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CalyCoRose
01-27-2012, 02:37 AM
(BG: I'm trying to sell off some Disney Princess Bell I got from the Bradford Exchange. It's a set of 4 and I'm asking $100 - paid $40 per bell - and one of the places I listed them was on Craigslist).

E-mail I received (I thought the initial inquiry was legit so I answered that yes, they were still available):

Thanks for the prompt response and i will love to make an instant purchase,i hope it is in good condition like it stated, i have taken a close look at the advert,and am completely satisfied so please do withdraw the advert from Craigslist.I don,t mind adding an extra $50 dollars for you to take the advert down from criagslist, so that i can be rest assured that am in hand of the item.I will also like you to know that i will be paying via CERTIFIED CHECK OR USPS MONEY ORDER and it will be an over night payment............. You don,t need to bother your self with the shippment ok,I will take care of that myself.... So I will need you to provide me with the following information to facilitate the mailing of the payment....

1.Name to be on the check

2.Home address

3.Your state,city and zip code

4.Telephone

**Once again ,I will like you to know that you will not be responsible for shipping of this item . my shipper will move down to your place for the pick up...as soon as the check clear. hope you assure me in hand of the item... Have a nice day.......

DeltaSierra
01-27-2012, 03:31 AM
Sadly - LOTS of people still fall for this scam. I have friend on another forum who'se Mom did and lost two iPhones as a result.

Irving Patrick Freleigh
01-27-2012, 09:35 AM
Any time I see a response to an ad written like that, I just replace it with "I am a scammer who will try to get your item from you for free."

cinema guy
01-27-2012, 02:55 PM
I don't understand the scam, please explain. They are only going to pick up after the check has cleared, right?

lordlundar
01-27-2012, 02:59 PM
I don't understand the scam, please explain. They are only going to pick up after the check has cleared, right?

Look at the information they are asking for. It's a classic Identity theft scheme.

dendawg
01-27-2012, 03:50 PM
Yep, definitely a Nigerian scam. The bad english is a dead giveaway.

PawnPrincess Ardra
01-27-2012, 06:02 PM
they send a cheque (bad), you put it in the bank, it bounces and you owe fees. Brilliant! ugh. Too many people fall for this and sadly, a lot of them are elderly. Makes me very angry

Redbeard
01-27-2012, 06:47 PM
Yeah. They get your info and if you're naive enough to ship the items without the check clearing first, you lose your items as well.
Then they use your address as a fake shipping address with UPS.
I despise the Nigerian scammers with a bloody passion after having to deal with their crap at the relay call center I worked at

dougall
01-27-2012, 07:11 PM
They send a fake cheque for more than the amount you asked for then ask you to send the excess to their shipping agent via western union the cheque bounces and you are out the money you sent. They have no interest in the item you are trying to sell.

CalyCoRose
01-27-2012, 07:36 PM
I was going to respond, but I don't think so. I'm leaving the advert up. If they contact me again, I'm going to block them.

Kogarashi
01-28-2012, 12:18 AM
Ugh. Reminds me of one of the responses I got when we were trying to offload a collapsible art table before we moved. One person sent the standard initial query asking if the item was available. Fair enough, so I reply that yes, it was still available for such-and-such amount, and did they want it?

Cue response stating that sorry, they fell on hard times and couldn't get the table anymore, but here's this great sales opportunity blah blah blah insert scam work-at-home sales pitch here.

Look, people, I'm just trying to sell a stupid table here, not find a job. Buzz off.

MoonCat
01-28-2012, 03:35 AM
I don't understand the scam, please explain. They are only going to pick up after the check has cleared, right?

Biggest red flag is the poor grammer. The second you see the phrase, "I will like to" or "I will love to" (instead of "I would") you know you've got a scammer there.

cinema guy
01-28-2012, 12:43 PM
Hmm, I have seen plenty of poor grammar on the net or in emails. But I will take your word for it.

Irving Patrick Freleigh
01-29-2012, 01:32 AM
I don't understand the scam, please explain. They are only going to pick up after the check has cleared, right?

