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  • Motor Club Sucks it Down Again

    Motor club calls up, asks if we can help a customer who is out of gas in "Someothertown"

    Almost immediately, our hand is sliding the Molly-guard off the "ABORT" button on the metaphorical launch panel because we've never heard of "Someothertown" and that usually means it's someplace we don't service, i.e. nowhere near us.

    "I have the zip code if you need to look it up" the cheerful motor club lady says

    Wait, and you don't have a way to look it up? We remind her we're in the middle of the state, so it should be pretty obvious wether it's worth her time or not to even try dumping this on us. Can you at least give us a hint?

    Nope, she can't look it up, her employer has apparently not found it fit to offer her that ability. Okay, fine, what's the zip

    "It's 15......."

    Woah, you can cancel it right now, any zip consisting of "15xxx" is Pittsburgh and the surrounding environs, Western PA, nowhere NEAR us. But, because they'll ask why we're turning down this call, we do run the numbers.

    As expected, "Someothertown" is indeed about a half hour outside the Steel City, 100-some-odd miles away.

    Sorry, we can't do that, it's over a hundred miles from us.

    "So, you're refusing the call?" The lady asks, almost a bit shocked.

    Uh, are the Cleveland Browns putrid? Of course we're turning it down! You expect us to drive 6 some hours round-trip?! To deliver TWO GALLONS of gas??!!! The ridiculous loss of man-hours and meager profit we'll see (Probably less than $10 when it's all figured out) means it's NOT WORTH IT.

    More to the point. You really THINK your customer is going to ACCEPT a 3 hour ETA? At that rate, they'd have better luck WALKING to the nearest gas pump themselves. It'd be faster for them to just drag the car by it's bumper to the nearest Sheetz store with their teeth! And trust me, when you cheerfully tell them help is on the way from the OTHER SIDE OF THE ALLEGHENY FRONT, you know, where all the rivers stopping flowing east and instead flow towards the MISSISSIPPI? Well, you just might make them mad enough to accomplish that very feat!

    This is hardly unique. As I've related before, considering the lackluster economy over the last few years, the motor clubs have become very determined to increase their profit margins and have decided to do so by frequently finding loopholes or paperwork mistakes to deny paying the tow services what they owe.

    It's gotten so bad with some of them that they are refusing to pay for services it says right ON THE FAXES they send us that the member is covered for. They'll swear up and down that even though it says "Covered for $200" that someone must've goofed because that member only had $50 of coverage, so that's all they'll pay and we'll just have to eat the rest.

    Uh huh, no. Hell NO! It can take up to 6 months of back and forth before they finally pay up, usually after you tell them that if they won't pay, we don't see any reason to renew their contract when it comes due.

    Assuming we're not unique in our situation, between refusal to pay and the increased cost of fuel meaning profit on our side is almost non-existent for calls beyond 30 minutes of drive time, the number of towing services willing to put up with the teeth-pulling required to get paid by motor clubs has dwindled, rapidly.

    Naturally, so many have abandoned doing roadside services altogether that it's not unusual for us to get calls for Philly, Pittsburgh and the like all the time, with clearly-frazzeled dispatchers trying in vain to find someone they haven't ticked off, and that list gets shorter all the time.

    They've got no one to blame but themselves, how they can't see the link between what they're doing to cut corners and how it's affecting their ability to get their members the service they promised to provide in less than 4 hours, if at all, is a real mystery to me. But it seems to be endemic to the industry, when I came aboard about 5 years back, my binder had the rates/rules for at least 8 different clubs.

    We're now down to 4, with one of them likely to get the boot for reneging on a $500 tow we did for them last month.

    I feel bad for their customers, paying that premium for the joy of 2 hour waits on the phone and another 3 for a truck.
    - They say nothing good happens at 2AM, they're right, I happen at 2AM.

  • #2
    Quoth Argabarga View Post
    You really THINK your customer is going to ACCEPT a 3 hour ETA?
    Considering the kind of weather you guys have been having lately...

    Quoth Argabarga View Post
    We're now down to 4, with one of them likely to get the boot for reneging on a $500 tow we did for them last month.
    Take 'em to court?

    Quoth Argabarga View Post
    I feel bad for their customers, paying that premium for the joy of 2 hour waits on the phone and another 3 for a truck.
    It sounds like they're trying to drive themselves out of business.
    Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, you speak with the Fraud department. -- CrazedClerkthe2nd
    OW! Rolled my eyes too hard, saw my brain. -- Seanette
    she seems to top me in crazy, and I'm enough crazy for my family. -- Cooper
    Yes, I am evil. What's your point? -- Jester

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    • #3
      I'll say this, if I'm paying a premium price to the auto club for service they damn well had better deliver. And if that means accepting smaller profits to avoid pissing off the towing companies that actually do the work then they'd better bite the bullet. Because eventually some member who's a lawyer will not be pleased with his "service" and will let them know with a court date...

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      • #4
        I'm so glad I'm in a area where I'm less then 75 miles from not 1 but 4 different tow companies that accept my insurance. I have even have the option of 1 that if your within 5 miles of Kazoo or IN Kazoo he'll come get you for 50 bucks.

