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RecoveringKinkoid
10-25-2006, 06:47 PM
Many of you are familiar with my hatred of playing twenty questions just to buy something. In short, I dont' give out personal info, such as my phone number, at cash registers. I am not sucky about it, but I will politely decline. Sometimes I ask what they want with it.

Babies R Us is one of the worst. Everytime I go in there, I make a game of asking what it will be used for. I have asked about 5 different occasions. I have about 5 different answers. :rolleyes:

You know, they could just be honest and come out and say they are going to sell it to a Direct Marketing list. I mean, they still won't get it, but at least I'd respect their honesty.

So last night, I'm ringing out, and there were two young girls there...one doing the cashiering and one kind of hanging out. (the store wasn't particularly busy.)

Cashier 1: Phone number starting with area code, please.
Me: And what will that be used for?
Cashier (looking suprised. They always do when I ask that.) Um...I am not sure. (looks to cashier 2, the one hanging out, for support.)
Cashier 2: Its so they can send out coupons.
Me: :headscratch: Coupons?
C2: Yes.
Me: They are sending coupons through the MAIL using my phone number?
C2: Yes.
Me::wtf: (at this point, I just give her a disgusted look.
C2: They do.
Me: (dismissing her and loading my stuffon the belt.) Please.

I didn't give them my number and they at least had enough brains to not ask for it again.

What is it about 17 year olds (no offense to any 17 year olds on here) who think that people become stupider as they age? If a person reaches the height of their intellectual superiority at 17, then why should they become stupider as the years roll past? Ptah. Wow, how did I ever reach my forties without ever knowing that I could jot a phone number down on an envelope, drop it into the mail, and have it get where it needs to go? I bet I've been wasting money on stamps, too. Probably Hello Kitty stickers would work just as well.

Well, it's just as well, I was home all day alone, so I hadn't gotten my Recommended Daily Allowance of Smartass Kid. So good thing I ran into one.

I am sure Babies R Us has an entire department full of people who do nothing else all day except cross-reference phone numbers on the internet so they can get the mailing addresses they REALLY want but are too shy to ask for. Then they shred the phone numbers to keep them out of Direct Marketing hands. :wave:

MadMike
10-25-2006, 06:57 PM
I don't give mine out either, unless it's absolutely needed. For example, if I'm having something delivered, they might need to call me if they get lost.

However, they do not need it for the pack of batteries I'm buying at the store and taking with me. Like you, I don't get an attitude about it, I just politely tell them I don't give it out. If they insist, then they get the number of the voicemail system at my job. Back when I still had a second line used solely for my dialup, I'd give them that number. I've been wanting to find the number for a telemarketing company and start giving that out, but I've never gotten around to it.

Funny you mentioned Babies R Us. I've never been there, but I have been to Toys R Us several times, and they're the worst ones about the phone number thing. One time, like you, I asked what they needed it, and the answer I got was, "It's store policy."

OK... that's not what I asked. I chose not to make a big deal of it, because I'm sure the cashier was only doing what she was told, and I didn't want to hold up the long line. I gave her the number for my second line, mentioning that "no one can reach a live person at that number anyway." She looked kind of annoyed, for some reason.

HappyCthulhu
10-25-2006, 07:07 PM
I always use (my area code) 555-1212
That's the # for toll free info.
Good luck to any telemarketer that calls me there.:devil:

Kika
10-25-2006, 07:20 PM
Me: They are sending coupons through the MAIL using my phone number?

Yup. They use your phone records to get your address from the reverse phone directory. It's also how they track you on how often you shop there.

This is not a defense for the policy, BTW. My store just does the same thing, and since I HATE giving out private info myself, I called Corporate once to find out how it works. We also get in trouble if we don't "capture" enough numbers. Bleck.

And in my book, since you didn't give the cashier a lecture on privacy laws etc., you were not a sucky customer. (I lose 30 minutes daily listening to why someone has the right to not give me a number, instead of just saying "no thank you.")

