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lupo pazzesco
04-17-2009, 03:45 AM
So, I'm on the pill, as a form of hormone therapy and regulation control. Without it, life is horrendous. I'm trying not to go into too much detail, but sufficient background is needed, I think. So, without the pill, I'd cycle twice a month, have horrendous mood swings, and be in such excruciating pain, that it wasn't uncommon for me to pass out or vomit from it. With the pill, I have something along the lines of what is considered a "normal" cycle, and thus "normal" symptoms. Occasionally, though, despite the pill, I'll still have bad months, and this is turning out to be one of them.

I was on the phone with my mom a short while ago, and she and my sister were apparently playing a game, that I'd interrupted. We chatted for a bit, but then I got the feeling that I was being pushed off the phone, so they could continue gameplay. I said it was no problem, that I was just needing a few bits of info, and sorry to interrupt. Mom wanted to know what was wrong because, in that eerie mom way of hers, she said I sounded unhappy.

And I burst into tears. Which of course did NOTHING to reassure her that I'm ok. At all.


I guess I got hit with a wave of homesickness. I miss my mommy. I still miss my grandpa, and I want to see my grandma. It's hard to believe grandpa's been gone for a month and a half by now. And it hits really hard sometimes that I'm never going to be able to talk to him again. I also felt like I was an intruder on the phone with my own mother, who sounded like she had better things to do than talk to me. Logically, I know this is the furthest from the truth, but I couldn't help but feel that way, especially when the end of our phone call was her telling me she needed to go take her turn on the game, and that I should go get some sleep and have a good night.

so, I guess the point of this is just a mini rant of sorts, that I greatly dislike being female at the moment. I hurt, I'm weepy and can't stop leaking tears, and if someone were to wave a cookie under my nose at the moment, I'm pretty sure I'd eat their whole damn arm.

It sucks. And I'm really really tired, but can't sleep, so I'm about to take a melatonin tablet to see if that'll help. I'm also seriously wishing I had a heating pad, because it'd hopefully quell that cast of Riverdance that seems to have taken up residence on my uterus. Uck.

Ok, done ranting now, I promise. Thanks for letting me whimper all over the place. I'm gonna go cry in my pillow for a bit until the melatonin (hopefully) takes effect. Good night.

Evil Queen
04-17-2009, 04:00 AM
*puts a cookie on the end of a spatula and offers it to Lupo*

Buglady
04-17-2009, 04:17 AM
*cheesy Internet hug for Lupo*

*puts on chainmail gauntlet and offers cookies*

*gets heating pad and a purring cat for sore bits*

I sympathise! I used to have horrendous cramps etcetera. Luckily things eased up when I got into my thirties. I don't know if it was age, or if the cycling I took up at the same time kind of thwacked my system into better behaviour, but I'm thankful whichever way.

Tomorrow, get yourself a cup of nice hot coffee with lots of cream and sugar (even if you don't normally take them). Take some Advil or Motrin at the same time. The combination should help the cramps quite a lot - caffeine potentiates most painkillers, and it has effects on neurotransmitters in the brain that have to do with mood and with pain perception.

Then see if you can get some time for a little walk, bike ride, or a couple of trips up and down the stairs (slowly). I know it's the absolute last thing you want to do but trust me, it will cue your body to give you some endorphins and it will also help to ease some of the muscles that are spasming in your back and pelvis.

