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    So, I just started a new job at a well known pet chain's salon, working as a bather - basically, I just wash and dry the dogs, do their nails, sanitary trims, ear cleaning and teeth, not the full cut and style. For the most part it's pretty cool, and I love working with animals all day. We even get to accept tips, and I've gotten some pretty good ones from a few customers happy with how good their dog looked and how happy they were when I handled them (Thank you vet training and lots of experience for teaching me how to properly handle animals!)

    Of course, no job is perfect.


    To the "My dog is an angel!" Lady....When I was trying to trim her nails, she started snapping, biting, and struggling enough that she was a danger not only to me, but to herself. That's why she went in the Cone of Shame. It was either that or we put her in the kennel without doing her nails and call you to get her right that moment, because we're not getting bitten by the dog you keep insisting is just the sweetest little cream puff ever.

    Speaking of cream puffs, maybe cut back on them for the dog a bit. That kind of weight on a dog that size is not healthy. Anyway, don't throw a fit when you look in the salon window and see her in a cone when it's for her own - and our - safety.

    To the owners of the 'junkyard dog' beagle...I don't care whether you just got him to guard your residence/junkyard or whatever, YOU DO NOT LEAVE A DOG IN FILTH UNTIL THEIR SKIN STARTS ROTTING OFF AND THEIR FUR LOOKS BLACK WHEN IT'S A TRICOLOR DOG. Yeah, you asked me about those weird bald patches on his ears, elbows and flanks? Well, that looked a lot like mange to me, and considering the state of the poor thing's eyes and ears (both infected, they insisted they weren't but I've had vet training and worked with rescues my whole life, I know what infection looks like) it wouldn't surprise me if he had it. It took three washings to get him clean, and there's no hope for his teeth. You were complaining about his breath? Yeah. Rotted-to-the-core teeth will do that to ya. I left a note in his file for them to get him to a vet, but I doubt they will. As little care as he's had so far (they're 'regulars' that evidently bring him in once or twice a YEAR, and he never gets bathed between those visits. No one else wanted to touch him, which was why he fell to me) I highly doubt they'd even consider a vet trip for the poor dear.

    To the owners of several dogs: For heaven's sake, BATHE YOUR DARN DOGS EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE. Run a brush through their coats maybe once or twice a week, at least! Bringing them in after their fur has become matted all the way to the skin and their skin is starting to rot beneath it isn't enough! Brush them at home! Oh, and don't bitch about the price of de-matting them, you wouldn't be paying it if you took care of them. No, sorry, we can't just brush it out and leave the fur all on, matting like that has to be shaved off. If you didn't want a bald dog you should have freakin' brushed them and kept their coats clean!


    Happier things:

    EEEE CHOW PUPPY CHOW PUPPY HE WAS SO FLUFFY AND SWEET AND I WANTED TO HUG THE BIG COTTON BALL FOREVER.

    Also had someone bring in a bunch of Cavalier King Charles Spaniels to get their nails done, and even if the one I was taking care of (we split them up among the group to work faster) decided to lick my face while I was speaking to his owner and I got dog tongue in my mouth (not the first time, probably not the last), he was so sweet, stayed perfectly still so I could do his nails, didn't snap or growl or anything at all - they were all perfect little angels! We did have to remove a mat on the male Cavalier, but it was small and pretty normal for the breed and activity level. His owners will be bringing him back in a week or two for all of them to get trimmed up and bathed.

    A lot of the dogs are total sweeties and wonderfully obedient (we get a lot of purebred show dogs), but we do get some that the owners clearly think tossing a few bucks once or twice a year to get someone else to bathe them is sufficient care. Nope, not even for a shorthaired dog. Take care of your animals, or don't get them.
    The customer is always WRONG.

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    I didnt even know it was possible for a dogs skin to rot from not bathing it...(please note... this might be because my dogs get bathed.)

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    • #3
      When we got Mop (Yes, really) we thought he was an all black Lhasa Apso. He'd been badly neglected.

      After cutting, bathing, brushing, cutting, bathing, de-fleaing, shaving and finally bathing him again we discovered he was actually a black and white Shih-Tzu/Lhasa-Apso cross.

      We cut four pounds of fur off the poor little thing. His ear was matted to his shoulder so he couldn't move his head in one direction. We also discovered he was missing an eye.

      It broke my heart then and still hurts to think about.

      It took 18 months for his skin to recover, and he still has issues with it being incredibly itchy and very flaky. Good food is helping though.