You can imagine how much my managers hate me, because I just don't CARE about the "capture" rate. ;)

Kogarashi
10-25-2006, 07:21 PM
The only time I've had to ask for a customer's phone number, it's been for check verification purposes. I'm not entirely sure why the register prompts, but it only does it for some checks (usually the same ones that ask for an ID#), and I think it has something to do with how the bank tells that a legit person is using the checks. Only one customer so far has told me she doesn't give out her phone number, and when I explained that it's for the check verification, she recited it to me softly so I could punch it into the register (and subsequently forget about it). I highly doubt Wal-Mart's register system is sophisticated enough to collect these phone numbers for later selling or something. :shrug:

Kika
10-25-2006, 07:24 PM
I forgot to add - Corporate told me that if the customers say no when you ask once, you cannot ask again. Legalities and all.

draftermatt
10-25-2006, 07:29 PM
http://www.rejectionhotline.com/

You can get a number for your area. Just give that out.

ALABAMA
334-541-0107
ARKANSAS
501-340-3896
ARIZONA
602-230-4210
CALIFORNIA
310-217-7638 (Los Angeles)
916-733-1550 (Sacramento)
858-492-8002 (San Diego)
415-356-9833 (San Francisco)
408-236-2060 (San Jose)
COLORADO
303-607-7527
D.C. (Washington DC)
202-452-7468
FLORIDA
352-475-6679 (Gainesville)
904-879-8012 (Jacksonville)
305-241-0033 (Miami)
407-338-0036 (Orlando)
407-970-8278 (Orlando)
813-273-8160 (Tampa)
561-986-0035
321-844-0033
954-287-0023
GEORGIA
706-335-0511 (Athens)
770-908-7383 (Atlanta)
ILLINOIS
773-509-5027
INDIANA
317-332-0670
IOWA
641-985-7888
KANSAS
785-875-3188
KENTUCKY
270-735-1622
MAINE
Temporarily Unavailable
Check Back Soon
MASSACHUSETTS
617-861-3962 (Boston)
413-351-2684
508-556-3549
781-654-2925
978-364-8939
MARYLAND
410-347-1488
MICHIGAN
248-262-6861
MINNESOTA
612-232-1638
MISSOURI
314-359-3930 (St. Louis)
417-326-2677 (Springfield)
MISSISSIPPI
601-792-4440
NEBRASKA
402-827-9874 (Lincoln)
402-434-6535 (Omaha)
NEVADA
702-386-5397
NEW HAMPSHIRE
603-413-2340
NEW JERSEY
973-409-3011
NEW MEXICO
505-310-2496
NEW YORK
212-660-2245 (New York City)
516-730-7245 (Long Island)
718-971-5245
845-259-2245
914-269-4245
518-935-4012 (Albany)
315-682-1822 (Syracuse)
716-357-2127 (Buffalo)
NORTH CAROLINA
828-859-2905
704-264-2861 (Charlotte)
OHIO
216-269-0085 (Cleveland)
419-452-6002
440-328-3382
OKLAHOMA
918-649-1711
OREGON
503-450-9938
PENNSYLVANIA
215-618-1505 (Philly)
814-337-4101 (Penn State)
RHODE ISLAND
401-648-6543
SOUTH CAROLINA
803-358-0885
TENNESSEE
901-328-8380 (Memphis)
615-346-2800 (Nashville)
TEXAS
512-647-4813 (Austin)
972-504-6270 (Dallas)
817-326-1433 (Ft. Worth)
713-866-6249 (Houston)
210-893-7109 (San Antonio)
UTAH
801-296-7163
VIRGINIA
703-912-1725
WASHINGTON
206-376-9798 (Seattle)
Spokane - Coming Soon)
WASHINGTON DC
202-452-7468
WISCONSIN
414-243-1102

RecoveringKinkoid
10-25-2006, 07:33 PM
"I've been wanting to find the number for a telemarketing company and start giving that out, but I've never gotten around to it."

Oooh. Brilliant. :devil:

Nah, I see no reason to give the cashier a hard time. Likely she's just as keen to move me through and see me on my way as I am. The only time I ever went into a bona fide complaint to one was once I was in Lowes and I noticed the cashier's tag said "Manager" on it. And on a previous visit, the cashier had wanted to argue with me about my refusal to give it up. I wasn't nasty to him, but I let him know that as a customer, I found it offensive to be continually harrassed for private information when all I wanted was to check out. He was pretty nice, actually. He said if that ever happened again, tell the cashier to punch in all fives. He said the cashiers aren't supposed to be persistant like that.

Didn't know the cashiers have "quotas." That is unfortunate, but I'm still not giving out that info. I will if I'm trying to pay with a check or something, or if I'm having something delivered, or something like that. But otherwise, not gonna happen.

