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TruthHurts
10-02-2006, 06:00 AM
My roommate drove me and the boyfriend to the supermarket for some grocery shopping. As he was pulling into a space an elderly couple walk in front of him without looking, he is polite and lets them pass. The couple passes by and the wife says in a loud, snide, voice "Well excuse us" This set my roomie off and he said some choice words towards the couple who ignored him.

The bf and I are in the soup aisle when we encounter the couple, the lady makes a point to stand in front of whatever section in the aisle I was looking at. The boyfriend and I ignore it and go about our shopping, but every aisle we go to that same couple followed. As a joke my bf quietly remarked that they were stalking us. Despite the fact that A.) This was said very quietly and B) The couple had already departed to the next aisle, lady somehow heard this and stomped back to our aisle to glare at us.

We then proceed to the meat section where the couple starts wheeling their cart directly at my bf. There's more than enough room for two carts but he proceeds to push that cart and does not stop or even slow down. My bf stepped out of the way and the couple did not even look at the meat section just continued wheeling their cart.

In the parking lot neither of us said a single thing to the couple my roomie was the one who had said anything, but the fact we were there made them want to harrass us every moment we were in there. Pretty creepy.

Kiwi
10-02-2006, 06:13 AM
wow some people have so little power in their lives that they fill their days trying to intimidate strangers in the grocery store.....

and the award for "Ive wasted my life" goes to....

One-Fang
10-02-2006, 08:46 PM
Good on you both. A perfect opportunity to be justifiably completely rude yourselves, and you both took the high road. It must have been very tempting to get into an argument with them.

It's probably another effect of the "I'm old so you owe me" mentality.

Dips
10-02-2006, 09:21 PM
Somthing like that happened to us. We were trying to park and this SUV was blocking the entire row of spaces because the driver was waiting for a car to back out of THE space she wanted.

No big deal. That happens all the time and doesn't make much of a story by itself. However the person who was backing out of THE space couldn't do it because the SUV was in her way. So the SUV driver puts on her backup lights and waits for us to back up. So we did.

The woman in THE space managed to get out so we waited for the SUV to pull forward so we could park in one of six spaces it was blocking.

It turns out that the angle wasn't right for the SUV to pull into THE space, so she puts on the backup lights AGAIN expecting the three cars (ours included) stuck behind her to back up.

Mind you there are plenty of empty spaces all over this parking lot that are just about as close as THE space, including the six she was blocking us from getting to.

Backing up wasn't going to happen. My husband got irate and tooted the horn to tell her to get out of the way and let us park. We didn't want THE space, we just wanted to park. The SUV driver tooted her horn back. She wasn't moving; we think she was afraid we might take THE space.

So what did we do? At that point all the other folks in the line had given up and moved to other rows. My husband put the car in park right in the row. I got out and went into the store to start my shopping. I chose not to say anything as I walked past the SUV. Arguing with entitled idiots is tempting, but rarely productive. I just get frustrated and they don't get any smarter. :D

When I came out she was parked in THE space and my husband was parked as well. He told me he just stayed put, picked up a book and pointedly started reading it so the lady could see him. She realized he wasn't going anywhere and finally moved ahead so he could park, then she had room to maneuver into THE space.

Apparently she had just gone into the store as I was finishing my shopping. I'm kind of glad I didn't run into her.

Ljt09863
10-03-2006, 01:05 PM
pedistrians do drive me nuts sometimes. yesterday, fiancee was backing out of a space, when a lady starts walking behind the car going to the store. we know she had to see us, cause we were halfway out of the parking spot! and she didn't cross on the other side of where we were, she had to walk directly behind us, so fiancee had to stop. i meanm what if he had chosen that exact moment to look in front to make the sure the front was clearing the cars? he might not have stopped.


and when we are driving in parking lots, i hate it when people have to cross in front of us, only to stay in the middle of the road to walk down two or three lanes to get to the right lane that there car is in. when i need to cross the road, i cross so i go straight across to where i need to go. i know pedistrians have the right of way, but be considerate.

maybe im just picky, but it drives me nuts when i have to wait five minutes for somebody to move out of the way so i get to where i need to go.

Acolyte
10-03-2006, 01:20 PM
The one thing I hate about Whitehorse is the freaky disorder caused by...I dunno, living in the artic circle, is that anybody who's lived there for any amount of time feels the entitlement to walk right out into traffic. No looking, no stopping, not even at a crosswalk! They just run right out! If my car didn't have good brakes, I'd be serving jail time.