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        • #5
          Saw this one and thought of you;

          http://consumerist.com/2014/03/03/dr...ction-sticker/

          Now if they left the actual Short Ribs.......
          "First time I ever seen a chainsaw go down anybody's britches,"

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          • #6
            Quoth Dark Psion View Post
            Saw this one and thought of you;

            http://consumerist.com/2014/03/03/dr...ction-sticker/

            Now if they left the actual Short Ribs.......
            According to Massachusetts state law, it’s a crime to “falsely make, steal, alter, forge or counterfeit” an inspection sticker. It’s a punishable offense that could earn a driver a fine of up to $500 and a maximum of five years in a state prison.
            Of course, the offender is probably going to pull the "bad fake" loophole, namely that no reasonable person would mistake a short rib recipe for an inspection sticker, so that what he did couldn't be considered forging or counterfeiting an inspection sticker.
            Any fool can piss on the floor. It takes a talented SC to shit on the ceiling.

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            • #7
              Quoth eltf177 View Post
              I'll say this, if I'm paying a premium price to the auto club for service they damn well had better deliver. And if that means accepting smaller profits to avoid pissing off the towing companies that actually do the work then they'd better bite the bullet. Because eventually some member who's a lawyer will not be pleased with his "service" and will let them know with a court date...
              I've never signed up for a club, so I have no idea what's in the rules and regulations, but there has to be something there to somehow compensate a customer when they can't find anyone to do the service.

              In fact, that's probably why so many try to avoid paying us, I'm betting a lot of this comes about by the club intentionally telling us they're member is covered just so we'll do it and they don't have to pay some large penalty, and are more willing to try and fight it out with us over pissing off the person who pays them their dues, if they can beat us down to only accepting half or 3/4ths of what they really owe, they probably still come out ahead.

              And, as you can see, doing that leaves you in the same pickle, it just comes at you from a different direction.
              - They say nothing good happens at 2AM, they're right, I happen at 2AM.

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              • #8
                Quoth Argabarga View Post
                In fact, that's probably why so many try to avoid paying us, I'm betting a lot of this comes about by the club intentionally telling us they're member is covered just so we'll do it and they don't have to pay some large penalty, and are more willing to try and fight it out with us over pissing off the person who pays them their dues, if they can beat us down to only accepting half or 3/4ths of what they really owe, they probably still come out ahead.
                You'd think that with losing service providers due to pissing them off, the auto clubs would smarten up and treat the few they have left better. After all, if they wound up losing ALL their providers in a given area, but continued to sell memberships to people living in that area promising emergency road service, and some member who's a lawyer found out why he wasn't getting the service he was paying for, he'd start using the "F-word" (nope, not the one that you can't say on TV - selling a service that you know you can't provide is fraud).
                Any fool can piss on the floor. It takes a talented SC to shit on the ceiling.

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                • #9
                  Quoth wolfie View Post
                  You'd think that with losing service providers due to pissing them off, the auto clubs would smarten up and treat the few they have left better.
                  Just like when SCs get banned from stores, you'd think they would start behaving better in the stores they haven't been banned from.

                  But what you think isn't what happens.
                  "I don't have to be petty. The Universe does that for me."

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                  • #10
                    I have to say, I can't feel bad for the clubs that are doing this. They're trying to double-end the screw-ups in order to get the most profit, and it's so pathetic when they end up in the muck. Too many corps think they can get away with this sort of thing and don't have an exit strategy.

                    However, I do feel bad for everyone around them. They have to put up with the crap until the club fails entirely. *rolls eyes*

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                    • #11
                      Oh they have an exit strategy: bankruptcy with golden parachutes for the planners of this nonsense.
                      I'm trying to see things from your point of view, but I can't get my head that far up my keister!

                      Who is John Galt?
                      -Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

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                      • #12
                        Quoth Deserted
                        It sounds like they're trying to drive themselves out of business.
                        No. It sounds exactly like Argabarga said - that they're greedy bastards who will screw over their contractors any way they can in order to improve their profit margins. The 'driving themselves out of business' thing is just a consequence of that mindset. But of course the people running the show at those companies don't see that far ahead.

                        This practice isn't exactly new, either. But it's a comparatively recent development where they've managed to alienate most of their former contractors to the point that it's actually difficult to find someone willing to put up with their shit.

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                        • #13
                          We had two contractors locally go out of business, in the last 5 or six years, they simply could not hire enough trades anymore to build a house, they had pissed off/ripped off/flipped off so many people. Then they have the nerve to act like everyone else they ever meet is unreasonable, all the subs they have ever hired are crooks, and they themselves are perfectly reasonable. One them actually crashed and burned in a building association awards night. That was entertaining to watch.

                          I can imagine the motor clubs pulling the same, like it is fault of the big bad local service providers that they won't help the poor stranded driver, while they are blameless and are just trying to help people.
                          Pain and suffering are inevitable...misery is optional.

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                          • #14
                            Oh yes, we get a lot of "But this member NEEDS help!"

                            I'm sure they do, but, we are NOT driving 90 miles for a tow that amounts to 2 blocks of towing.
                            - They say nothing good happens at 2AM, they're right, I happen at 2AM.

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                            • #15
                              Also, if a club is calling you to help a member who's 3 hours away, WHY aren't they calling a closer provider? If the providers closer to the stranded member won't do business with that club, there's probably a good reason - i.e. the club would probably pull shenanigans with you as well once it comes time to send the bill.
                              Any fool can piss on the floor. It takes a talented SC to shit on the ceiling.

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