      Is there any way you could report these owners anonymously to your local Animal Protection organization? In the UK the RSPCA don't reveal sources names.

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      • #4
        Quoth Golden Phoenix View Post

        Is there any way you could report these owners anonymously to your local Animal Protection organization? In the UK the RSPCA don't reveal sources names.
        I wish we could, but there are customer privacy policies and stuff in place, so we can't. Evidently animal control wouldn't really do anything about it anyway, as bringing the dogs in to us shows to them that they're at least making some small effort to take care of them, even if it nearly isn't enough, and that's enough that the animals won't be taken away. We just have to do our best and try to get them to take better care of their animals.

        Quoth barainga View Post
        I didnt even know it was possible for a dogs skin to rot from not bathing it...(please note... this might be because my dogs get bathed.)
        It is. Possible for human skin too, any living thing's skin can and will begin to die and rot after too much accumulated filth and neglect.
        Last edited by EricKei; 02-08-2014, 03:31 AM. Reason: merged consecutive posts
        The customer is always WRONG.

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        • #5
          Quoth Faetouched View Post
          Happier things:

          EEEE CHOW PUPPY CHOW PUPPY HE WAS SO FLUFFY AND SWEET AND I WANTED TO HUG THE BIG COTTON BALL FOREVER.
          I have a chow who is my baby. She is now 7 years and is the absolute sweetest dog I have ever had. It amazes me how many people are scared of her. As said by many it is how you treat them and in my case every animal I have ever had and have always been family members and no less.

          And for the poor neglected beagle hopefully there is some agency or person you can let know of the situation this poor dog has to endure.
          Please wait patiently I have enough sarcasm for everyone.

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          • #6
            Several years ago, on a dog message board I used to read, somebody who was a groomer related a story about a dog that had been rescued from a mill and taken in to be groomed The poor thing had been severely matted for so long, the mats had cut off all the circulation to one of it's legs. When she shaved the mats off, the leg was attached to the mat, not the body!

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            • #7
              It just pisses me off to no end to see how horribly some people treat their animals. The level of neglect the OP is talking about is nearly as bad as outright physical violence. If they can't be bothered to give their animal basic care and grooming, why the hell did they adopt it in the first place?!

              Do you (the neglectful pet owners) go for weeks without bathing, combing your hair, brushing your teeth or eating properly? No, of course not. But you see nothing wrong with putting your loving dog through that. A fellow living being, just like you, and you give it no more thought than a pebble in the street, even though you are the center of its world. Absolutely shameful. These folks ought to be pilloried.
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              • #8
                I've watched some truly hideous dog rescue videos on YouTube ... especially some by Eldad Hagar (I think that's how it's spelled). Yeah, it apparently is possible for badly matted hair to cause the skin to become seriously "compromised."

                I had a cat with long hair (and now I've got another ... ... and when he got older he stopped grooming himself properly. I bit the bullet and took him to a groomer, and told the groomer, "He's not a show cat. If you have to shave him anywhere, do so." My current longhair will go the same route when he gets older. I do what I can with brushes and combs, but I'm not very good at it. and once matting starts, you need four hands -- two to keep the cat steady and two to cut the matting off.

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                • #9
                  Quoth Faetouched View Post
                  It is. Possible for human skin too, any living thing's skin can and will begin to die and rot after too much accumulated filth and neglect.
                  Even with care, human skin can rot. Excess moisture (eg, sweat) can get caught in folds, and in a matter of hours, abrasion and moisture can destroy the epidermis. It's quite painful - and happens to me every summer, unless I make constant (and I do mean constant) use of moisture-barrier creams. I have permanent discolouration scars under my arms from it.

                  (If anyone else has a similar problem, talk to your pharmacist about barrier creams. Many will be 'diaper rash' or 'nappy rash' creams: that's fine. Whatever works.)


                  Pixelated,
                  Age-related matting can happen to short-haired cats too. My beloved Seph had areas on her body she could no longer reach, once age got to her.
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                  • #10
                    Quoth Faetouched View Post
                    To the owners of several dogs: For heaven's sake, BATHE YOUR DARN DOGS EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE. Run a brush through their coats maybe once or twice a week, at least! Bringing them in after their fur has become matted all the way to the skin and their skin is starting to rot beneath it isn't enough! Brush them at home! Oh, and don't bitch about the price of de-matting them, you wouldn't be paying it if you took care of them. No, sorry, we can't just brush it out and leave the fur all on, matting like that has to be shaved off. If you didn't want a bald dog you should have freakin' brushed them and kept their coats clean!
                    And this is why we shave 2 of our long-haired cats, because even when we try to keep them brushed their fur mats so darn quickly that we can't keep up with it. We'd rather pay the money to have someone who knows what they're doing shave them down than have them live with hugs mats around their joints and bellies.

