorishness, but I also hear about good manners are on the rapid decline in pretty much the rest of the English-speaking countries in the world.

Broomjockey
09-01-2006, 08:33 PM
Yeah but the hate goes both ways. I've even heard that Americans were getting harassed in France so much that their country lost a lot of tourist bucks because a lot of Americans stopped going there. I hear there's no shortage of Americans getting swiped at by the UK and it's former colonies. I know that a lot of Americans are guilty of that kind of boorishness, but I also hear about good manners are on the rapid decline in pretty much the rest of the English-speaking countries in the world.

The joke answer of course would be "You can see the effect America has on the world." ;)

The real answer is entitlement runs rampant in high technology societies, as people become accustomed to tasks being accomplished more quickly, and items being more available. And most of the higher tech areas in the world speak English.

And entitlement issues are of course the reason we're all here.

ditchdj
09-01-2006, 09:13 PM
Actually I like to think of the United States as the rebellious child of the British Empire that went his own way and his siblings thinking less of him for doing so. Actually I dont see any point of living under a King or Queen if they dont even have the power to rule over their own people anyway.

Trishlovesdolphins
09-01-2006, 10:11 PM
perhaps we should meet him at the border and tell him we don't want him back?!

AFpheonix
09-01-2006, 10:14 PM
And you know he's the moron that stands in the middle of the store yelling at whatever CSR drew the short straw to deal with him that day. Gah.

XCashier
09-02-2006, 12:01 AM
He finally noticed me glaring at him and went, "What the FUCK are you looking at? I CONTROL YOUR COUNTRY!"
"Yeah, but you can't control your MOUTH!" Arrogant boor. Thanks for making all Americans look like arseholes! :mad:

Mike Taylor
09-05-2006, 05:44 PM
Yeah but the hate goes both ways. I've even heard that Americans were getting harassed in France so much that their country lost a lot of tourist bucks because a lot of Americans stopped going there. I hear there's no shortage of Americans getting swiped at by the UK and it's former colonies. I know that a lot of Americans are guilty of that kind of boorishness, but I also hear about good manners are on the rapid decline in pretty much the rest of the English-speaking countries in the world.

What's happening is that these poor souls are getting punished for the decisions made by our government. Where I live (Naples FL), we get a lot of UK, French, and German tourists. I go out of my way to make sure that they are treated well and occasionally I ask if they've had a good experience here. In the case of our UK customers, I mention a local grocery chain where they can get things from home (HobNobs, Batchelor's canned veggies, Heinz Spaghetti, etc) if they are feeling a bit homesick. Most of my European customers are very nice, only rarely have I run into the boorish tourist. Usually, it's a middle class jerk who is going abroad for the first time (like the guy who came to Chicago and insisted that they couldn't make a proper pizza there). The seasoned travelers normally don't act like that.

protege
09-05-2006, 05:53 PM
I've had several interesting conversations with British tourists over the years...usually when they see me wearing one of my MG T-shirts ;) In fact, one of them even lamented (in 1985, no less) that even though MGs were still being made, it just wasn't the same--the factory was squandering the octagon on econoboxes with no performance...other than the Metro and Maestro Turbos that is :D Found out later he was working at the Abingdon MG works when it shut down in 1980.

excuse me??
09-06-2006, 03:26 PM
Long time ago when the TV show 'Dallas' was being watched in throughout the world, a native Texan friend of mine vacationed several times in Europe...

As a Texan.. she was treated with more respect than an American - :)

trunks2k
09-06-2006, 05:22 PM
Yeah but the hate goes both ways. I've even heard that Americans were getting harassed in France so much that their country lost a lot of tourist bucks because a lot of Americans stopped going there. I hear there's no shortage of Americans getting swiped at by the UK and it's former colonies. I know that a lot of Americans are guilty of that kind of boorishness, but I also hear about good manners are on the rapid decline in pretty much the rest of the English-speaking countries in the world.

I've done a decent amount of travel to Europe. I've been to Germany, Spain, the UK, and Ireland, and I've never had a problem due to being from the US. But then again, I'm very self concious about how I act, especially when I am out of the country. So I'm usually very well behaved. Also when I tell people where I'm from, it's usually immediately followed by "And no, I did not vote for our current president."

obod7x7
09-06-2006, 06:41 PM
I went to Germany and Austria this spring and not one person gave me any problems because I am an American. In fact, I thought people there were generally more polite than the people here. I, of course, did not act like the moron mentioned above and I actually attempted to speak German. Good thing he didn't go to a non-English speaking country...he would probably demand everybody talk to him in English.