The worst are old people. Most people who run out in front of me speed up when they see two tons of angry motivated road yacht with a 19-year-old guy behind the wheel barreling down on them. However, on several occasions, they've slowed down and even stopped, causing me to leave a good stretch of rubber on the roads to keep me out of jail. Although many days, I think it'd be worth it, what with cleaning up the gene pool and all.

sarahj
10-03-2006, 02:50 PM
Sorry if I'm getting a little off-topic here, but...

Once mum & I were waiting for a parking spot at the local shopping centre. It was packed so we were one of many cars just driving around, waiting for a spot. Anyway a lady comes out of the exit, we follow her to her car in hopes of grabbing her spot. She just hops in and sits in her car for a few minutes, with us waiting while she does nothing. Then another car comes along from the other direction and pops its indicator on, for the same spot. :eek:

So mum gives up and drives over to the next row of cars, on her way out because parking seems hopeless, when an exiting lady indicates for us to follow her to her car. And we get her spot! Meanwhile, the other people were still waiting for the other lady sitting in her car. :lol:

XCashier
10-03-2006, 06:17 PM
The one thing I hate about Whitehorse is the freaky disorder caused by...I dunno, living in the artic circle, is that anybody who's lived there for any amount of time feels the entitlement to walk right out into traffic. No looking, no stopping, not even at a crosswalk! They just run right out!
We get those morons here in the desert, too, it has more to do with stupidity, senselessness and self-centeredness than geographical location.

Yeah, they're aggrivating. Then they get POed at you if you don't see them because they walked right into your blind spot. Buddy, you can see the car better than the driver can see you, and maneuver your feet* a lot easier than the driver can maneuver his/her car! Don't freaking walk out into traffic, jackass! :mad:

*and if you can't maneuver your feet easily, than it really is in your best interest to wait for traffic!

protege
10-03-2006, 07:05 PM
Yeah, they're aggrivating. Then they get POed at you if you don't see them because they walked right into your blind spot. Buddy, you can see the car better than the driver can see you, and maneuver your feet* a lot easier than the driver can maneuver his/her car! Don't freaking walk out into traffic, jackass! :mad:

One night, I nearly hit some idiot who did that. This guy was running along the sidewalk, and suddenly made a left turn in front of me. Keep in mind that it was kinda dark, rainy, and I didn't see him step out from between two telephone poles. I tried to stop, but even at 25-30mph on a wet road, there was no way I could stop in time, and I would still have knocked him into next week. It was *that* quick folks! I so expected to see the guy bounce over my hood, or worse, coming through my windshield! :eek: Even though I didn't hit him, I'm sure he crapped his pants and thought twice about what could have happened...

All too often, pedestrians think they have the right of way. They think that every driver can see them, and can somehow stop on a dime. With attitudes like that, it's no wonder people get hit.

phillippbo
10-03-2006, 09:16 PM
Pedestrians not following the rules of the road is one of my biggest pet peeves. What many people seem to not understand is this: Pedestrians have the right of way if they are already in the road and/or intersection. If they are not, traffic that's in the roadway has the right of way, no matter what that traffic happens to be.

As far as what to do with idiots that step out in front of you in a parking lot, I have the perfect answer, and it puts the fear of the automotive gods in them. (Warning: don't try this unless you are 1000000% SURE you won't mess up. Got that? Good.) What I usually do is leave my foot on the brake, drop the transmission into Neutral, and rev the engine. I've never had anybody ignore that (ESPECIALLY with a 4000+ lb Grand Cherokee sitting in front of them). :devil:

If you step out in front of a car/truck/SUV/whatever, the driver has a fraction of a second to decide what to do. That fraction of a second is even less than that, or non-existant, if said driver doesn't see you. Personally, I'd rather waste a few minutes on the sidewalk and be relatively sure that I'll cross safely than to step out there and end up at best in the hospital, and at worst the morgue.

Kogarashi
10-03-2006, 09:23 PM
What many people seem to not understand is this: Pedestrians have the right of way if they are already in the road and/or intersection.

Personally, I'd rather waste a few minutes on the sidewalk and be relatively sure that I'll cross safely than to step out there and end up at best in the hospital, and at worst the morgue.

To the first: as my husband likes to say, "Pedestrians have the right of way, but cars have the right of inertia."

To the second: big, mondo DITTO. I can't guarantee that the car driving down the road has noticed me waiting to cross the street and will stop. I've seen enough drivers chatting on cell phones, putting on makeup, drinking coffee, reading newspapers or books or maps, etc. to really trust them to stop if I don't wait for a pedestrian signal (at lighted intersections) or give myself plenty of room to at least sprint across the street.