I won't give out a fake number, either. I want it very obvious I refused to comply so I don't give the impression I'm okay with it.

Kika
10-25-2006, 07:43 PM
We have a "Customer Data Not Available" button - I love it.

And it's not a cashier quota - it's a store quota, so most of the time the cashier is just told "you NEED to get the number, just keep asking" so the store looks good.

RecoveringKinkoid
10-25-2006, 07:49 PM
Actually, I was supremely sucky in store once for this very reason. The cashier wouldn't take no for an answer. She wanted to argue, and then said, "Well, I can't ring you up without it." So I said. "Oh. Okay." and cheerfully walked out leaving about 200 bucks worth of crap on the belt.

That time, I did call the manager and let him know what I'd done and why. If that was his policy, he needed to know his policy sucked. If his cashier sucked, well, he needed to know that, too.

Yeah, it was sucky. I was pregnant and cranky. Sue me. :o

Rapscallion
10-25-2006, 08:16 PM
Reminds me of a time when a computer store somewhat near me thought they would be really clever and make everyone give their information - address, telephone number, etc, for any and all purposes.

Bear in mind that this was about a decade ago or so... 486's were hot dogs back then, and pentiums were a gleam in a chip developer's eye.

Friend of mine went in, and he was purchasing a decent video card. They insisted on knowing his name, address, phone number etc.

"This is cash. This is product. I am going to swap one for the other. If you insist on getting that information, you are getting neither cash nor information."

He got his card with no more questions asked.

Rapscallion

Kika
10-25-2006, 08:16 PM
Actually, I was supremely sucky in store once for this very reason. The cashier wouldn't take no for an answer. She wanted to argue, and then said, "Well, I can't ring you up without it." So I said. "Oh. Okay." and cheerfully walked out leaving about 200 bucks worth of crap on the belt.

Good for you. I got a manager fired for insisting that I tell people I couldn't ring them up without a number, which I refused, pointing out the "Customer Data Not Available" button.

She sent me home for insubordination, I called the District Manager from the parking lot. I never saw her again.

kzc
10-25-2006, 08:20 PM
I won't give out a fake number, either. I want it very obvious I refused to comply so I don't give the impression I'm okay with it.

Exactly, although giving information that's obviously fake sends pretty much the same message. I've found that giving "Bosch, Hieronymous", "I don't have a phone", and "99999" for name, phone and zip code lets the cashier off the hook while also clearly expressing my desire to retain my privacy.

Of course, half the time I then pay by credit card and they get whatever info they want anyway.

officegirl
10-25-2006, 08:20 PM
http://www.rejectionhotline.com/

You can get a number for your area. Just give that out.

Lol, that is hilarious! I'm going to memorize it and start giving it out to unwanted interest :)

opscaddy
10-25-2006, 09:08 PM
Okay, so I've never posted before, but I felt like I could add to this discussion in a semi-productive manner. ;)

Anyway, when I worked for Circuit City, we collected phone numbers, addresses, etc., and if you lost your receipt or needed to look up a plan purchase or needed a receipt for an insurance claim ten years after your purchase, that was the info we used to look it up. We were told the lists were not sold, which I believe (I had an 'alter ego' I used for non-employee purchases, using my real address and phone #, and a fake name, and never got anything from anybody to that name), and it did make it awfully handy when someone needed to have anything looked up. I kinda miss that system; I could find ANYTHING, given time. :) Anyway, if people didn't want to give their info (we were prompted for all purchases over $100, no matter the pay type), we used the store's phone number. That purchase history was loooooong, heh. If people asked about it, I told them what I knew - we need that info so we can look up your purchase if you ever need it. If they didn't care, that was fine with me. They didn't 'track' us to see how many we got, as far as I know.

Yeah, long story for no purpose, first post no less. Sorry! :(

Sofar
10-25-2006, 09:16 PM
I give my telephone number out as CApitol 7-2007, which technically is correct*, seeing as we still use the old exchanges in this city. Using the old exchange confuses anybody who's asking long enough for me to make my escape.

You know, you can buy telephone directories organized by number rather than name, with which you can look up someone's address by their telephone number. Or you could just use Google.

*Not really my telephone number.

Lace Neil Singer
10-25-2006, 09:26 PM
I always handed out 770 5519; write it down, hold it up to the light the other way round, and guess what it says? I was a very disturbed teenager.

