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  • "The tower is down, credit my whole bill!"

    When Math and entitlement collide

    Ok, let's make sure I'm clear on this:

    - You are having signal issues with your phone
    - I already told you there's been an outage in your area for around 6 hours now
    - I also told you we expect to have the outage fixed within another 6 hours
    - You tell me you are some super important movie producer that simply can't be without his phone
    - And now you want me to credit you for an ENTIRE month of service for an outage that will last, at most, 12 hours?

    Not gonna happen.

    I try to be fair with this guy, dividing his monthly cost by 30 to determine his daily cost and then dividing that by two to figure out what we owe him for 12 hours of missed service. He then becomes "immeasurably insulted" than I am only offering him $4.12 in credit.

    We go around in circles a few times before he then demands to speak to "someone who understands how customer service works". Fighting every urge to say: "well that would be me sir, how can I help you?", I pass him along to my supervisor. End result? He never even got the $4.12, he just cussed us out and hung up.

    No phone? The Horror, the Horror!!

    Dealing with the people I do you'd think society is going to fall pieces if cell phones ever stop working for more than about two days.

    It's a simple scenario: Your phone is not working. You're eligible for a warranty replacement. We can send one out to you.

    And it usually goes downhill from here:

    - Sure we can send it Fedex or UPS, that'll be $10 extra on your next bill
    - No, I can't waive the fee because you're a long time customer
    - No, I can't waive the fee because you would be "seriously inconvenienced" by going without a phone for more than two days.
    - No, I can't waive the fee because you "really need your phone"
    - No, I can't waive the fee because you "spend hundreds of dollars with us every month"
    - No, my supervisor can't do any of these things either, but feel free to try him if you wish.

    These calls get even more fun on a Friday...

    - No, we don't ship on weekends
    - No, I can't waive the fee because you won't have a phone until at least Monday,
    - No, you can't go to a store and just get a phone there.
    - No, not even if I talk to a store manager first (which I won't)
    - No, I can't credit your account so you can buy a cheap phone to get you through the weekend.


    Boulevard of Broken (phone) dreams

    SC: I'm pretty pissed off with you people right now, where do you get off charging me $400 for a phone?!
    Me: Let me take a look at why you were charged. Ah, ok. It says here you did a warranty exchange and the phone you sent back had a crack in the screen. We don't accept damaged devices for warranty claims so that's why you were charged.
    SC: But the phone wouldn't charge!
    Me: I'm sorry?
    SC: The phone would NOT charge, that's why it was replaced. That has nothing to do with a broken screen.
    Me: It probably doesn't. but --
    SC: And the screen was broken before it had the charging problem anyway.
    Me: There's a very good possibility that you are right. Many times a phone with a slight bit of screen damage can work perfectly fine but regardless we still can't accept a warranty claim for any reason if there is clear damage on the device.
    SC: IT WAS ALREADY BROKE! I broke it months ago, the charging problem only started in the past couple of weeks. Do you not understand what I'm telling you?
    Me: I understand perfectly, what I am trying to make clear to you is that if you send a damaged phone back to us on a warranty claim, the claim will be denied and you will be charged, regardless of when the damage happened or if it's related to the reason for the claim.
    SC: That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
    Me: Well, that is our policy. If you like I can help you set up a payment plan for the $400.
    SC: I am NOT PAYING $400! I don't care about your policy, you take this charge off my bill right now!
    Me: As I previously explained, I can't. The policy is very clear here, if you send back a damaged phone you are charged.
    SC: Well, I never accepted that policy.
    Me: Actually, you did.
    SC: WHAT?!
    Me: There is documentation we send with the replacement phones that specifically states that by sending us back the defective phone you are agreeing to our warranty return policy. You might not have read the sheet, but by sending the phone back you agreed to the policy.
    SC: That is complete and utter bullshit and you and I both know it. Either you take this charge off right now or I get my lawyer involved!
    Me: Since you have now threatened legal action against the company please hold while I transfer you to our legal department. Have a great day.

    Would you believe I got QA'd on that call and I aced it?

    The NSA has hacked my phone!!

    I'd say about once every couple of weeks I get a call from some paranoid nutjob convinced that the NSA, the CIA or the mighty President Obama himself is monitoring all the communications on their cellphone and wanting my help in stopping that from happening. This is comical for several reasons:

    1. These people actually believe the NSA/CIA/whomever else has the time, resources and inclination to monitor their cell phone. I am aware that sometimes these agencies do carry out such activities, but that is very uncommon and most of the people I talk to I wouldn't exactly classify as national security threats.

    2. They also believe that I, a lowly call center rep, actually possess the technological know how to foil hacking procedures developed and used by highly trained operatives miles above my pay grade.
    "If we refund your money, give you a free replacement and shoot the manager, then will you be happy?" - sign seen in a restaurant

  • #2
    I'd say about once every couple of weeks I get a call from some paranoid nutjob convinced that the NSA, the CIA or the mighty President Obama himself is monitoring all the communications on their cellphone and wanting my help in stopping that from happening.
    "Yours and mine and everybody else's, buddy. Ain't a thing we can do about it short of exercisin' our constitutional rights, if you know what I mean."
    Supporting the idiots charged with protecting your personal information.

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    • #3
      Quoth CrazedClerkthe2nd View Post
      When Math and entitlement collide

      Ok, let's make sure I'm clear on this:

      - You are having signal issues with your phone
      - I already told you there's been an outage in your area for around 6 hours now
      - I also told you we expect to have the outage fixed within another 6 hours
      - You tell me you are some super important movie producer that simply can't be without his phone
      - And now you want me to credit you for an ENTIRE month of service for an outage that will last, at most, 12 hours?

      Not gonna happen.

      I try to be fair with this guy, dividing his monthly cost by 30 to determine his daily cost and then dividing that by two to figure out what we owe him for 12 hours of missed service. He then becomes "immeasurably insulted" than I am only offering him $4.12 in credit.
      Giving him a fraction of an inch of credit... I could see him asking for the entire day to be credited (I mean, if you think about it, you are going to sleep for 8 hours, and 12 hours of the remaining 16 that you are awake is pretty close to the whole day)... if there was a 12 hour outage, that is what I would personally ask for... but the entire month... yeah, get over yourself.
      If you wish to find meaning, listen to the music not the song

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      • #4
        Quoth CrazedClerkthe2nd View Post


        Boulevard of Broken (phone) dreams
        I deal with mobile phone warranties in store, so face to face, everyday, and this is a common occurrence. A warranty is for a whole device, not for bits and pieces.

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        • #5
          Are we sure the 'Paranoid' people are not just prank callers. OK, I know a couple are real, but most have to be prank callers. Right? *Lord our God, please let most of those calls have been pranks. Amen*

          Also, congratulations on acing a QA. I suspect that the QA was not 'random', but it is nice when everyone else agrees with your handling of the situation. (and looks darn good on your next preformance review)
          I might be crazy, but I'm not Insane.

          What? You don't play with flamethrowers on the weekends? You are strange.

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          • #6
            Quoth CrazedClerkthe2nd View Post
            And it usually goes downhill from here:

            - Sure we can send it Fedex or UPS, that'll be $10 extra on your next bill
            - No, I can't waive the fee because you're a long time customer
            - No, I can't waive the fee because you would be "seriously inconvenienced" by going without a phone for more than two days.
            - No, I can't waive the fee because you "really need your phone"
            - No, I can't waive the fee because you "spend hundreds of dollars with us every month"
            - No, my supervisor can't do any of these things either, but feel free to try him if you wish.
            I get some of the frustration on this one, to a degree. I moved into my house seven years ago. At the time, a small spin off company (yet still national) of Sprint owned the rights to be my one and only phone/DSL service. I have no access to cable, I'm pretty much stuck with it (still, though there's rumor we're getting lines in this year). After about 6 months of dialup they finally offered DSL in my area. So up until a few months ago I had a swanky Zytel 660R rolling non-stop in bridged mode with no issues. Then, one day, it just decided that it could no longer stand living in my house and died.