Gurndigarn
10-03-2006, 09:48 PM
Pedestrians not following the rules of the road is one of my biggest pet peeves. What many people seem to not understand is this: Pedestrians have the right of way if they are already in the road and/or intersection. If they are not, traffic that's in the roadway has the right of way, no matter what that traffic happens to be.

Pedestrians have right of way.

Vehicles have rights of Newton's first and second laws.

One-Fang
10-03-2006, 11:38 PM
Some people just want to go out there anyway, because they have the right of way.

Yup, you do. Fat lot of good it'll do you in the hospital.

I've always thought that it's nice if I get right of way when I'm entitled to it, but if it looks like the larger object is not going to give way, then I'm not really going to push that issue. It doesn't make them right (might makes right isn't 'right'), but it's not worth arguing with them. Because in a tussle between my flesh and bone body and the SUV bearing down on me, I'm not going to win.

Binky
10-04-2006, 05:22 AM
One night, I nearly hit some idiot who did that. This guy was running along the sidewalk, and suddenly made a left turn in front of me. Keep in mind that it was kinda dark, rainy, and I didn't see him step out from between two telephone poles. I tried to stop, but even at 25-30mph on a wet road, there was no way I could stop in time, and I would still have knocked him into next week. It was *that* quick folks!


My boyfriend DID hit someone, like you it was at night, but we were coming around a blind corner and there were no lights (just the cars). THe guy was actually walking in the middle of the road, right in the middle of our lane, as we came round the corner the lights finnaly picked up the reflection of his white shoes, that was it, he was wearing BLACK! My boy had no time to stop becaue the blind corner meant we didn't see him till we were on top of him, the guy came through the windshield...only broke his leg and foot...guys damn lucky he didn't die! We were going 50-40 km/hr...people are just stupid!

repsac
10-04-2006, 06:47 AM
partly off topic, part on here.

Talking of Right of Way, I had to chuckle some while remembering a story I heard years ago. Being a railfan, this amused me then, but now considering the story it amuses me more.

Ever see street trackage? you know what I mean. Not just crossings, but rails that run right down the middle of the streets? This isn't something you see every day here in the states. Most of our railroads, save for a few locations, have done away with this. You'd think, that fact alone would make people pay more attention to where they park.

Sadly, this is not the case.

I forget the exact location it happened, but some years ago I remember hearing of a rather curious "dispute" over right of way, and it's ultimate solution.

Imagine if you will:

The railroad had been there long before any businesses. Now, it was something of an oddity. This one little siding which diverted down the middle of main street, through a parking lot, and into a small sorting yard. Ninety percent of the time, this particular section of track was only operated at night. It's purpose, to service a plastics company just beyond the sorting/storage yard. Now, while most of the traffic came at night, there were still some movements done during the day. Enough, that your average person was smart enough to avoid the right of way. At least, one hoped.

Monday, (whatever month, whatever year) was not a normal day. The plastics company needed a new piece of equipment, and for some strange reason the only time it could get there was during the day. Noon in fact. Right in the height of the biggest sale of the year.

The day before, the owners of the parkinglot, in conjunction with the railroad had gone to the trouble of barricading off the path through their lot. Large orange road barrels, cones, and caution tape marked off the route. The idea was sound, that customers upon seeing this would avoid that section and allow the train to pass.

One lady, had other plans.

Upon finding the lot full, she opted to park her car smack dab across the tracks. After having gone to the trouble of moving one of the cones and visibly cutting the caution tape. This was not discovered until the train was ground to a halt with its poor crew trying to sort out what to do. After a few moments of debating, considering to tow it and a few other things, the conductor was sent inside to find the owner.

She refused to come out. Flatly refused.

The police were called. It was one of those new electric locked doors, meaning they couldn't slimjim it, put the car in neutral and move it. A tow truck was called, but he couldn't get there. He, had been dispatched to a bad wreck two counties away. The crew, had a problem.

So, what did they do? Well their solution was rather simple, if destructive. Since the lady wouldn't move her car, they just ran it over. The locomotive, though moving slowly, squashed that car much like a coke can when stepped on by an irate child. The car was pushed along for some time, making a loud squaking sound as the tires caught the ground; leaving long treads of rubber. Before long, it ended up being flipped up, knocked over to the side and left like a child's broken toy.

The lady tried to sue the railroad, claiming she had the right to park there. She lost her case when it was proven she had moved the cones and cut the tape warning her not to be there.