I don't understand the logic of some Americans. The educational system and huge sense of patriotism here might have something to do with it. In my high school, we were hardly taught anything about other cultures or countries. So many kids go through school without learning anything important about the rest of the world. On my trip to Austria, I am assuming that half of our group couldn't find the country on a map.

Ask some people about history, and all they will tell you is that we "won" the two world wars (and any other conflict we were in...which is untrue). Some people just assume that because we are a "superpower" (which has a loose definition), that we "control" everybody else. In other words, I am disgusted by the ignorance many Americans have. The fact that our president (no, I didn't vote for him either) thought he could just go into Iraq and expect a cakewalk isn't helping anything.

I am glad that most of us aren't that dense.

Qwakkeddup
09-06-2006, 07:22 PM
If I am correct you speak a different language? Simple mind game, Start telling each other jokes, and gesture, look askance, in his direction while laughing. A Blowhard like him would probably become very uncomfortable. And a good plus, if he says anything about it, just tell him, in your own language. If you come visit us, learn the language!

Gurndigarn
09-06-2006, 11:05 PM
Ask some people about history, and all they will tell you is that we "won" the two world wars

Well... we did end up on the winning side both times. As much as you can call anything in WWI a "win". And despite coming in near the end.

Kiwi
09-06-2006, 11:16 PM
I think im fairly well travelled for a 22 year old, ive been to America 5 times( been to quite a few states to and did my best to stay away from the tourist areas), Canada 3 times, Mexico once, Tahiti, Cook Islands (Rarotonga), and Aussie (HEAPS of times, like 20) seen most of my country New Zealand more than once

and in my travels Ive discovered it arrogance/ignorance goes both ways

alot of people (from everywhere) seem to have blinkers on and dont even realise or think about the fact that people in a different country live....differently.

I never even realised what NZ had until I travelled, there are things I can get in Canada that I couldnt get at home and vice versa. I do think Americans have been a little unfairly labelled in the uglyamerican catagoery,when my brother went to Tonga he experianced the same thing.

unless its WILLFUL like the asshat in the OP's post I think some patience and a good sence of humor would make the encounters on bothsides go alot better. If you an rude arrogant feck, you could be purple with green stripes from 'poleuptheyouknowwhere land' and youd still be a rude arrogant duck.

Actually thats one thing I miss from NZ, food from the Asia region, we had a Malaysian resturant close to my house that had an Indonesian cook....omg best food in the world! Talk about international cuisne!

appliance god
09-07-2006, 07:57 AM
250 million americans and you had to get that one.....quality control ain't what it used to be.

alphaboi
09-08-2006, 01:05 AM
250 million americans and you had to get that one.....quality control ain't what it used to be.
300 million come October.

DigitalEngine
09-08-2006, 06:37 PM
What kinds of food did you try, Kiwi? I used to bring Indonesian food to school when I was still living in the States, and the spicy ones used to get some really hilarious results.

Yes, the guy was a rude ignorant prick, and the other Americans who shared his table actually looked embarrassed by the way their friend was acting. I heard his friends telling him to be quiet.
At times when I think about this guy I would try to think positive and reason that maybe he had one beer too many, which would explain his incapability of controlling his behavior.
Like I said, I know most Americans are good, well mannered people. I still have friends and family living in the States, and I must say that sometimes I miss living there.

chainedbarista
09-09-2006, 06:32 AM
one beer too many or one brain cell too few? hard to decide; maybe it was a severe case of redneckitis.

tendomentis
09-13-2006, 04:53 PM
Just for a different view....

I was raised a US military BRAT (that's Born, Raised, And, Trapped for those of you who don't know :) ), but my father was transferred to the US Army wing of the US State Department when I was ten, so I spent the first ten years of my life a good ol' army brat, and the other eight years of my childhood as a diplomat brat.

Which is very different.

Typically, diplo-brats won't speak loudly in public so as not to give away the fact that we're from the US. A game that me and my friends would play is to change our accents to something completely NOT american while out in public, something that is easy to pull off when a lot of my friends were not american (it's easier to pick up their accents that way).

Generally, we made quiet fun of the tourists (not just from the USA either) and would go back to reading our local mag or newspaper.

If you're an American in another country and see a fellow countryman acting up in public and you also see several people in a group following the incident, odds are one of them is a US diplomat or diplo-brat.

On that note, god I miss Europe :(

Argabarga
09-14-2006, 10:42 PM
we control the horozontal....

we control the vertical....

/old tv refference that no one will get :D

morgana
09-15-2006, 04:28 PM
we control the horozontal....

we control the vertical....

/old tv refference that no one will get :D

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