Third, and this sounds ridiculous, I know, but bear with me - meditate a little bit. Sit somewhere comfy, with your eyes closed or looking at a candle flame, and breathe deep into your lungs and belly; try to clear your thoughts by allowing them to come to the surface and then pass by, like fish in a pond. Think about each part of your body and imagine it becoming heavier and more relaxed. Let your awareness go to the pain and just consider it. Don't think about how bad it is or anything negative, just be aware of the pain and of the structures of your uterus and pelvis. Feel the blood that circulates and the heaviness inside your body. Sit with this awareness for a few breaths, just accepting the way your body is feeling right now. Still breathing slowly and deeply, turn your awareness back to the extremities of your body. Wiggle your toes and fingers gently, then circle your hands and feet to wake up those joints. Experiment with tensing and releasing your large muscles briefly. Feel the different sensations in your limbs as you do this. Breathe deeply, letting your awareness follow that breath into your lungs, into your body, and out to your finger and toe tips. Breathe again, bringing a ball of warm light and energy into your core. Finally, open your eyes and appreciate the beauty of the room around you. Take a little inventory of your body. Does it feel different?

It is amazing how often a brief meditation can allow pains to clear, or to settle to a manageable level. It's like the pain is a noisy child that yells louder and louder until you acknowledge it - sometimes it has an important messgae (go to hospital! Now!) and sometimes it just needs you to hear it to make sure you're still there.

Evil Queen
04-17-2009, 04:29 AM
Uh... Lupo can't have anything with caffeine (which means no coffee unless it's decaf and no chocolate unless it's white). Otherwise she gets sick and has seizures. :(

Warm cinnamon rolls might be nice for Lupos, yes?

Buglady
04-17-2009, 04:40 AM
Oh! Oh dear. No, no coffee then. Hmm. Luckily, I have a Pharmacology final exam on Saturday! :p

Er. Well. I did find another substance that has been used historically for menstrual cramps and pain relief. Unfortunately it's not exactly legal. Very effective, apparently, but, alas - not legal.

More cookies?

ArcticChicken
04-17-2009, 06:47 AM
I don't remember if I've suggested this before, but calcium and magnesium seem to help the pain killers along when I have bad cramps. They're not nearly as nasty as yours, but...

I'll second the meditation thing. While I've never meditated for pain, it can really help my mood.

In the meantime I'm sending you intarwebz hugs, and cookies. Lots of cookies.

goldaries13
04-17-2009, 08:40 AM
I feel you, Lupo. I used to get that way, too. Before the pill, I was an angry bitch with cramps and exhaustion, and after the pill, I was a weepy bitch, but I had no cramps and a lot more energy. Eventually I just said the hell with it and started the depo shot.

Estroven has an herbal PMS supplement (http://www.drugstore.com/products/prod.asp?pid=78674&catid=30&brand=9762&trx=PLST-0-BRAND&trxp1=30&trxp2=78674&trxp3=1&trxp4=0&btrx=BUY-PLST-0-BRAND)(it doesn't appear to have caffeine) that might help.

RootedPhoenix
04-17-2009, 09:12 AM
*hugs* I get where you're coming from, Lupo. My cramps are so bad that I've scared my best friend with how much I was hurting.

I too do not appreciate being female when all of this happens. :mad:

Caffiene causes me trouble too, just different trouble. So I can't use caffiene as a remedy either.

For me, drinking a lot of water helps. Also, Hatha yoga has helped me a ton. There are certain postures that are pointedly to ease the pain of one's period. These help immensely. I cannot say enough good things about how awesome it is to find my body not in knots after some of those postures. For me, it cuts the pain itself from 8 to about 3. It keeps the pain away for a bit too, probably because it helps with the spasming of muscles, like someone else said exercise does.

And exercise is good stuff too. I'm just such a zombie on my period that it's really hard to do much of that.

I hope you feel better, Lupo. :(

fireheart
04-17-2009, 10:41 AM
*sends intrawebz hugs*

I know how you feel Lupo. Although if you don't mind me asking, if you're still getting bad swings, unless the doctor advised it was normal, have you perhaps asked about going on a different medication?

lupo pazzesco
04-17-2009, 12:50 PM
Yay for EQ cookies.

Oh! Oh dear. No, no coffee then.

No, no coffee for me. For the most part, it doesn't bother me much, but there are times when, knowing that it's a good accelerant for painkillers, I really wish I could have it! My doctor advises large doses of Advil or Motrin, and actually prescribed 800 mg Motrin for me to take. It helps a little.