                    People who adopt animals and then don't take care of them properly make me so angry

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                    • #11
                      I was pet sittig for a couple who left me their Yorkie. It was one giant mat. They said she didn't want to be brushed and was afraid of trimmers. I purchased 75 dollar quiet trimmers and shaved her bald. She was so deaf she never heard it. She was recurs from a puppy mill before they got her. 2 months later they had never returned to pick her up. She was my baby for five more years and would cuddle in my or my moms lap for brushes daily. I guess he key is be genteel and don't resent your animals.

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                      • #12
                        Just wondering; if the dog has obvious signs of a contagious infection or infestation like fleas and ticks, can you reject grooming them for fear they will infect other animals in the salon? Or do you have a 'quarantine zone' that you can groom sick animals in? How do you keep yourself safe, because I believe humans can get mange/ringworms also?
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                        • #13
                          Quoth Faetouched View Post
                          To the owners of several dogs: For heaven's sake, BATHE YOUR DARN DOGS EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE. Run a brush through their coats maybe once or twice a week, at least!
                          I honestly never knew that, and I've owned three dogs, one lived 17 years (shepherd/husky I still miss him daily). None ever got a bath unless they rolled in something stinky. For the pug that meant about once a year, for the other two maybe once a month. All had regular vet care and no skin or coat problems. And they usually only got regular brushing for a month or so twice a year at shedding season. I'm thinking of getting a dog again in the next year. How often should they bathe? My dogs have always come to the water when we go, swimming while we fish or swim; does that count as a bath or should bath schedule be on top of that?

                          Genuinely curious...
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                          • #14
                            Quoth Faetouched View Post
                            I wish we could, but there are customer privacy policies and stuff in place, so we can't. Evidently animal control wouldn't really do anything about it anyway, as bringing the dogs in to us shows to them that they're at least making some small effort to take care of them, even if it nearly isn't enough, and that's enough that the animals won't be taken away. We just have to do our best and try to get them to take better care of their animals.
                            (Bolding mine)

                            Wouldn't the law overrule that policy?
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                            • #15
                              Quoth NecessaryCatharsis View Post
                              I honestly never knew that, and I've owned three dogs, one lived 17 years (shepherd/husky I still miss him daily). None ever got a bath unless they rolled in something stinky. For the pug that meant about once a year, for the other two maybe once a month. All had regular vet care and no skin or coat problems. And they usually only got regular brushing for a month or so twice a year at shedding season. I'm thinking of getting a dog again in the next year. How often should they bathe? My dogs have always come to the water when we go, swimming while we fish or swim; does that count as a bath or should bath schedule be on top of that?

                              Genuinely curious...

                              It's better for their skin and overall health to bathe them once every one or two weeks, depending on their particular fur type, if they have skin problems, age, ect. I'd say ESPECIALLY bathe them after they've been swimming in a river or ocean or wherever you swim, because you never know what they might pick up in the water. Even chlorinated pools require a bath afterwards, particularly since it might bleach their fur and make them turn green if they're already light-furred.

                              Quoth LillFilly View Post
                              Just wondering; if the dog has obvious signs of a contagious infection or infestation like fleas and ticks, can you reject grooming them for fear they will infect other animals in the salon? Or do you have a 'quarantine zone' that you can groom sick animals in? How do you keep yourself safe, because I believe humans can get mange/ringworms also?
                              If they have fleas or ticks, we give them a flea bath immediately and remove the ticks. If the owner tells us they don't have mange, unless we can prove it somehow there's not much we can do but try to keep them away from the other dogs. The kennels are in the same area, we don't have an isolation area for the dogs since the only ones we take are in 'good' health (have their rabies shots, distemper, what have you - that's about all we require unless they have a really obvious issue that the owner or a manager agrees with us is too much of a risk) so we can't just say "Yeah, we can't take this dog." Unless they are being really aggressive or otherwise dangerous.
                              Last edited by EricKei; 02-09-2014, 07:58 PM. Reason: merged consecutive posts
                              The customer is always WRONG.

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