As if to add insult to injury, the police ticketed her for "Impeding the process of a train." A rather nice 500 dollar fine at that.

AFpheonix
10-04-2006, 08:42 PM
To the first: as my husband likes to say, "Pedestrians have the right of way, but cars have the right of inertia."


Do you mean right of momentum? (mass x velocity) inertia involves how much force it takes to move something (mass x friction).

Sorry, I'll take my nerd hat off now :D

One-Fang
10-04-2006, 10:03 PM
Momentum provides force. :)

Kogarashi
10-05-2006, 03:16 AM
Do you mean right of momentum? (mass x velocity) inertia involves how much force it takes to move something (mass x friction).

Sorry, I'll take my nerd hat off now :D

Well, considering he's a nerd too and says "inertia," and considering I just looked it up (properties of moving something stopped or stopping something moving), I think it applies. But "momentum" would fit there too, yes. Inertia just sounds better.

Horsetuna
10-05-2006, 11:24 AM
As someone who's been nearly hit a few times, and actually hit once, I can't say how cautious I've become.

First time I remember being hit, it was just after sundown in summer, I was on my bike on the sidewalk. Cherokee pulls up, and stops. I dont see the driver but I slow, she doesnt move. okay, safe to pull ahead!

Moments later... ROAAAAR !*CRASH*

I had no helmet on.. I'm VERY lucky. I had been thrown off my bike and got bruises and scrapes. My bike had been twisted up under the vehicle - and if I was not thrown I would have been under there too I gander.

Luckily it all worked out. we made our police report and she replaced my bike. I didnt sue, cause it was half my fault for not WALKING my bike across.


SEcond incident was a few years later. I was walking on the sidewalk along the side of a one-way threeway, against traffic. I stop at a light... cop van pulls up. Cool. I admire their hotness through the window and notice how intently they are looking UP traffic.

Light turns green. I have the walk sign. BUT... they dont see me. I know they haven't as they never ONCE looked my way.

So I wait. And wait. Finally I think 'okay i'm going ahead."

But before I get a chance too, they PEELED out at full speed, turning AGAINST traffic and their lights and sirens go out.

Three police-vehicle takedown around one car right there in the middle of the street. O.o

That van would've ploughed over me. I'm VERY glad I never step in front of a vehicle unless I know they see me. I will instead go around the BACK fo the first vehicle or wait.

I was also nearly run down by some jerk in a sportscar once. I had to leaP BACK out of his way and gasped as he kept on going. JErk... guy crossing with me said I coulda gotten something out of that - I knew he meant money but i could only think of is 'I could've gotten killed!"

Third incident isnt' quite as dangerous. waiting for the light again, when i hear sirens. No big deal. Look that way to see what's going on. Miss my light too as I see another takedown - guns out and everything.

If that incident had been ten seconds later I would've been two feet away from where it was.


So yeah, NEVER presume the driver sees you. I'm a very lucky person to not be dead or hospitalized.

Acolyte
10-05-2006, 01:44 PM
As far as what to do with idiots that step out in front of you in a parking lot, I have the perfect answer, and it puts the fear of the automotive gods in them. (Warning: don't try this unless you are 1000000% SURE you won't mess up. Got that? Good.) What I usually do is leave my foot on the brake, drop the transmission into Neutral, and rev the engine. I've never had anybody ignore that (ESPECIALLY with a 4000+ lb Grand Cherokee sitting in front of them). :devil:

Ooh, I love doing that! I made a bunch of drunks staggering through the McHell's parking lot at 5:00 AM (When I started my shift...*sigh*) fall down and scatter when when they were standing around in the middle of the lot.

MadMike
10-05-2006, 06:32 PM
One night, I nearly hit some idiot who did that. This guy was running along the sidewalk, and suddenly made a left turn in front of me.

I had something like that happen once, except that it was two guys on bikes, and it was along a mini-expressway. They were riding on the shoulder, and I was in the right lane. Suddenly, one of the guys swerved right into my lane without even looking. I had to slam on the brakes and yank the wheel to the left to keep from hitting him. Then they had the nerve to look at me like I wasn't supposed to be there. I stuck my head out the window and screamed, "YOU STUPID FUCK!"

You might expect this to have been some stupid kids, but these were adults in their late 20s or early 30s -- clearly old enough to know better. One would wonder how they managed to live that long being that stupid.

Banrion
10-05-2006, 06:57 PM
One would wonder how they managed to live that long being that stupid.

