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  • Paypal Drama (with a happy ending)

    So thought I'd share a bit of drama that happened to Hubby and myself at the tail-end of summer.

    Imagine if you will logging into your e-mail late one evening only to find a pair of e-mails from Paypal. The first is a receipt of payment to Facebook Payments and catches you off guard, because you're rarely if ever on Facebook and have never had reason to send them money for anything. But hey, you think, maybe your husband bought something recently that had to go through them for some reason. He had one or two other recent purchases via Paypal, after all.

    But then you look at the other: a warning from Paypal that they noticed suspicious activity on your account.

    Yep, that's what I got to deal with back in August. Thankfully, Paypal's "suspicious activity" e-mail came only 10 minutes after the Facebook payment one, and included information that they'd already locked down my account just to be sure while they and I checked everything out.

    I did some digging and discovered that the Facebook payment was in Taiwanese dollars to the tune of NT$3,000 or so ($103 in USD). I couldn't track down what group had supposedly received my money, but I dutifully filled out the fraud report form for Paypal to let them know that I in absolutely no way had authorized such a payment. I also went and changed the passwords on all my important accounts (Hubby helping out) and changed my security questions and whatnot to make sure I wouldn't get locked out of Paypal and other sites should someone have actually gotten a hold of my information to do this in the first place. Then, while I waited for Paypal to get a hold of Facebook and sort things out, I did some more poking around.

    Apparently Facebook had somehow gotten an authorized payment attached to my Paypal account without me ever authorizing it. I immediately shut that down once I found out about it (and sent Paypal feedback to the effect that I was not happy that this happened without my knowledge at ALL).

    In the end, it took about a week but Paypal finished resolving the issue in my favor and restored my account access in full. You can bet that since then I've been keeping my eye on the billing agreement section of the site to make sure nothing else pops up.

    But I'm definitely happy that Paypal was faster on the draw than I was and helped out with that. I can't imagine trying to get my money back from Facebook all by my lonesome.
    "Enough expository banter. It's time we fight like men. And ladies. And ladies who dress like men. For Gilgamesh...IT'S MORPHING TIME!"
    - Gilgamesh, Final Fantasy V

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    Yikes!

    I'm assuming going through whatever FB apps you have didn't lend any clues? Did you talk to them about it at all, or just PayPal? Anything the rest of us should look out for?

    SO glad this resolved well. Like you, I can't imagine trying to face down the FB behemoth w/o another heavy hitter on my side.

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      Quoth sms001 View Post
      Yikes!

      I'm assuming going through whatever FB apps you have didn't lend any clues? Did you talk to them about it at all, or just PayPal? Anything the rest of us should look out for?
      I only spoke with Paypal, so I don't have any clue what FB had to say for themselves. I'm still very confused how it could've happened in the first place since I don't run any FB apps, and am barely on there, in fact. My friend's list is limited to immediate family (sisters, parents, and in-laws) and very close friends, and I don't play any of the games or use any of the fancy features or anything. Which is why I'm still confused as to how the payment agreement ended up on my Paypal account in the first place. I still suspect password compromise somehow, which is why my very first step when I got the notification was to go and change that password on every account that used it. Either that, or they're able to do it just via e-mail address, which is a failing on Paypal's part.

      The thing to watch out for, from my reading, is to just periodically check on Paypal to make sure payment agreements don't show up like that. You can find that under Profile > My Money > My Preapproved Payments (you'll have to click the "Update" link to see what you've got set up so far). The entry listed them as "Facebook Ireland, Ltd." with "Facebook Payments" as the description. Some people end up with these agreements showing up because they buy credit in some of the Facebook games (I see Zynga listed a lot in complaints), but others just have it happen randomly like me.

      Until Paypal fixes the problem where these can apply without notification to the customer, the best defense I can see is just keeping track of your automatic payments.
      "Enough expository banter. It's time we fight like men. And ladies. And ladies who dress like men. For Gilgamesh...IT'S MORPHING TIME!"
      - Gilgamesh, Final Fantasy V

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