Gurndigarn
10-25-2006, 10:09 PM
Around here, you ususally get bugged for zip codes-- they're doing marketing. I have no problems with you doing marketing... but I really hate any intrusive marketing.

I just lie. I figure, if marketing info is off enough, they might stop doing it.

Yeah, where's that "pigs flying" smileycon?

Raerlynn
10-25-2006, 10:25 PM
Give em 867 5309.

Cookies to whoever gets the reference.

Hempress
10-25-2006, 10:30 PM
:lol: Make sure you say your name is Jenny.

Imogene
10-26-2006, 12:04 AM
I always use (my area code) 555-1212
That's the # for toll free info.
Good luck to any telemarketer that calls me there.:devil:

Um?
555 is a made up prefix, or so I thought...? Used in movies, and nothing else...

Hempress
10-26-2006, 12:17 AM
Actually, 555-1212 is a real number that's like 411. Just directory info.

Seanette
10-26-2006, 12:29 AM
Around here, you ususally get bugged for zip codes-- they're doing marketing. I have no problems with you doing marketing... but I really hate any intrusive marketing.
I don't see a zip code as intrusive, given that there are thousands of people in my zip code.

tenzilkem
10-26-2006, 12:34 AM
I give em the number of a dead celphone I have...might be evil for whom ever has that # now...but no way am I giving my # unless I have to

Cyanocobalamin
10-26-2006, 01:02 AM
I always handed out 770 5519

Took me a minute to figure this one out.

VERY clever :devil:

I like using the name "Anna Nymous" and a nonsense address for websites
that insist on having my information when they don't really need it.

Gurndigarn
10-26-2006, 01:15 AM
Give em 867 5309.

Cookies to whoever gets the reference.

Chicago song, IIRC.

I don't see a zip code as intrusive, given that there are thousands of people in my zip code.

It's not that I'm ticked about giving out personal infomation. It's that I'm ticked about being asked for any information.

It's pretty simple. I want to get in. I want to be able to find stuff relatively easily. I want to be able to check out relatively quickly. I don't mind them asking me if I have a frequent shopper card (no, I refuse to clutter up my wallet, thanks). But I do mind them asking for any information not needed for the transaction. ANY information. I'm usually thinking about the day, or what I'm going to do next, or how to solve a problem... I don't want to be distracted. Period.

Kika
10-26-2006, 01:22 AM
Give em 867 5309.

Somebody did that to me. He gave me the correct area code, and then 867-5309 with a totally straight face.

And of course, I didn't think to call him Jenny until two minutes after he walked out of the store.

RecoveringKinkoid
10-26-2006, 02:01 AM
I was going to respond, but Gurndigarn said pretty much ver batum what I was going to say.

Remember the last time you were in a store that did this with a line ahead of you. Now imagine how much faster you'd be out of there if they would just cut the crap and ring you up.

I'm not there to participate in a poll. I'm there to give someone some money, take my goods, and go. I don't mind a little chit chat while the transaction is taking place. But let's not add to the transaction time by asking irrelevant questions.

DesignFox
10-26-2006, 02:46 AM
I don't mind the zip code or phone number thing too much- mainly because the places I shop at, I don't mind getting coupons from! I do find that places will skip it no problem if you decline giving the information...I know my BF never gives any personal info- even his zipcode- and the cashiers we've dealt with just punched in the zip for the store.

Waldenbooks has a great frequent shopper card. It is free and all they need from you is a phone number with NO area code, so they can't call, but they can still find you if you forget your card. I think they ask for an email address to; I don't remember if that was optional or not, but if you want coupons thats how you get them. I thought that was a great way to get people to have a card, without making them feel like they were being rounded up for future marketers to find.

Spiffy McMoron
10-26-2006, 03:37 AM
Okay, so I've never posted before, but I felt like I could add to this discussion in a semi-productive manner. ;)

Hey, don't worry about it! I thought that it was a mighty fine first post. And don't worry about productivity-I haven't been productive in years! :D

Anyways, I've been asked for my phone number before, and that's OK-I was never bothered with telemarketers of any sort. I have asked for people's addresses, but that was when I was returning something-and we do that do ensure that people aren't scamming us by returning over # of times or over # of dollars.

Irving Patrick Freleigh
10-26-2006, 03:41 AM
Give em 867 5309.

Cookies to whoever gets the reference.

"Jenny, I got your number, I need to make you mine...."