Scammer buys, or claims to have bought your item, and promises payment, or claims they have paid you but the funds can't be released to you until you provide proof of shipment.

You package and ship item.

Payment never materializes.

It's a classic Nigerian scam. You see it all the time on ebay. The scammers target inexperienced sellers selling expensive merchandise. There are wild rumors that somebody from Nigeria purchased an item on ebay and actually paid for it, but then again some people still believe Elvis Presley is still alive. :p

I used to have a good way of screening these people out when selling on ebay: Listing my items as Buy it Now with immediate payment required. This way they couldn't come in with a bid at the last minute or do a Buy It Now and screw up my listing and require me to go through the processes to have the bid removed after the fact and relist my item and get my fees credited back to me. The listing stayed up until a buyer completed payment for it through Paypal, which a Nigerian scammer would never do. They could still attempt to contact me and work their scam, but I recognized the verbiage and grammar and blocked them from bidding.

Of course, this requires a feedback score of 10, IIRC, and a Paypal account. Or at least it did last time I checked.

cinema guy
01-29-2012, 10:52 PM
Scammer buys, or claims to have bought your item, and promises payment, or claims they have paid you but the funds can't be released to you until you provide proof of shipment.

You package and ship item.

Payment never materializes.



Ok, thanks.

Pixilated
01-29-2012, 11:08 PM
Hmm, I have seen plenty of poor grammar on the net or in emails. But I will take your word for it.

You're right that poor spelling and grammar are epidemic across the 'Net. However, it's virtually 100% like this with scams, and combined with the other factors (request for personal info) it should set off alarm bells immediately.

NorthernZel
01-29-2012, 11:22 PM
You're right that poor spelling and grammar are epidemic across the 'Net. However, it's virtually 100% like this with scams, and combined with the other factors (request for personal info) it should set off alarm bells immediately.

Also, referring to whatever you're selling as "the item" and an excessive use of the word "ok" within sentences should set one's spidey senses a-tinglin'.

When the initial response says something like "I'd like to buy your item" there is a huge possibility that the response is scripted, i.e. the scammer hasn't read your ad at all and is firing the same script at several sellers at once.

Sapphire Silk
01-31-2012, 03:03 AM
I was going to respond, but I don't think so. I'm leaving the advert up. If they contact me again, I'm going to block them.

Good call. Nigerian scammers are relentless; if they think they have you on the hook, they will do anything to reel you in.

CalyCoRose
02-02-2012, 11:03 PM
Set up another advert on Craigslist. This time, I put in capital letters: CASH ONLY and LOCAL BUYERS ONLY. This is the response I got from one person:

Thanks for the prompt response to my mail. I will be buying from
you so please kindly withdraw the advert from C.LIST. Please be
informed that i will be paying with a certified check from my Bank it
will be delivered to you via United Parcel Service (FEDEX), so I'll need
you to provide me with the following information to facilitate the
mailing of the check...

Name to be on the payment...........
Home address...........
City..............
State...........
Zip Code..............
Cell phone #................

I will make arrangements for the pick up as soon as you have your
money I am completely satisfied with the advert and the payment will
be delivered within 24hours.** I use a hearing impaired phone
# and will receive your calls via email **..I'm sorry for the late
respond to your email ...N.B FEDEX does not deliver to a P.O box
addresses.Thanks



:rolleyes:

I will not be responding to this one neither. *le sigh*

Irving Patrick Freleigh
02-03-2012, 01:17 AM
I'm kind of wondering if selling your stuff on craigslist might be a bad idea, since it seems the only people showing any apparent interest are scammers.

CalyCoRose
02-03-2012, 12:00 PM
You might have a point there Irv.

The only reason I re-upped the ad on Craigslist is because I thought I might get a legit response. Sadly I was wrong.

Fortunately, there is, in the city just north of me, an eBay seller shop that I can take my stuff to and they'll sell it for me. I just have to find the certificates of authenticity for the bells (of which I have found 3).

Kogarashi
02-08-2012, 03:56 AM
I swear, that second one is worse. Sounds like one of those "check ends up being higher; please forward the difference to this other person" scams.

And who seriously calls it "C.LIST" if they're not a scammer?