I don't remember if I've suggested this before, but calcium and magnesium seem to help the pain killers along when I have bad cramps.

I'll second the meditation thing. While I've never meditated for pain, it can really help my mood.


I'll have to look into the calcium/magnesium angle. Thanks. And I do meditate. Sometimes. But it's been a long time since I've actually taken the time to. I may need to start up again, just for my ow benefits, not just for the monthly horror.

I feel you, Lupo.

Estroven has an herbal PMS supplement (http://www.drugstore.com/products/prod.asp?pid=78674&catid=30&brand=9762&trx=PLST-0-BRAND&trxp1=30&trxp2=78674&trxp3=1&trxp4=0&btrx=BUY-PLST-0-BRAND)(it doesn't appear to have caffeine) that might help.

Yeah, before the pill I was unbearable to be around. Now, I just get tolerated a lot easier. I can't do depo, though. I have to be on a really high dose of estrogen no the pill. (We're talking about 45 mcg compared to the standard 15-30...) That and with the weight gain issues that have cropped up with family members who went on the shot? Urg. Not for me. But it'd be nice.


Caffiene causes me trouble too, just different trouble. So I can't use caffiene as a remedy either.

For me, drinking a lot of water helps. Also, Hatha yoga has helped me a ton. There are certain postures that are pointedly to ease the pain of one's period. These help immensely.

And exercise is good stuff too. I'm just such a zombie on my period that it's really hard to do much of that.

I hope you feel better, Lupo. :(

Yay, someone else that caffeine hates! (not to sound celebratory, but it's nice to know I'm not the only odd one in that regard, even if it does stem different symptoms. I don't do yoga, though I've been wanting to try it. I just never could find a class that I'd be comfortable in, and it's the kind of thing I wouldn't want to learn from a DVD. Too afraid I'd botch a position and hurt myself. With me that's extremely likely.

And despite feeling like uber-bitch in pain, I HAVE worked out everyday this week, pretty much. (Not an actual workout on Tuesday, but I met EQ and we wandered around. A LOT. According to my pedometer between that and just going to work, I walked over 3.5 miles...) I'm proud of myself in that aspect, but yes, it's very hard to get motivated. Took me over an hour yesterday to talk myself into doing 25 minutes of pilates, and then some cardio work with hand weights.

I know how you feel Lupo. Although if you don't mind me asking, if you're still getting bad swings, unless the doctor advised it was normal, have you perhaps asked about going on a different medication?

<Hugs back> Thanks, hun. And actually, the bad swings is really rare. For the most part, I only get a few mild cramps on the first day, and maybe the occasional weepy period. There are just some months that are really bad, and go back to being almost as painful as it was without the pill. My doctor says that's fairly normal, since no treatment is perfect. That and she doesn't want to put my on any higher of a dosage if possible because I'm already on a high range.



Thanks for all the hugs and sympathy guys. Made me very happy this morning! Always a nice way to start the day! And now off to shower and get ready for said day. Buh. Stats class. <Twitch twitch>

Evil Queen
04-17-2009, 02:20 PM
Large doses of sugar tends to help me. That's why I generally crave pastry items when I'm PMSing.

Magnesium and Calcium both help DataJager's legs when he's in pain.

AccountingDrone
04-17-2009, 03:17 PM
Yeah, before the pill I was unbearable to be around. Now, I just get tolerated a lot easier. I can't do depo, though. I have to be on a really high dose of estrogen no the pill. (We're talking about 45 mcg compared to the standard 15-30...) That and with the weight gain issues that have cropped up with family members who went on the shot? Urg. Not for me. But it'd be nice.



Norethindrone, 20 mG/day. Stops the damned period in its little red tracks. I get it because if I have anything resembling normal BC, I swing between totally skipping months or bleeding out for extended weeks and labor quality cramps.