Tommy Tutone, one of the great 80s one-hit wonders. I have that song on my computer.

lordlundar
10-26-2006, 05:49 AM
This is why I love being a Canuck. The privacy act actually prohibits this activity. We are only allowed to ask for a name and number for database reference (ie for a Service plan).

Banrion
10-26-2006, 12:35 PM
http://www.rejectionhotline.com/

You can get a number for your area. Just give that out.


The same group also have a few numbers called "Telemarketer's Nightmare for the New England area.

http://www.rejectionhotline.com/telemarketers.php

This is super funny too, and it's long, so it really wastes their time.:roll:

ThinMick
10-26-2006, 07:19 PM
Totally off topic, but one of our local stations was doing an interview with the guy who started the rejection hotline, this morning. Says he realised he needed to hand the day-to-day dealings over to someone else when he noticed that he wasn't returning emails from MTV and Virgin.

On topic, I usually just give out one of the local loopback lines. Drives people batshit.

Cia
10-26-2006, 07:29 PM
I usually use 307-555-1212 - Wyoming information number.

I saw a woman throw a hissy fit in Walden's when they asked her for her telephone number w/o area code and an e-mail address so that they could start her membership card. She kept saying over and over "I don't want them calling me - I don't give out my number". Lady they can't find you without the area code. After she finally took a breathe I said to her "Yea, more discounts for me." The sales ladies giggled. The lady didn't get her membership card and she left in a huff.

rdp78
10-27-2006, 02:23 AM
Well, I don't have too much of a problem with giving out my zip code or well even my phone number (actually it's our answering machine's line which no one really answers). I'm thinking maybe I should stop giving out that phone number and start giving out a fake one or refuse too. Now if they start asking for my full name or even my SSN yeah, I'm going to have problem since I'm hoping that's illegal to do that (unless it's something nessaccary like filling out a doctor's form). Well, I'm kind of glad that store I work for doesn't ask any info from customers unless they are paying by check.

Luna
10-27-2006, 06:38 AM
When I'm feeling particularly annoyed and/or the cashier is being rude about wanting me to dispure my personal information - I give out the second line at my mother-in-laws house. If she's been mean to me, or we've fought/argued recently I give out her main line. :devil: The woman has had the same phone number in let's see...hubby is going to be 36 next year and they moved to NJ when he was 12?

Yes, that long.

If it's for some sort of discount shopper card - I ask for a copy of their privacy policy. I understand that sometimes getting discounts means you're going to get junk mail from co-companies in return, but if I read they're selling to anyone who is buying, I'll then go back and cancel said card. I don't care about junk mail - but I don't want to be called.

Sofar
10-27-2006, 07:52 AM
You could always give them (212) 637-8463, or MERTIME, the old New York date and time line. I think it still works.

Becks
10-27-2006, 02:33 PM
Hmmmmmmmmm...I wonder if I can remember the phone number for an asshat of an ex-bf that doesn't live in this state...

:devil:

Spiffy McMoron
10-27-2006, 03:25 PM
One more thing that I forgot to put into my previous post

They will use your phone number to track where you live-but it's not for nefarious purposes. they will use the information that they've gathered to see where the people that go to their store live, and they will use that information to see where eould be the most efficent to build another store-why cannablize from one store, when you can build it ten block further, and attract #### more new shoppers? Also, the companies try to get the same infromation from competing stores and will try to build close to them, in the hopes of stealing their sales.

Thank you Human Geography course!

XCashier
10-27-2006, 04:42 PM
They will use your phone number to track where you live-but it's not for nefarious purposes. they will use the information that they've gathered to see where the people that go to their store live, and they will use that information to see where eould be the most efficent to build another store-
Wouldn't the zip code work better, then? My phone area code covers many zip codes.

Dreamstalker
10-27-2006, 06:50 PM
That's what I would think too. The only thing in a phone number that's geographically useful is the area code.

Computer stores and online ordering I give my real number. Anything/one else, such as political droids downtown, gets my old freshman dorm number which was probably deactivated the day I moved out (exchange remains the same, but the suffixes are juggled around every year).

Auto
10-27-2006, 07:41 PM
Chicago song, IIRC.



It's not that I'm ticked about giving out personal infomation. It's that I'm ticked about being asked for any information.