            Cue my calling my service provider. Except, it's no longer small spin off company, and hasn't been for years. I explain the problem and get back "Well, it's been 7 years, it was just a good day to die". I agree and ask what can be done. The response was "Well, we'll send you out a new box for $20 and have you up on your way!". Great! When will it get here? "Oh, 5 business days, and you've got a holiday weekend coming up". Wooooooooooooah there trigger. I use this service for business, that shit ain't gonna fly. What else have you got? "Well, you can go to your local CompanyCo office and pick one up". Groovy. "Except if you do that you'll have to eat a $10/mo lease fee". Woooooooooooooooah, what?? The same exact box but since I'm picking it up it's now a Lease? WTF?? "That's the policy". Sigh... FINE. Send it. I'll figure out something else in the meantime. I really fail to see how sending me one by post, beyond the time it takes to get here, is any different at all in me picking one up at a corporate store. Just... why??

            In the end I picked up a starter kit at Yellow Box Tag store whilst waiting on my new gear. I briefly used the Yellow Box router and resold it, but the thing CompanyCo sent me... my God, what a hunk of crap! It's a Westell WiFi router that just will NOT play nice nice with my existing Linksys 610N, which had been behind that Zytel just fine forever. The Westell refuses to go into bridged mode properly, and though the one for Giant Checkmark has great online docs, CompanyCo does not (for the same device).

            In the end I gave up. A neighbor up the street had extra Zytel 660's and just gave me one for free. The 610N is once again behind the Zytel in bridged mode, and the Westell serves as a secondary for those that I want to speed constrain as just a crappy wireless access point.
            But the paint on me is beginning to dry
            And it's not what I wanted to be
            The weight on me
            Is Hanging on to a weary angel - Sister Hazel

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            • #7
              Quoth CrazedClerkthe2nd View Post
              1. These people actually believe the NSA/CIA/whomever else has the time, resources and inclination to monitor their cell phone. I am aware that sometimes these agencies do carry out such activities, but that is very uncommon and most of the people I talk to I wouldn't exactly classify as national security threats.
              The Three Letter Agencies absolutely do have the time and inclination to monitor everyone's cell phone. It's true they don't have the resources to do it to everyone. They mostly just let algorithms listen in and listen for certain key phrases or words or patterns.

              And then ... well, then they Take An Interest In You.
              PWNADE(TM) - Serve up a glass today! | PWNZER - An act of pwnage so awesome, it's like the victim got hit by a tank.

              There are only Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse because I choose to walk!

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              • #8
                Wait until you get the call from the woman who swears that two of your fellow employees are hacking into her account. How does she know they are doing this? Why, they tell her telepathically, of course!

                Never mind the fact that if they had telepathy, they'd be working for the government.. probably being experimented on... and not at a telcom. It's really trying to not tell people that they need their meds adjusted.
                If I make no sense, I apologize. I'm constantly interrupted by an actual toddler.

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                • #9
                  Me: Since you have now threatened legal action against the company please hold while I transfer you to our legal department. Have a great day.
                  When I was still handling front-line customer service, this was the single most satisfying thing to say to someone that had gotten belligerent and was trying to intimidate me with legal action we both knew they were never going to take. It was essentially a switch for that customer: The MOMENT they threaten legal action, no customer service rep can have a conversation with them any more. Their record comes up when they call with a little box 'send customer to Legal'. Conversation stops there.

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                  • #10
                    Quoth Gilhelmi View Post
                    Are we sure the 'Paranoid' people are not just prank callers. OK, I know a couple are real, but most have to be prank callers. Right? *Lord our God, please let most of those calls have been pranks. Amen*
                    I'm sure some are, but I'm also positive a good number aren't. The non pranks I tend to think of the as the extreme Fox News crowd.
                    "If we refund your money, give you a free replacement and shoot the manager, then will you be happy?" - sign seen in a restaurant

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