Doesn't the army have lots of rules?

[HotelMinion]

A dumb guy comes in and asks for the rate for 'an army veteran'. He looks pretty young, maybe in his twenties. I tell him, then he demands the biggest room. So I tell him the govt rate does cover it, and he look very happy.
"Do you have your govt ID?"
His face falls. "No but..."
"I can't give you the govt rate unless I see proof."
He starts throwing gangs hand signs: "Yo, that's f***ing bullshit yo." and saying that he was too in the army, and why didn't I believe him, it was because I didn't like him and I didn't like him for some reason because I was racist probably.
"One" I said, " We're the same race." He shrugs in assent. "Two:" I continue, "I don't even know you. why would I dislike you."
He scoffs and says for some reason people don't like him at all. Gee, wonder why, he's got so much charm!
I tell him that there was a lot of govt people and every one had to show their govt ID as proof. He said he don't care and start cursing again. Nearly threw him out but...was busy making coffee before the coffee cuckoos started crying.
Didn't give him the rate. I bet even if he was in the army, he was dishonorably discharged. Ugh. Isn't the army very rule orientated?
Maybe I should've thrown him out. Hate people who don't go by the rules that I DIDN'T MAKE. I feel sorry for the maids that have to clean up the mess tomorrow that will undoubtedly do.
To top it off, Old Sign Guy came down and gave me glares all night long. What a creepo. Yeah it was NOT a fun night.

[Argabarga]

Does the army have rules?

Oh do they ever.

And, they kinda have brigs and MPs and Fort Leavenworth too, for when you forget to follow them.

[otter]

They also have idiotic entitled brats, almost as bad as the marines for attitude. Now, not all of them are like that, but the army and marines way of life is very macho, and that can go to your head, especially if you're a young, already full of yourself male.

[Rosco the Iroc]

If he got out after only his 1st enlistment he would not have any kind do I was in ID. Retiree's get a blue retired ID. This kind of entitlement crap pissed the rest of us off. Sure I did 20, sure I've been out of job for 3 months because what I did does not translate to civ that they understand I can do what ever. 10% off of something- thanks, but no one signs up to get a free meal once a year at the Brass Trough. (golden corral) or a lowes discount. I wish I was there to hem him up for that BS.
/rant

[Victory Sabre]

You should have told him that playing Call Of Duty on the Xbox does not mean hat he was in the Army.

[SimonF12009]

You should have told him that playing Call Of Duty on the Xbox does not mean hat he was in the Army.

Where the heck is the like button

[Bright_Star]

Whenever military personnel, whether retired, active or guard or reserve, stay at a hotel & they request the government rate, military ID is always presented at the check-in counter. They're not going to just take your word for it.

[Agent Paperclip]

From Wikipedia:

A veteran is one who has served in the armed forces, especially one who has served in combat. The National Guard and Reserve is included. It is especially applied to those who served for an entire career, usually of 20 years or more, but may be applied for someone who has only served one tour of duty. A common misconception is that only those who have served in combat or those who have retired from active duty can be called military veterans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veteran

So if the guy enlisted at 17 (youngest age in the US to enlist) and served his 8 yrs (minimum years required once you enlist) then he could be as young 25 and be considered a military veteran especially if he did a tour in the middle east which is not uncommon nowadays.

Forgot to add: However his attitude was NOT appropriate for anyone who served in the military and if he really was in the military then he should know better that he needs to show his ID for something like this.

[Dytchdoctir]

If you've been discharged from U.S. Armed Forces, even if you have no ID you can show a copy of your form DD-214.

He might have been a Stolen Valor sighting.

[AccountingDrone]

If you've been discharged from U.S. Armed Forces, even if you have no ID you can show a copy of your form DD-214.

He might have been a Stolen Valor sighting.

Damn, ninja'd! THere are actually companies that will sell you miniatured and laminated DD214 cards for your wallet. We don't need them, Rob retired after 20 so we have the retiree cards.

Though if he claims to have been combat infantry and was in the sandbox I suppose you could ask him if he has a meat tag FWIW, I have meat tags, though mine don't say USN or USN striken out for retired, mine have the medical conditions underneath - diabetes and cardiac and penicillin allergy as those 3 are crucial, more than just identifying my body in case I am unconscious or dead.

[Seshat]

That's one of the smartest purposes for a tattoo I've ever heard of.

[raudf]

You can also get an ID if you were honorably discharged due to medical reasons after 15+ years. Oh, and are at least 80% service connected disabled. Dad doesn't use his much, except when someone asks him for more than one form of ID.

Then he pulls out six to eight legally issued cards and tells them to take their pick.

[judecat]

As a veteran, I always understood that military discounts were for active duty, retired, or medically discharged veterans, so I'm not really expecting discounts at the hardware store, or hotels, or restaurants based on 3 years of service that I served 40 years ago. Really, I'd be embarrassed to try to get discounts based on that. But then, I'm not one of the over entitled generation of today.

[EvilEmpryss]

A few military facts that need clarifying (and I'm a disabled veteran myself):

* You can enlist for only four years, not a minimum of eight. One of the more popular alternate terms for first enlistment, though, is six years. Being honorably discharged after either of those makes one a veteran. I've never actually heard of anyone enlisting for a full eight years right off the bat.

* You get a brown ID card for being discharge with a disability rating of 80% or more regardless of your years of service. The military isn't going to dick someone out of their benefits just because they became disabled in their first year of service.

* The brown ID card is also given to dependents of military members (active duty and disabled, at least, retired, too, I believe). You have to check the card to tell if it's for a disabled vet or a dependent.

* The DD 214 is definitely a legit way to prove service, but even dishonorably discharged individuals have them, so just possessing one isn't proof unless you actually read it (and that form can get cluttered if the individual did a lot of overseas service or has a lot of ribbons). I've never seen anyone carry a copy of their DD 214 who wasn't heading somewhere that the government wasn't going to be asking for it, but I like the laminated card idea. Unfortunately, I'm betting your typical worker bee who's asking for ID isn't going to know what the hell to do with a government form.

The guy was an ass, regardless, and I hope that if he is a veteran it's because the military didn't want his egotistical ass in their unit anymore.

Minion, I was always told by hotels that the government rate was for military traveling under orders; if you didn't have active orders taking you away from your home station, you weren't getting that sweet rate. Is it different now? I've never asked because of what I was told years ago.

[Rosco the Iroc]

A few military facts that need clarifying (and I'm a disabled veteran myself):

* You can enlist for only four years, not a minimum of eight. One of the more popular alternate terms for first enlistment, though, is six years. Being honorably discharged after either of those makes one a veteran. I've never actually heard of anyone enlisting for a full eight years right off the bat.

That's quite not true anymore and all 1st enlistments are 8 just what's left over is inactive. When they stop-loss'ed people they cried unfair but it's in the contract.

http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=10055

http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/joini...yearenlist.htm

National Call to Service Program
The program works like this: A recruit enlists under NCS and incurs a 15-month active-duty service obligation following completion of initial-entry training. The 15-month obligation begins after a Sailor has completed his or her respective Navy School. Navy Schools can run from three-months to 18-months depending on rating.

Following successful completion of active duty obligation, Sailors may re-enlist for additional active duty or transfer to the selected reserve for a 24-month obligation.

Upon completion of service obligation, Sailors may remain in the selected reserve or transfer to the individual ready reserve for the remainder of an eight-year national commitment.