It's pretty simple. I want to get in. I want to be able to find stuff relatively easily. I want to be able to check out relatively quickly. I don't mind them asking me if I have a frequent shopper card (no, I refuse to clutter up my wallet, thanks). But I do mind them asking for any information not needed for the transaction. ANY information. I'm usually thinking about the day, or what I'm going to do next, or how to solve a problem... I don't want to be distracted. Period.

My thinking too. If I'm in a bad mood and not in a rush, I simply don't cooperate. No showing ID either, if I'm paying with a CC.

If I'm in a rush, the phone number I give out is 202-456-1414. That's the main number for the white house.

jb17kx
10-27-2006, 09:22 PM
It's common practice for tourist attractions and big-ticket retail stores aroundhere to ask for post code, for the aforementioned reason.

However, just recently, I was struck with an idea after watching a certain television show. And I was able to use it not long after...

I was being quite aggresivly persued for a phone number for a purchase at a shop where I was going to carry out and had no intention of requiring service... But I wasn't getting the sale untill I handed over a phone number.

So I pulled out a little slip of paper from my wallet and recited the following number:

0118 999 881 999 119 725 3

Australian phone numbers are only 8 digits long (or 10 with the area code, one for the whole state), so naturally it didn't fit into the computer. The cow behind the counter insisten on my giving her one that would fit, but she couldn't, with my strong accent, refute the fact that I was from England, so she just lopped off the last 12 digits and I was on my way.

For those who don't get the refference in that phone number, this clip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbYK1eLPdIc) is for you.

FloridaLizardQueen
10-28-2006, 01:31 AM
I have had people ask me for my email address when I am checking out to which I reply that I don't have one.

RecoveringKinkoid
10-28-2006, 03:50 AM
How about eatme@mindyourowndamnbusiness.com?

I'm with Rapscallion on this one. You either ring me up or not, but you ain't getting an sort of numbers from me. Anyone tells you they won't ring you up without a number doesn't want your money anyway.

counterjockey
10-30-2006, 06:23 AM
http://www.rejectionhotline.com/

You can get a number for your area. Just give that out.

\IOWA
641-985-7888


Of course I had to look this up. Now, Iowa isn't known for its nightlife per se, but there are three big college towns (Ames, Waterloo/Cedar Falls, Iowa City) and a number of pretty good size cities (Des Moines, Quad Cities, Cedar Rapids) where you're likely to find chicks in bars who would often find the rejection number idea useful.

The area code and local exchange put this in Riceville, IA http://maps.google.com/maps?oi=map&q=Riceville,+IA.
Up near the Minnesota line, home of a grain elevator, a couple gas stations, and a couple hundred people who wouldn't mind living somewhere besides fucking Riceville. Probably not that many of whom go to bars where they'd feel the need to hand out the number to the rejection line.

Am I a hopeless dork for looking into this?


Oh. About the 867-5309 thing, I have been asked for my number before, and I have thought of giving 867-5309. My problem is that I couldn't possibly say it without saying "five-three-oh-niiiieeeeeeiiiiiinnnnnneeee..."

AFpheonix
10-30-2006, 10:40 PM
On the other hand, people get all tweaky about giving info out for legitimate purposes, namely getting prescriptions. I need your info especially if you're getting narcotics. Otherwise, I can't fill, since I want to make sure that you're not pharmacy and doctor shopping.

I've also had people tweak because their insurance ID# is their social, and they don't want to give that to me. Apparently I'm a nefarious tech that's going to steal your information. I just tell them how much it's going to cost, and depending on how much of a tightwad they are, they pay up or give me their social. These people I tend to advise to call the insurance company to change to an non-SS number. Most are going that way, anyways.

Oh yes, and then there's the middle aged ladies who get torqued if you use their birthday as a validation tool before selling them their script. Good lord woman, nobody cares!

Pagan
11-01-2006, 01:24 AM
Wouldn't the zip code work better, then? My phone area code covers many zip codes.

I was thinking the same thing. Right now, my area code covers the whole state! With many, many zip codes.

Soon (1 to 5 years, depending on who you talk to), we're going to need a second area code and we're trying to figure out who get it. It's boiled down to one good idea (geographical split) and one stupid idea (new #s get the new area code. That's right folks, you might need to dial the area code to call next door!).

protege
11-01-2006, 04:20 AM
That's right folks, you might need to dial the area code to call next door!).