On the plus side of a consult for an elective hysterectomy to stop it totally [if I havent popped a sprog out of my cootchie by 48, I*think* it might be safe to say that I never plan on popping out a sprog ...] when my doc did an ultra sound to see if she could go in through the cootchie or had to do it laparoscopically, she discovered a 4 cm mass on my left ovary ... I would hate to find out about it either when it exploded on its own or turned violently cancerous and metastesized all over the place :eek: I did the cance thing once before, and I really dont want to do it again ..

tropicsgoddess
04-17-2009, 03:21 PM
Here's plenty of white chocolate and :hug:, lupo.

blas
04-17-2009, 04:19 PM
After a period that went on for several months straight with barely a break snuck in, I went to the doctor and got on the Depo shot when I was 17. I can honestly say that I have never had a period of any kind or anything heavier than very light spotting in 5 years.

It has been the best 5 years of my life.

Sure, Depo is controversial and has the worst side effects of probably any birth control. I have to exercise every day and take calcium supliments....but I figure even if I wasn't on Depo, I'd need to be regularly exercising anyway.

Talk all the shit you want about Depo Provera, but it helped stop me from being a slave to my own body.

Evil Queen
04-17-2009, 04:30 PM
I haven't heard anything bad about the Depo shot. Of course, I haven't gone looking for the bad stuff either.

My now-ex-roommate's girlfriend (Duckies4becca, she's a member here) is on the Depo. She's always singing praises about it. Wish I could be on it but I don't make enough money for it. :( Oh well. I like my Ortho Try-Cyclen.

blas
04-17-2009, 04:50 PM
Most girls I talk to are too scared to go on Depo or have been on it and gained a lot of weight or went insane....not sure if I believe it all....some girls probably have....but with ANY form of birth control, you need to watch your weight and exercise. Depo is probably the worst for weight gain, but you can gain weight on the Pill as well. Extra hormones, ya'll...

Funny story, EQ.....my medical insurance covers my Depo shot 100%. I do not pay a penny for it.

But...every. other. form. of birth control costs extra. It's messed up. My coworker Michelle is on Yaz and she has to pay $50 a month for it. I wonder how much a month's worth of Yaz is without insurance! Yikes!

I don't know why Depo is covered 100% but the Pill, the patch, and the ring are not. I heard IUDs are quite spendy too, even with insurance.

I won't go on the Pill for any reason. The Pill is how I got here.

lupo pazzesco
04-17-2009, 04:57 PM
if it sounded like I was talking trash about depo, then I'm sorry. I'm not. My sister's on it, and it's right for her. But discussing options with my doctor, it was the conclusion that the pill I'm on now is what's best for me.

Again, I didn't want to sound like I was badmouthing depo, blas. I'm glad it helped you, but it's just not right for me.

to each their own, I suppose.

blas
04-17-2009, 05:04 PM
Oh lupo, no no no no....I should have clarified. It wasn't you or anyone on this site trashing Depo.

Edit: I shouldn't have typed it out to sound so dramatic. Most of the time, I only hear bad things about Depo from coworkers or girls I talk to when I'm out and about.

lupo pazzesco
04-17-2009, 05:08 PM
Mk, good! I just know that when I'm hormonal and pissy, I may come off as sounding aggressive, or interpret other posts as such. My bad. I was just afraid I'd insulted/upset someone. That's all.

blas
04-17-2009, 05:19 PM
I wouldn't even say it was that. It's the big issue with the typed word versus the spoken word. I have a hard time deciphering sometimes if someone is being facetious or serious, and I've even had a few posts that came across the wrong way.

No worries :) Just wanted to add my 2 cents on what saved me from being a slave to my own body and how I was able to live like a normal young lady again. Hopefully one day there will be a way women won't need to have periods without being pregnant or going through menopause.

morgana
04-17-2009, 07:16 PM
Hopefully one day there will be a way women won't need to have periods without being pregnant or going through menopause.

