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    Last night was another shitshow at work. I got called in at 1 due to the rain; everybody called out and apparently we had no shift lead after 5PM (the evening lead called at 1 to say she wouldn't be in). Two more ceiling panels fell down, both times narrowly missing customers (I was telling people to contact the health department as management and corporate wouldn't do anything on their own). Shithead had me picking up the tile with bare hands, then B tells me: "You really shouldn't be touching that stuff without gloves." (thanks for telling me in advance). We had one leak on the front end that extended across two tiles; shift lead had an idea to line a shopping cart with a large trash bag and position that under the drips (would catch water and any falling bits along the whole length). It was also obvious enough that customers wouldn't try to move it and we were using the cart that didn't move on its own anyway. Shithead: "Get rid of that, it's not going to work." Back to buckets (which didn't work even more (less?), got shoved around and I got dripped on quite a bit changing them. Got lectured by the new cash office person about using the large trash/bottle bags (apparently they cost the store too much) to cover the scan-gun screen and kiosk from water coming down from above. Me: "Talk to [Shithead], he wants me to use them. If we have tarps I'll be happy to use those, but until you can find some I'd like to keep the water and electricity from meeting."

    Around 7:30, the registers started failing (freezing when a card payment is processed). Both SCO and regular lanes. I knew how to fix the SCOs and make it go through, but Shithead wasn't helping (I was dealing with two failures simultaneously, Shithead was yelling "we need the card over at [third working lane]!" while I was using it to bring up the other two (why the doesn't he have the front end card?). At least once he did something that resulted in voiding the $100+ transaction that had just completed (he wouldn't let me see the receipt that printed so I have no idea if it was actually voided or because the system was just programmed to announce that when the Void button is pressed). It seemed as if things were just overloaded/bottlenecked as card transactions would go through every few seconds. I've dealt with similar failures, but never on this scale. Lots of fun error messages nobody had seen before.

    I have no doubt that while this chaos was going on, people walked out with stuff.

    Around 8PM, debit went down and stayed down for the rest of the night. EBT and credit still worked, it was something with our system. I posted signs at SCO, and repeatedly had to tell some people "Debit's not working, run it as a credit card. Do NOT enter your PIN, press the green Credit button." Some people still insisted on entering their PIN even when I was standing next to them telling them what to do (and screaming at me when it didn't work)...I was expecting them to be locked out as our system can't communicate with the bank in detail to verify a PIN...maybe they were, I have no idea. At least one person expected us to refund the ATM service fee because that was the only way for them to get cash...not happening.

    9PM, the gas points (and associate discount) were not showing up on receipts. Apparently the store router died sometime during this mess. Shithead had two people working who could have fixed it given the proper information (myself and the poor shift lead), but as he knew next to nothing about technical stuff nothing got done and we had to endure the tantrums. One guy was screaming obscenities in the store because he didn't get his way (it started with swearing at me because he "didn't want to use a machine"...there's an open cashier, you don't have to use the machine), I hope he never comes back. I did hear Shithead saying "It's not just our policy, it's state law" about something.

    At about 10:30 shift lead wanted me to help block; usually I hate blocking but wanted off the crazy carousel by then so agreed.
    Shithead: "I thought you hated blocking and would rather ring."
    Me: "It's relative. I hate ringing and this beats explaining no debit for the 45361st time. Yes, I've been keeping track."

    So, 9.5 hours (or so) when I was only scheduled for 5. Only got a 30-minute break, but that was long enough for me to make a coffee run and get some food.
    Last edited by Dreamstalker; 10-01-2015, 02:24 PM.
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  • #2
    I have no doubt that while this chaos was going on, people walked out with stuff.
    Well, yeah. Isn't that what SCO's are for? To facilitate shoplifting. I had heard that the Thieves' Guild put a lot of pressure on grocery stores nationwide to "encourage" SCO adoption.

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    • #3
      Quoth Dreamstalker View Post
      Two more ceiling panels fell down, both times narrowly missing customers (I was telling people to contact the health department as management and corporate wouldn't do anything on their own).
      That's just appalling. People could be badly hurt, yet corporate can't be arsed to do anything about it? I hope those customers do call the health department, OSHA, anyone else who'd qualify. If I was the store manager and the ceiling was falling in, I would've covered everything I could with tarps, gotten everyone out and closed up the place. Of course, I'm the kind of person who puts people's lives and health over store profits, so Corporate certainly wouldn't see it my way.