Because people like YOU keep hitting the brakes and swerving into oncoming traffic risking your own life & limb, instead of doing these people a favor and putting them out of their misery.:angel:

MadMike
10-05-2006, 07:36 PM
Because people like YOU keep hitting the brakes and swerving into oncoming traffic risking your own life & limb, instead of doing these people a favor and putting them out of their misery.:angel:

True. And ironically, had I done the gene pool a favor by doing what you suggested, I'd be arrested. :shrug:

Casino Jockey
10-05-2006, 10:33 PM
My girlfriend used to cycle to work on a daily basis (my girlfriend also worked midnight - 8am)

One night she ws hit bya drunk on his way home. he had mounted the pavement, and unforunitly collected my girl before hitting a tree.

heres the results:
Me: quitting my job to be with my girl and help with her rehab.

Her: Shattered Hip, Broken leg, broken ankle, knee reconstruction, pins in her leg, Hip replacement (at 25). also broke her arm, and a few ribs. almost 4 months before she even walked again.

Driver: Car wrote off, pretty badly injured 2 years jail time.

Brighid45
10-06-2006, 01:19 AM
I hit a kid on a bike once. I was coming down a two-lane highway one fall afternoon, bringing my cat back from a visit to the vet. This kid was on my right, sort of meandering back and forth across the shoulder. I slowed way down because I had a feeling he didn't know I was there (thank GOD I did that). I didn't want to honk my horn and startle him, nor pass him just in case he decided to cross the highway. Sure enough, about 2 seconds later he cut right in front of me with about 5 feet to spare. I literally stood on my brakes and saw the kid disappear under the hood, felt the front wheels ride up on top of him even though I was only going about 20-25 mph and decelerating as well. I will never forget that sensation, nor the immediate thought burned into my brain: "I killed him. OMG, I killed him."

Fortunately, he was pretty scraped up but otherwise all right. The car went up on the bike and pinned him under it, then pushed both along the road for about six or seven feet. And the damn kid was more upset about his trashed bike than he was about being scraped from shoulder to hip!

He called his mom, I called 911, stayed until they came, and left my name, number and insurance company information. When my company called, they suggested we pay the claim and be done with it, so that's what happened. I talked with the kid's mom a few weeks later to see how he was doing. She said she was making him earn the money for his bike, since he caused the accident--even he said he had been stupid in not looking.

Ever since then, any time I drive and bike riders come up on either side, I get very, very nervous. :ashamed:

Luna
10-06-2006, 01:54 AM
Just a few days ago I almost hit an elderly couple in my apartment complex. It was night time. I was slowly backing out of my space. Two huge SUVs parked on either side of me, so all I could do was inch my lil cavalier out a bit at a time. Now let me say again - it's NIGHTTIME. You can see my brake lights from across the parking lot as almost none of the security lights in the complex work and the area is nearly pitch black.

I checked the front to see if I was clearing the SUVs, and when I looked back in the rearview - an elderly couple were standing BEHIND MY CAR.

I slammed on the brake with BOTH feet, heart stuck in my throat, immediate heartburn taste pouring into my mouth.

So what did they do? The guy crossed his arms over his chest and GLARED at me. The wife started yelling at me in a language I do not understand. Screaming at me and waving her arms frantically.

When I stopped shaking, I got mad. I rolled down my window and told them to move before I ran them down for real. The guy gasped and then pulled wife away, she was still screaming at me.

Why on earth would you see the only car in the parking lot with it's break lights on, at night, backing up and decide to not only walk behind it - but then STOP directly behind it? :eek:

ArenaBoy
10-06-2006, 02:27 AM
I commute to school and I am very tempted to clean the gene pool a bit. This morning, a guy stops in the middle of the road to talk to his friend for 1 minute.

Then there's the numerous times I've almost hit people because they walk out right in front of me and THEY glare at me when I'm sitting there freaking out.

protege
10-06-2006, 12:56 PM
Just last night, I nearly clipped two idiots walking in the *middle* of the road near the local mall. It was dark, they were wearing mostly black...and I couldn't see them until I got within about a foot behind them. As if that wasn't enough, they were pushing a baby stroller! When they saw me, they gave *me* the nasty looks. Yeah, screw *you* too!

Cia
10-06-2006, 06:27 PM
A couple of years ago I almost took out an entire family. On Disk Drive there are no street lights except what comes from the billboards, no sidewalk - just a path on a hill and it does an S-curve from the Mall to Haines Avenue. Okay, so I was going around the first S-curve when all of a sudden there were 5 people, 1 in a wheelchair, all in dark clothes right in my lane. Talk about swerving quickly to the left. Luckily no one was in the left lane because I would either have hit them or the idiots in the street.