We're already at that point in Pittsburgh. For years, the entire SW PA region had one area code, 412. But, some years ago, a second area code (724) was added for all phone numbers outside of town. Even if it's a call next door, we still have to dial the 1 + the area code. Even with multiple exchanges in the 412 code, with all the new cell numbers, fax lines, etc. there weren't enough.

TheRoo
11-01-2006, 06:34 AM
Actually, you can tell the general area within an area code that a phone number is from based on the three digit exchange. When I answer the phone at the pizza place, and see the number on caller ID, I generally have a good idea of where they are.

One of the other drivers was looking over my shoulder last night when I answered the phone, and he told me they will need to call the XYZ store. When I asked for their address, it was about four blocks from XYZ store.

kerrisan
11-01-2006, 06:53 PM
You should give your phone number as 212-479-7990 :devil:

Sure, they probably won't call it, but somebody will someday and it may just give them a great laugh.

If you don't know what it is . . . call it! :angel:

Spiffy McMoron
11-01-2006, 07:54 PM
Wouldn't the zip code work better, then? My phone area code covers many zip codes.

They can find your address using the phone number-and your specific address is more useful than just the zip/postal code alone. Plus, I think that the fact that more people know their phone number compared to their phone number may have something to do with it too.

Lindsay
11-04-2006, 02:25 AM
I have a sorta funny story about the zip code thing. I live in Canada. Border city so I shop in the States fairly frequently. I don't even remember what store it was, but the cashier asked for a zip code.

Me: Oh I don't live here, it won't work.
Cashier: It doesn't matter if you live here. It's the same everywhere.
Me: No really. I'm from Canada. It probably won't let you do it.
Cashier: Just try me.

I was in a good mood and decided to do so. The cashier was a little surprised when I rattled off a postal code that started with an N.

JustAGirl
11-06-2006, 02:38 AM
Give em 867 5309.

Cookies to whoever gets the reference.

YAY i want chocolate chip!

That's what I think I'm gonna do too if they ask.

Cashier: Number please
Me: I'd rather not give it out.
Cashier: we need it for X purpose
Me: Well... *sigh* um, 8675309
Cashier: area code?
Me: **looks at other half** area code? 717 sound good? OK 7178675309

so hopefully they'll know it isn't a real number haha

Plus, I think that the fact that more people know their phone number compared to their phone number may have something to do with it too.

:confused: er, might want to edit that bit, eh?

lately I've been asked for the zip, which I'll gladly give. Not phone number though unless they need it for warranty or other purposes

Sofar
11-06-2006, 06:44 AM
Actually, you can tell the general area within an area code that a phone number is from based on the three digit exchange.

That's because your city probably still uses the old exchanges, like we do here. It used to be that the first two or three digits of your exchange were the first two or three letters of your neighborhood. Here Queen Anne Hill is 783, or QUeen Anne 3, Capitol Hill is 227 or CApitol 7, West Seattle is 937 or WEst Seattle 7, and so on. A lot of exchanges have been added since those days, so generally you'll only find an old exchange on an older house, newer exchanges don't always correspond to the neighborhood.

Sunsetsky
11-06-2006, 08:19 PM
With some checks at walmart, we are required to put a telephone number into the computer...otherwise it won't go through. I found out that the reason we take telephone numbers is so the store can call them for surveys. No wonder we get bad ratings at our store. Most of the customers are probably pissed off from getting phone calls at home.

RecoveringKinkoid
11-07-2006, 01:04 PM
Oh, the ones that insist are the worst. If I say "I prefer not to give that out" and they want to tell me they "need it" or that their "register needs it" I usually respond with a curt "No, you don't" or "tell your register to make do."

Don't freaking argue with me when I tell you I prefer not to give out my phone number. :mad: You are not going to talk me into doing something I don't want to do. Man, that annoys me.

One or two occasions I've actually responded with "can I have yours?":devil:

protege
11-07-2006, 03:33 PM
Oh, the ones that insist are the worst. If I say "I prefer not to give that out" and they want to tell me they "need it" or that their "register needs it" I usually respond with a curt "No, you don't" or "tell your register to make do."

I actually had someone refuse to sell me a pack of batteries at Radio Shack when I told him I wasn't giving out my details.