Wouldn't that be wonderful . . . I feel for you, Lupo. I've had the on-a-week-off-a-week, might-as-well-be-in-labor periods as well. Most of my life. Started when I was nine.

Finally had endometrial ablation (second degree burn of the inside surface of the uterus. Owie) to stop it, and to fix a set of monstrous fibroids. The relief was wonderful. Wish I'd done it decades ago.

lupo pazzesco
04-17-2009, 09:21 PM
Finally had endometrial ablation (second degree burn of the inside surface of the uterus. Owie) to stop it, and to fix a set of monstrous fibroids. The relief was wonderful. Wish I'd done it decades ago.

I've had issues with fibroids as well. 2 D&Cs in my history, to get rid of some particularly nasty ones. Nothing like laying in stirrups and having a doctor go at you with what looks like a melon baller to your innards, and feeling hollowed out like a Halloween pumpkin. (Apologies if the imagery is too graphic. I'm trying NOT to go into horrendous detail...)

Yes, you know it's bad when I go in for a checkup at 14, while on my period, and then get grilled over my sexual history because they assume I'm miscarrying. (Not to squick most people out, highlight to read the following...)

I pass clots a lot when I'm not on the pill, and bleed very very heavily. To say it's unpleasant and painful is the understatement of the century.

BookstoreEscapee
04-18-2009, 02:54 AM
I don't remember if I've suggested this before, but calcium and magnesium seem to help the pain

Calcium and magnesium can definitely help. Symptoms of low levels of both include muscle spasms (as I suddenly get a cramp in my calf - ow! Talk about irony...:rolleyes:).

Hmm...guess I can't share my Milanos or my fudge brownie cookies...

*tosses bag of oatmeal cookies while keeping arms safely in New Jersey*

Buglady
04-18-2009, 03:04 AM
Thanks to this thread, I went and bought a magnesium supplement today, figuring it can't hurt - and I'll be biking HARD pretty soon so I probably need it for that too :) (Food sources of magnesium: whole grains, dark leafy veggies, and nuts/seeds. I'm not eating much of any of those, don't know about you all...)

Also, while studying pharmacology, learned that the nineteenth century's cure-all for cramps was laudanum! Whee, alcohol AND opium all in one!! (I would imagine that it would help with cramps all right... but the constipating effects might well make you worse off...)

ArcticChicken
04-18-2009, 03:37 AM
My doctor advises large doses of Advil or Motrin, and actually prescribed 800 mg Motrin for me to take. It helps a little.

Have you tried Naproxen Sodium (Aleve)?

That's my all time favorite painkiller for muscle and joint issues.

BookstoreEscapee
04-18-2009, 03:57 AM
Have you tried Naproxen Sodium (Aleve)?

That's my all time favorite painkiller for muscle and joint issues.

That's what they gave me after my car accident (prescription strength). Still couldn't sit up in bed the next morning...but that and the muscle relaxers were nice for a few days...

The Last to Know
04-18-2009, 04:20 AM
I'm sorry you have such a hard time with your monthly. I, myself, have been kinda lucky (truly luck would be not to have it at all), but know penty of women who have had hard times. My old PCP told me to take magnesium supplement when I was suffering from dibilitating back pain - he said it was a natural muscle relaxer. It actually works very good. Another thing I have found to work is an herb called Cramp Bark - http://health.howstuffworks.com/cramp-bark-herbal-remedies.htm - that site will give you some info on it & you might be able to find it in a tincture at a health food store - if not you can make your own tincture.
After having my third son (after birth cramps get worse after the birth of each child) I brought & only used herbal medicines to control the bleeding & the pain.
Good luck & I hope it gets better.

fireheart
04-18-2009, 09:27 AM
One other question: have you looked at getting the implant? Dunno what it's called in the US, or even if it exists in the US, but Implanon is basically about the size of a matchstick, goes right under the skin of your upper arm and stays there for three years. In most cases, it generally makes periods lighter or they don't occur at all.