Why the city hasn't put in a sidewalk yet, the Mall has been there since the late 70's, I don't know but usually around here somebody has to die first before the city gets off their collective a$$es and does something about it.

CrazedClerk
10-07-2006, 12:32 AM
I got hit this summer while biking, fortunately save for a scraped elbow and cut shin, I was fine. I even went to work after. But this woman was making a right turn, she HAD a STOP and didn't even SLOW DOWN. Anyway after it happened she got out of the car and was all apologetic. The first thing I said was "usually when people see a Stop sign, they stop". I'm not sure if she hear me or not and the kicker, this woman worked for the local Police services. She wasn't a cop, but worked for the police doing something.

Oh and one in a grocery store, I had some SC who was paying NO attention to where he was going, slam his cart right into my knee/shin at pretty much full speed. I grunted loudly and gave him a nasty glare, he just looked at me said bluntly "oh, sorry.".

Not "oh my god I'm so sorry" or "I didn't see you there" or "are you ok?". I was right in plain view and he smacked into me. What in the hell is wrong with people?

Mighty Girl
10-14-2006, 04:00 AM
Oh geez! They should be happy you didn't run their asses over, not everyone would have been so accomodating....:D

I've run into people like that- in fact, the last time my husband went to the grocery store with me, I nearly had to smack some old wench who was just being obnoxious.

We were loading our stuff on the belt, and she kept "bumping into" my husband. She was older than dirt, smelled, clearly overdue for a good denture soaking....so he said "excuse me" to alert her to the fact that she was being an ass.

Naturally she turned it around and said he was trying to block her from being able to load her stuff, that she didn't "injure" him, etc. DH is a really really chivalrous guy- and plus, she was old, so he was just really hesitant to tell her what she could do with her cart. I'm not that nice- assholes come in all shapes, sizes and ages, just because they're old doesn't mean they can treat people like pond scum. I asked him several times to switch places with me, he refused (he knew I'd rip into her). So then it's finally time for us to leave, and I made my way around him and told her, "You got off easy, my husband feels sorry for old women even if they are gnarly bitches, but if you ever get your cart that close to ME- I'll hit you so hard with it, it'll have to be surgically removed". I was about 2 inches from her face when I said it, and she just looked at me.

I saw her again a week or so later at the store, I was there alone, and any time I started down the aisle she was in, she turned around and went another way. I never saw her again.

Binky
10-15-2006, 12:35 AM
Why the city hasn't put in a sidewalk yet, the Mall has been there since the late 70's, I don't know but usually around here somebody has to die first before the city gets off their collective a$$es and does something about it.

You know how I said my bf hit someone, well that was the final straw for the locals, they had been asking the council to close down the pub about 100m from that blind corner for YEARS and it took someone almost being killed on that corner for them to close it down. It really has to be someone dieing/getting serously hurt before they will do something....because it means effort and money they don't want to use up...common..why do you think people enjoy those sort of jobs...you don't have to do anything when you don't want too

Kogarashi
10-15-2006, 01:13 AM
We had a busy street outside a building I worked in back in Utah. Main thoroughfare for the area, and a good four blocks with no crosswalk or traffic lights. I occasionally had to run errands from the office building I worked in to the print shop on the other side of the street. Since both were located in the middle of this 4-block stretch, it was a pain in the butt to try to complete this errand. It took too long to walk all the way to the corner, wait for the crosswalk signal (on a timer), walk all the way to the print shop, walk all the way back, wait again, and walk all the way to the office building. So instead I took my life in my hands and jaywalked across the street (or, rather, jayran). That street was four lanes wide, two in either direction, with a few on-street parking spaces directly in front of the print shop making a fifth "lane."

I asked my supervisor about it once, and she explained that the city wasn't going to put in a crosswalk in the middle of the street until somebody actually got hit by a car.

heather124
10-15-2006, 01:52 AM
Anyway a lady comes out of the exit, we follow her to her car in hopes of grabbing her spot. She just hops in and sits in her car for a few minutes


My mom ALWAYS did this when I was growing up. If she saw someone following her for a spot she would make sure she got in the car...check all the mirrors...make me get out to make sure the headlights and brake lights were working, adjust her hair, put on her lipstick..anything to make the person wait. I don't know what her deal was but she didn't want to give up a spot if she knew someone was waiting. It used to embarrass me to death as a kid.