What many of those companies do, is they'll compile that info for "marketing purposes." In reality, they'll usually sell it on to another company, who will then do the same. All of these companies will then bombard you with crapmail and/or spam. A prime example of this are realtors. No sooner had I signed off on my house...when I got offers from at least a dozen moving companies. What happened, was that the realty firm compiles a list of houses they sell, and then pass along that info. I got the last laugh though--I got my neighbors' truck and moved everything myself :devil:

If you *have* to give an address, use one like 1313 Mockingbird Lane, Mockingbird Heights, plus zip. That's the address of the Munsters, BTW. Half the people behind the counter won't even realize it :p

MystyGlyttyr
11-07-2006, 03:47 PM
I usually give them the area code of 619 (San Diego but more importantly, Rey Mysterio's call number!) and the number of 328-7448. Since we're in Arkansas, I figure most people don't bother with that.

Those numbers spell something. I won't post what but let's just say, if you don't like my driving, call 1-800....

(I actually did call that number once just to see what it was. I got a recording about puppies for sale from 2004. Weird.)

RecoveringKinkoid
11-07-2006, 10:00 PM
"I actually had someone refuse to sell me a pack of batteries at Radio Shack when I told him I wasn't giving out my details."

Yeah, I'm sure that Radio Shack is so setting the world on fire with their sales they can blithely turn away customers, right? What an idiot! You probably should have done the Standard Sucky Customer thing and demanded the guy's manager. I would have still not purchased batteries from them, but I would have let the manager know what his idiot employee was doing.

Ask sometime what they need that info for next time you get the question anywhere. You'll get all sorts of half-assed excuses, but not a ONE of them will admit they sell it for marketing purposes. Oh, that's what it ultimately is for, but they would rather have their toenails pulled out with pliers than admit it.

MadMike
11-09-2006, 08:22 PM
From what I've seen, the Radio Shacks in my area stopped doing that ages ago. I remember them asking for all kinds of info years ago, but it hasn't happened recently.

Guess the realized that pissing off customers was actually a bad thing.

Gurndigarn
11-10-2006, 01:30 AM
From what I've seen, the Radio Shacks in my area stopped doing that ages ago. I remember them asking for all kinds of info years ago, but it hasn't happened recently.

Guess the realized that pissing off customers was actually a bad thing.

IIRC, they actually advertised (on TV?) that they stopped doing that.

Ree
11-11-2006, 02:04 PM
I understand that people are protective of their phone numbers, but on our old computer system, we used the phone number to help serve our customers better, and for no other purpose.

The phone number wasn't mandatory, but sometimes, if I knew they were a regular customer, I would set them up in the system as a customer using their phone number.

We did not sell phone numbers, and they never went any farther than our in-store computer database.

We often had customers coming back with an item and no receipt, while it was still under warranty, and all we had to do was enter a phone number to find their transactions, and the receipt for that sale.

It was actually very handy.
We also do special orders and all rainchecks for items actually get held for the person, so using a phone number is a great way to track those as well.

Also, sometimes we would find, after the fact, that a cashier had screwed up on a cash sale, and having a phone number attached to the transaction meant that the customer could be contacted to give them back their money.
With a credit card, we could just do a credit to the card using the number on file, and with a cheque, of course we took a phone number, but with cash and debit card, there was no other way of tracking to fix an error, other than by phone number.

So, that's just another side to the issue. Businesses aren't always up to no good when they ask for that info. ;)

MadMike
11-13-2006, 09:00 PM
Ree, thanks for shedding some light on that situation. This is probably the first straight answer I've gotten from anyone from any company.

Still, even though your company does not telemarket or sell numbers to telemarketers, I'm sure there are plenty of others that do, but won't admit to it.

Somewhat related -- this one company I had a credit card with mispelled my first name as "Micheal", and my middle initial as "K" instead of "R." Interestingly enough, shortly after I received the card, I got avalanched with junk mail, with the same mispelling. Worse yet, some of the stuff I got was an outright scam, so apparently they didn't care who they were selling their info to.

I didn't do anything about it, but now I kind of wish I had called them to complain. I'm sure they would have flat-out denied it, until I pointed out the misspelling common to both the card and all the junk mail I was receiving.

DGoddessChardonnay
11-14-2006, 01:16 AM
I give my telephone number out as CApitol 7-2007, which technically is correct*, seeing as we still use the old exchanges in this city. Using the old exchange confuses anybody who's asking long enough for me to make my escape.

You know, you can buy telephone directories organized by number rather than name, with which you can look up someone's address by their telephone number. Or you could just use Google.

*Not really my telephone number.

Or, if you really want to confuse them, give them BR-549.:angel: