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toolbert
07-17-2006, 05:17 PM
Yesterday I went swim suit shopping with my girlfriend at Macy's. Everything was going fine until she wanted to try on some suits and I had to wait outside of the fitting room for her. After about 5 mins of waiting, this mother, her mother and three kids come to the fitting room as well. So, I'm sitting there and the mom goes towards the fitting room while grandma is feeding the youngest (cute little girl, no older than a month). While the mother is waiting to go into the next available room, the other two kids (two boys, 7 and 5 respectively) start running around like crazy. One starts picking up the department phone and screaming into it then putting it back down...then picking it up, screaming into and putting it back down (wash, rinse and repeat). The oldest finally calms down some, but then he wants to start grabbing the ladies clothes from the fitting room and put them in random places. All I could do was look at both the Mom and Grandma in awe. They didn't say anything to either of the kids. All they did was pretend that everything was fine while these two little hellions ran amuck near the women's fitting rooms. All she had to say was "stop it" and I would have been happy. Gah, some parents these days!

MamaMootz
07-17-2006, 10:51 PM
I can do one worse than this, although your story is bad enough.

I know a person who took her 3 1/2 year old with her to the fitting rooms while she and her mom were bathing suit shopping. She went into one room, her mom went into another room, and she put the 3 y.o. in his own room.:eek:

Big, big mistake. Huge.

The kid, left to his own devices, dropped trou and peed all over the fitting room.

I asked the mom what she did and she said "Nothing. I just got out of there".
I was horrified.

Why are all my little kid stories about pee lately? :p

p.s. if my daughter started acting the way the kids in your story acted, she'd be outta that store so quickly she wouldn't have known what hit her.

CanadaGirl
07-18-2006, 12:47 AM
...and she put the 3 y.o. in his own room.:eek:

Big, big mistake. Huge.

The kid, left to his own devices, dropped trou and peed all over the fitting room.




She should be glad that is all that happened, and that her 'precious' wasn't kidnapped.

Rine
07-18-2006, 03:07 AM
Sometimes I just want to hurt parents who let their kids run around in the dressing rooms, play on the escalator, or jump on the display beds. My major pet peeve is parents who don't pay attention to their kids in the dressing rooms, especially with the news of a little girl killed in a Sears dressing room by a folding mirror a week ago. Apparently, she had been playing with it, at least that's what the rumors are in our store and on the web.

I don't like seeing little kids get hurt. :( That's why I will tell a kid to stop doing something stupid or dangerous the moment I see it and I don't care what the parent says to me afterwards.

I also can't stand it when parents push strollers onto the escalator with their kids still strapped in them. OMG. What the hell are they thinking? What if their hold slipped and they let go of the stroller? Usually it's too late when I try to tell them we have an elevator nearby. :rant: Anyway, sorry to go off topic like that...

wagegoth
07-18-2006, 08:03 AM
p.s. if my daughter started acting the way the kids in your story acted, she'd be outta that store so quickly she wouldn't have known what hit her.


With both of my children, the threat, "Keep it up and we're going home," was followed through. They know that they will be taken home and my saying it is usually all it takes to get improved behavior.

Barefootgirl
07-18-2006, 10:05 AM
I'd always prefer to be thought of as an interfering old bag, for telling a parent to take better care of their child, than have to give a statement to the police after an accident where a child is severely injured or even killed....I do think that the willingness to speak up to bad parents tends to come with age or with parenthood, as i didn't speak up much when I was younger. These days i don't give a monkey's, so I do ask parents to control their kids when they are running riot, or tell them that such-and-such a thing is dangerous.

MamaMootz
07-18-2006, 12:35 PM
She should be glad that is all that happened, and that her 'precious' wasn't kidnapped.

Exactly. What killed me about what happened was, that

1) she was there with her mother. What was wrong with mom staying outside the dressing rooms while the parent tried on suits, and then the parent could watch the kid while the mom tried on suits. Sure it would have taken longer, but so what?
2) I don't understand why a person who also works in retail would even think that it's remotely OK to let your kid pee in a dressing room and not tell anyone or offer to clean it up. She just left!
3) I cannot imagine, ever, ever, every leaving DD in a dressing room by herself. *shudder*

But this was also the mom that let her kid run rampant in parking lots - and he nearly got creamed by cars more than once.

RecoveringKinkoid
07-18-2006, 01:14 PM
Listen, I just had a baby 10 months ago. I now spend my entire exsistance with my heart in my throat, convinced there are tigers and dingos and kidnappers and all other calamities at every step, just waiting to pounce on my child.

I used to be fearless. Now I've surpassed even my own mother in worry. I told her to "enjoy her revenge on me.":o

I take my child out I don't even let go of the stroller unless my Mom or husband is with me and helping me.

I just do not know how some parents can be so cavalier with their children.

I remember this one IDIOT woman came into Kinko's with a toddler and was working out in self-serve. She had a copy machine open while she was doing a paste up on the table (why, I could not tell you) and her toddler was standing there playing around in the guts of the machine. Yes. A toddler. Playing. Guts of copy machine. Ever poked around in there? Well, it's full of all sorts of hazzards: a burning hot fuser that you can fry eggs on, electrical circuits, loose, toxic toner in powder form, fuser oil, places that pinch and crush, things that cut, other things that stab. I

I ran out there, pulled her kid gently but firmly out of the machine, and closed the door. I said "Ma'am, do not let your child play in or with the machines." She looked at me like a dumb cow with a mildly annoyed look on her face. I said "I don't imagine you want to spend thousands of dollars replacing this machine, and we don't want to spend thousands of dollars when you sue us because your child was injured. That's not a safe place for a child to play." (like I even had to TELL her that, right?)

If she complained, I never heard about it.:rant:

lordlundar
07-18-2006, 03:55 PM
Well, the parent's reasoning is that if something happens, they can sue the store. Great morals these people have, using their kids to make money.:pissed:

I have to keep an eye on the 20 year old kids, the ones that want to have silly string shootouts in the store (true story), keeping an eye on your little brat isn't my responsibility.

I so want to put up a sign that says "These game machines are not a babysitting service, monitoring your children is your responsibility and failure to do so will not fall on the store."

MamaMootz
07-18-2006, 04:20 PM
With both of my children, the threat, "Keep it up and we're going home," was followed through. They know that they will be taken home and my saying it is usually all it takes to get improved behavior.

And that's it, exactly. The key to great parenting. If you threaten, you have got to follow through. I think this is where the majority of people fail. They say "Oh little Tiffany, stop that or I'll take away a toy/spank/pull you out of the store" and then they let little Tiffany keep doing what she was doing with no consequences attached to the behavior.

It works like a charm. Threaten + carry out punishment = change in behavior. Simple.

RecoveringKinkoid
07-18-2006, 05:40 PM
I like the ones that "count to three." I want to smack them especially. Usually, they could count to 200 or so, all the times they said, "I'm going to count to three."

Why not just go on and tell your kid you are a pushover? If he's going to run out in traffic, are you going to count to three then?

When I was a kid, my parents would beat my butt if I acted like that.

XCashier
07-18-2006, 06:52 PM
Well, the parent's reasoning is that if something happens, they can sue the store. Great morals these people have, using their kids to make money.:pissed:
Sometimes I wonder if some parents love money more than they love their children. :(

Broomjockey
07-18-2006, 07:03 PM
Sometimes I wonder if some parents love money more than they love their children. :(

For the answer to that, look at the parents who buy ciggs and booze for themselves, and make their kids eat the cheapest stuff they can get away with, then smack their kids for ASKING, NICELY, if they can have something.

phillippbo
07-18-2006, 07:46 PM
All of this reminded me of my days at the local bowling alley.

For some unknown reason, parents had this idea that since the bowling alley is a "family friendly" environment (at least ours was), then they have to take no responsibility for their little children and let them run around unsupervised. In addition to the normal running around and screaming, these are things I have witnessed or heard about:

- Children running down the lanes for various reasons (the one that was the least funny was the child who thought the lane was their own personal Slip 'N Slide - they demanded we clean their children's clothes).
- One child reached the end of the lane and was starting into the machinery behind the lane. You know, those giant machines with whirling parts that do not stop because a little hand went in them (that family was banned, but I wasn't there for this one).
- Children thinking it was funny to throw the balls at the counters, other children, employees, the glass doors, etc.

Beyond all of that, there was one that took the cake for me. A child no more than 3 had climbed up on one of the ball returns. For those who do not know, the ball return is the piece of machinery that brings the bowling ball from the back of the lane to the "approach" (where the bowler chucks their ball down the lane). The ball returns do not shut off for anything until the alley closes and the power to the lanes is turned off. This means that there is a very fast-rotating wheel just inside the lip of the return that will not stop when someone touches it (not to mention the balls that travel at insane speeds into this return without warning). There were warning labels on this machine saying just that in not so many words. Anywho, I see the kid on top of the return, leaning over the hole the balls come out of, and reaching for the wheel that will not stop. Needless to say, I dropped whatever it was I was working with, ran to the lane so fast I don't think my feet actually touched the floor, and as gently as I could snatched the kid off the return and put him on the floor and told him that he shouldn't climb on the machines ,they're dangerous, etc, etc.

You'd think I'd be a hero for saving this poor child from losing an arm, wouldn't you? But, no! Psycho mom proceeds to berate me for what felt like hours for touching her child, allegedly yelling at her kid, etc, etc. Since I couldn't get a word in edgewise, I went back to the counter, turned her lane off, and asked her to leave. To make a long story short, the manager backed me up 1000% because (1) it was the weekend and technically I was in charge and (2) he saw the whole thing and called her on her lies and bad parenting.

The manager is the only reason I miss that job sometimes...

WonTon
07-19-2006, 01:24 AM
inĚsanĚiĚty
Pronunciation: in-'sa-n&-tE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -ties
1 : a deranged state of the mind usually occurring as a specific disorder (as schizophrenia)
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RecoveringKinkoid
07-19-2006, 02:47 PM
Okay, so get this. Talked to my cousin last night. She's a surgical tech. She was on vacation with her husband and children.

It's about 10 at night, and they're the only ones in the pool area(it's a resort hotel at the beach, and there are two pools, a jacuzzi, and a lazy river.

She's in the lazy river with her 18 month old and stumbles over a drowning 6 year old girl on the bottom. :eek: :eek: :eek:

So she's got her own little one on one arm, dragging the girl, who is blue, off the bottom with the other, and screaming for her husband to call an ambulance. She does rescue breathing on the child till the ambulance comes.

The child was there with a 7 year old companion, who understandably, was hysterical and could not remember their room number. Finally, a last name was produced and parents called.

The good news: The child was revived and looked like she'd be fine.
The bad news: turns out the parents thought sending two little girls, 6 and 7, to a pool at 10pm alone was an okay idea.

My cousin commented that nobody ever even thanked her. But then, she thought the couple got ejected from the hotel before they wouldv'e had the chance.

This stuff really, really disturbs me.:(
Probably, they will be back trying to sue the hotel.

Bella_Vixen
07-19-2006, 05:23 PM
Okay, so get this. Talked to my cousin last night. She's a surgical tech. She was on vacation with her husband and children.

It's about 10 at night, and they're the only ones in the pool area(it's a resort hotel at the beach, and there are two pools, a jacuzzi, and a lazy river.

She's in the lazy river with her 18 month old and stumbles over a drowning 6 year old girl on the bottom. :eek: :eek:

So she's got her own little one on one arm, dragging the girl, who is blue, off the bottom with the other, and screaming for her husband to call an ambulance. She does rescue breathing on the child till the ambulance comes.

The child was there with a 7 year old companion, who understandably, was hysterical and could not remember their room number. Finally, a last name was produced and parents called.

The good news: The child was revived and looked like she'd be fine.
The bad news: turns out the parents thought sending two little girls, 6 and 7, to a pool at 10pm alone was an okay idea.

My cousin commented that nobody ever even thanked her. But then, she thought the couple got ejected from the hotel before they wouldv'e had the chance.

This stuff really, really disturbs me.:(
Probably, they will be back trying to sue the hotel.

Oh my God! I sincerely hope the wonderparents got charge with all kinds of criminal child neglect.

:salute: Your cousin is great.

Crow The Robot
07-19-2006, 06:54 PM
I agree RK your cousin, rocks :salute: that couple should have been tossed for endangering their children, and causing a liability risk to the motel/resort. I one was working carts and this kid was going in and out of the cart door, in and out in and out. A stockman with a row of cart machine, which can hold up to 40 cats is approaching, I say, "Honey, please move out of the way, I don't want you to get hurt." Well, psycho mom stats into me saying "DON"T you EVER, EVER, talk to my kid. SHe will do what ever she wants to do, and if you lay a hand on her I'll have you arrested as a pedophile, which I am sure you are you retarded piece of crap." Well i walk off as soon as she begins yelling insults at me as i was called to lay-a-way. After i helped the LAW associate put the merchandise in the trailer, I came back out. Same mom approaches me.
Her: How DARE YOU walk away from me when I am talking to you. I bet you are on welfare well, guess what I pay for you you freeloader. AND my child almost got hit by a cart why didn't you get her outof the way."
Me: erm...I am not on welfare and i was helping with lay-a-way.
Her: YOU need to watch my kid i have more important things to do!!
ME: Sorry, ma'am but i haveto respond to a lay-a-way call it's part of my job.
Her: MY child could have been hurt because of you, you stupid M----- F----.
Manager(just entering): I saw what happened, He was doing part of his job. IT is NOT his job to watch your kids. . That is your job. And, get out of the store i will not have my associates disrespected, & as for your more important things to do; if you believe that yakking on your phone is more important than the welfare of your child than I have a mind to report you to DYFS.
Her: I AM NEVER SHOPPING HERE AGAIN!!!!!!
manager: Good!!!
I should point out that the manager was going to kick her out she called me a pedophile but, she thought I was seeking a manager, and just did not notice her, she did not know I was going to lay a way.

gah sorry for the slight thread jack, but it does prove that some people have noregard for their child's welfare at all.:mad:

Titi
07-19-2006, 07:35 PM
Wait a second. First she yells at you for asking her child to move so that she doesn't get hit by a cart, and then she complains that you didn't move her child? :eek: :rolleyes:

You can't have it both ways.

