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  • It's Defective!

    I was at my local Apple Store, visiting with one of the Geniuses to work out an issue with my laptop. A lot of times, the Geniuses are double booked to work on two problems at once, which I'm fine with as it makes them more efficient because computers have to be booted, rebooted, run diagnostic software, etc, which is time consuming.

    So this lady is assigned to my Genius (henceforth called Awesome Apple Genius or AAG). She has an older MacBookPro, 15". From the looks of it, it was probably the first Intel based chipset since it has the MagnaLock powercord.

    Dramatis Personae:
    Awesome Appe Genius (AAG)
    SC

    SC: I talked to Tech Support and they told me to see you today. They can't figure out my problem.
    AAG: OK, what's going on.
    SC: My battery won't charge.
    AAG: And tech support couldn't help you? *he had a very confused look on his face*
    SC: It's defective. I only use it about six times a year, when I travel. It will only hold a charge for an hour. It's defective and I want it replaced.

    AAG checks her battery, and it is indeed bad. However, it is also out of warranty. He tells her this.

    SC: The battery that came with it originally was bad. They replaced it for free. This one is bad. I want you to replace it.

    Me:

    AAG: well, you know after a while batteries lose their ability to have the chemical reaction . . . have you left it dead for awhile?

    SC: No, I leave it plugged in all the time.

    AAG: Well, that's a good idea. But the battery is out of warranty. You'll need to buy a new one.

    SC: They replaced the last one for free

    AAG: Well, yes, because it was replaced under a special program.

    SC: Then replace it under that.

    AAG: I'm sorry, I can't. The program no longer exists.

    SC: It's defective; I want you to replace it for free

    AAG: You don't understand. It's like a car. When your car goes out of warranty, you have to pay for the repairs. It's the same thing here. *yes, he actually said this. He is my hero*

    SC: I understand that. But the battery was defective when I got it, so you have to replace it. If my alternator is old and goes bad, I have to fix it unless there was a problem with it to begin with, then you have to replace it.

    Me: *What?? Lady, if it were defective, why didn't you bring it back when it was still under warranty? This lady clearly does not understand how warranties work.*

    At this point I could tell the AAG was clearly getting frustrated. He'd replaced MY battery (which had gone bad, was out of warranty, and for which I cheerfully had paid to replace because I should), and I could tell he didn't want to argue with her in front of me because my facial expressions were pretty blatantly "bitches be crazy" (I was trying very hard not to laugh at her). He said he'd have to talk to his manager. I was done, so I left so I don't know if the manager caved or not. I hope not; Apple products are expensive and I'd hate to think SC's like this drive up the prices.

    I got a discount on my new battery for agreeing to a 3 month warranty rather than a 1 year one. It's a safe bet that saved me $35, since I've only ONCE had to swap out something with Apple under a warranty in the 15 years I've been using their products.

    So long story short, her battery was very old and had reached the end of its useful life. She wanted a free one. I guess she thinks rechargeable batteries should last forever.

    I got 3 1/2 years on my laptops original battery. Then I bought a third party replacement. It lasted one year. So I went with Apple for my third battery. It it lasts another 3 years, then it will probably outlive the computer itself (which is 4 1/2 years old).
    They say that God only gives us what we can handle. Apparently, God thinks I'm a bad ass.

  • #2
    Quoth Sapphire Silk View Post
    I guess she thinks rechargeable batteries should last forever.
    Some people are just plain stupid, I suppose. My one friend's car died on him a couple of years ago, and he needed me to come out and give him a jump. He had one of his kids with him, who was maybe 8 years old at the time. While we were hooking everything up, the kid asked why, if you can just recharge a car battery, do they need to be replaced. I simply told him, "After a few years, they won't hold a charge anymore." He seemed to understand completely. I guess this stupid woman wasn't smarter than an 8-year-old.
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    • #3
      *sniff* She's an idiot. I just ordered a new battery for my landline phone's cordless precisely because it doesn't hold a charge worth a flip now. How old is the phone? Three years, if I recall correctly. Usually, I have the handset die first, rather than the battery. It's rather nice to have it the other way around.
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      • #4
        Sucky Customer uses Entitlement Grab!

        It's super defective!
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        • #5
          Quoth Jay 2K Winger View Post
          Sucky Customer uses Entitlement Grab!

          It's super defective!
          This site needs a "like" button! (Yes, I know it's been said before, many times.)
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          • #6
            Quoth Jay 2K Winger View Post
            Sucky Customer uses Entitlement Grab!

            It's super defective!
            Genius uses Repel

            Sucky Customer is confused!

            Sucky Customer hurt herself in the confusion

            Genius uses business card

            It's super effective!

            Sucky Customer flees!
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            • #7
              Quoth raudf View Post
              *sniff* She's an idiot. I just ordered a new battery for my landline phone's cordless precisely because it doesn't hold a charge worth a flip now. How old is the phone? Three years, if I recall correctly. Usually, I have the handset die first, rather than the battery. It's rather nice to have it the other way around.
              We replaced the batteries for both our smartphones - ordering offline I think they were something like $6 or $7 each.

              Now we get good long battery life =)
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              • #8
                Quoth MadMike View Post
                Some people are just plain stupid, I suppose. My one friend's car died on him a couple of years ago, and he needed me to come out and give him a jump. He had one of his kids with him, who was maybe 8 years old at the time. While we were hooking everything up, the kid asked why, if you can just recharge a car battery, do they need to be replaced. I simply told him, "After a few years, they won't hold a charge anymore." He seemed to understand completely. I guess this stupid woman wasn't smarter than an 8-year-old.
                She was probably verbal sparring to get a free battery, the usual. I think when people go tit for tat like she did, they're playing stupid and trying to get over. I need to get one soon myself for my MacBook Pro and those batteries aren't cheap, on Apple's site they're $129. OP said it best when they said:

                Me: *What?? Lady, if it were defective, why didn't you bring it back when it was still under warranty? This lady clearly does not understand how warranties work.*"

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                • #9
                  At the Genius Bar, they gave me my new battery for $99, but I had to agree to a 3 month warranty instead of a 1 year warranty. I figured it was a good bet to save $30.
                  They say that God only gives us what we can handle. Apparently, God thinks I'm a bad ass.

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                  • #10
                    Apple also tends to be rather generous if something has a realistic chance of having been their fault, because they want loyal repeat customers and treating them right tends to make them keep coming back. I'm a reg in a Mac channel on IRC and some of the things they've done for customers have been astonishing.

                    Generally, if they say it's routine, it really truly is.

                    (The one exception is the water sensor in iPhones. They're overly sensitive and often end up a blame fallback for completely unrelated issues.)
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