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      • #4
        I think the rationale (if you can call it that) is that the store's a cash cow for the area, so Corp doesn't think they need to put money into it

        That's the explanation I got from a department head anyway.
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        • #5
          The thing I find hysterical is that instead of fixing the roof, they'll just stick new ceiling tiles up there. That's what they did at my work. One time there were several leaks, and framing flooded. Since it wasn't in a place customers go (it was behind the counter with the register) the store stayed open. Also we have stayed open many times with large garbage cans catching the water. Just fix the roof! And when we remodeled, one thing the slick corporate guys were doing was looking at the ceiling and pointing out all the damaged tiles. Idiots. Fix the roof, then fix the tiles. I swear, a monkey could do their job better.
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          • #6
            We stayed open and the cleaning/ceiling crews had to work around customers, which was clearly NOT conducive to accomplishing much as several aisles had to be barricaded at various times to do this. Of course, I get the tantrums about "but I neeeed something in there why can't I get it?" I'm not getting it because that's not my job and if I do get hurt the store will fight it as I entered a clear hazard area. You're not getting it because I'm not letting you say "But she said I could go there!".

            SM did say that we were getting a new roof. I think a big part of the problem lies between the roof and drop ceiling; the majority of leaks are always in the same spot and mostly line up with heat/AC/refrigeration ductwork. I guarantee there is mold up there. Fun fact: our network cabling is very close to said ducts and some of the insulation is iffy, so I wouldn't be surprised if that failed because of the water/mold/new life forms.

            That building is from the mid-70s. They remodeled the inside when they first got it (not sure if it's leased or owned outright) but have been putting band-aids on everything else. I think the only way to permanently fix these issues is to close down and completely redo everything in that ceiling space (and put a waterproof barrier right behind the panels so if something does leak it doesn't destroy it).
            Last edited by Dreamstalker; 10-01-2015, 07:20 PM.
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            • #7
              I've been hit by one of those falling waterlogged tiles when the roof on my store got destroyed by a hail storm. Flattened me to the floor. Hurt like Then corporate got mad at me for refusing to open the arcade when there was 1-3 inches of water on the floor around all the games. They didn't seem to understand that half the power outlets in the store were underwater.

              Falling wet ceiling tiles is something that can kill someone. Corporate wont fix anything until someone gets hurt and then they'll blame the store employees for not doing anything before then.

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              • #8
                I once worked in a store where the landlord was uber cheap. Every, and I mean EVERY time it rained, the roof would leak in this one spot. What was her reaction? Once the rain stopped, she would send some guy (I think he was her son-in-law) up on the roof to PAINT over the leaks. Yeah, that'll fix it.

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                • #9
                  That's pretty much what we do. Waterlogged panel? Just slide a new one in, that's so much more cost effective I was trying to tell Shithead and anyone who would listen three storms ago that this was only going to get worse...replacing the roof last year probably would have been cheaper as it wasn't as bad.

                  We're guessing that payroll is going to be pillaged to pay for the roof. If that happens and Shithead complains about my availability (daring to have another day job) I'm going to give it to him straight (you can't guarantee sufficient hours and a living wage for this town, I need to make up for that).
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                  • #10
                    Quoth EricKei View Post
                    Well, yeah. Isn't that what SCO's are for? To facilitate shoplifting. I had heard that the Thieves' Guild put a lot of pressure on grocery stores nationwide to "encourage" SCO adoption.

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                    • #11
                      Quoth Dreamstalker View Post
                      Two more ceiling panels fell down, both times narrowly missing customers (I was telling people to contact the health department as management and corporate wouldn't do anything on their own)
                      Do this. Similar situations got two stores of a local competitor's shut down until they fixed it. (Unsurprisingly, that chain will be out of business by the end of this year.)

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                      • #12
                        Yeah, the roof must be in bad shape. We had similar problems at the swamp years ago when we had an unusual storm with heavy rain and high winds. The roof was leaking like a sieve and the ceiling tiles were falling. I think the store manager had to call corporate and threaten to close to have somebody come out and fix the roof.

                        Meanwhile, the strip mall attached to the swamp apparently has a mold problem that's affecting people working in the dollar store. The company that owns the strip mall is pretty much retail slumlords, so I don't think that will be getting fixed anytime soon. It's enough of a fight to get them to fix the potholes in their section of the parking lot.
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                        • #13
                          Quoth Irving Patrick Freleigh View Post
                          Yeah, the roof must be in bad shape. We had similar problems at the swamp years ago when we had an unusual storm with heavy rain and high winds.
                          In all this time, I can't even guess what type of store Irv works at. I thought it was a dollar-type store, or something similar to a ding and dent place, and now it is officially driving me INSANE.
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                          • #14
                            notalwaysright, I'm pretty sure Irv works at a store along the lines of walmart or kmart or fred meyer.

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                            • #15
                              Quoth dbuzman View Post
                              notalwaysright, I'm pretty sure Irv works at a store along the lines of walmart or kmart or fred meyer.
                              I was thinking along the lines of big lots.
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