One-Fang
07-20-2006, 12:35 AM
Just what I was thinking, Titi.

On parenting, in my family it was known that you were asked once, told once, then smacked. I had to be told several times, but that was usually where it ended. :)

Becks
07-20-2006, 01:31 AM
Titi, I was thinking the same thing!!!!!!!!!

Aren't there enough stories on the news/in the paper/whatever your media choice is that would make parents want to keep a better eye on their children?!?!?!?!?

blas
07-20-2006, 02:45 AM
Last March, my family went to Wisconsin Dells for a weekend getaway (not such a getaway when it was discovered that we'd gotten home early on Sunday and it was the perfect opportunity for a coworker to call in, but that's another story).

The Dells is really family oriented, and I expected a lot children (and a lot of headaches from children, because I can't stand them). I expected a lot of shrieking and running and bouncing.

I did NOT expect a bunch of unsupervised kids, some as young as 3 or 4, running around the hotel. That hotel was HUGE, and I'm not saying there were bad people there, but you never know what could happen.

On top of that, my family shut off the lights and went to bed around midnight every night. What did we hear?

Thump thump thump thump thump "Hehehehehehehehehehehehe!" "NOOOOOO!" "STOP YOU BUTTHOLE!" "Ahhhhhh!" "EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"

Little kids running/thumping down the halls at fricken midnight. When I was that little, I was in bed by 7 or 8.

Some parents........shouldn't be parents.

ArenaBoy
08-06-2006, 06:14 AM
The Dells is really family oriented, and I expected a lot children (and a lot of headaches from children, because I can't stand them). I expected a lot of shrieking and running and bouncing.

I did NOT expect a bunch of unsupervised kids, some as young as 3 or 4, running around the hotel. That hotel was HUGE, and I'm not saying there were bad people there, but you never know what could happen.



That is why I hate going to family resorts with my family. I cannot stand parents who do not keep a sharp eye on their kids for many reasons. I hate it when kids are running around and screaming and will not shut up and the parents do nothing about it.

Canarr
08-07-2006, 08:11 AM
Unsupervised children give me a headache.

I was at a Triathlon(?) event Sunday morning where my girlfriend and two friends of mine were starting as a team. Towards the end, we'd assembled at the finishing line to wait for our runner to come through. The place is full, so people are standing shoulder to shoulder in order to cheer their friends/relatives.

The organizers had cordoned off the... runway, I guess, to keep spectators away from the runners, by using red&white construction tape. The runway was maybe ten feet wide for the most part, but widened to twice that maybe 50 meters from the finishing line, to give the athletes room for a last dash. However, since people stood directly at the tape, that meant people standing at the wider section couldn't see very far back, as their LOS was blocked by the people standing at the less wide section.

A few kids, the oldest maybe 10, thought they ought to see better. So they PUSHED THE TAPE INTO THE RUNWAY by 3 or 4 feet, so they could look past the other people towards the approaching athletes. Towards athletes just giving their last in order to make a few more seconds' headway towards the finishing line; athletes, who only see that the tape is widening in front of them, giving them just the opportunity to get past that guy who's blocking them... and of course, no parent in sight who might realize that their kids standing practically in the middle of the runway is not a bright idea.

Both one of my friends and I tried to get the kids to move, but they only commented that they couldn't see otherwise.

Mixed Bag
08-07-2006, 02:09 PM
I also can't stand it when parents push strollers onto the escalator with their kids still strapped in them.

I'm not around escalators that much, but I'm amazed that I never see strollers on them and that people pushing them will spend an eternity waiting for the single elevator (sometimes waiting for the second pass if it's really jammed). Me, I'd wear the kids in a sling rather than put myself in that position.

What's XD?

ditchdj
08-08-2006, 03:46 AM
And to think that Mayor Carty's trying to get a "Parental Responsibility Law" enacted in Toledo and a lot of parents bitched up a storm over it. :lol:

Lace Neil Singer
08-08-2006, 11:56 AM
What's XD?


Turn your head to the left. Doesn't the XD now look like a person screwing up their eyes and grinning?