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  • No, we will not give you your certification for free!

    So, over the last three days, I have heard the following cases all coming from the same short course that we offer (the outcome of said course basically certifying people to do a particular thing that the state demands you have this certification for), but different students:

    - Student #1 was flagged by our plagiarism software for one of their assignments. And this was WELL beyond the margin of error I might add. Upon further investigation, it turned out that the student had basically copied large chunks of their assignment from another student's assignment (the student in question having long since finished the course). When confronted with the evidence, the student's excuse was that they were "Tired and weren't thinking straight." Yeah...unfortunately that's not a valid excuse, but points for at least realising that you were boned.

    - Student #2 has been complaining to all that we weren't providing them with enough support. This complaint comes after the student literally came on-site twice and sat down with the library staff for extra support (including stuff that would have been covered during their undergraduate days), had one of the other lecturers take time out from their own course to sit down with them and give them extra support, even had the lecturer in charge of the short course offer them extra support. But nope, is complaining about this, that and the other thing and kicking up a major fuss.

    - Student #3 gets some REALLY special points. They applied for this course. Upon starting however, they have been making regular complaints that the course is too hard. Further digging revealed that the student had not read through the course information booklet outlining assignments and due dates, had not joined in the online discussions, had not even specified exactly what they were struggling with. It was just "this is too hard."

    Just...

  • #2
    #3 - "The information didn't automagically pop into my head. Nor did it jump from book onto pages to be turned in as completed assignments. It's WAY too hard, see!"

    Seeing as you seem to process through a lot of medical-types... I'm glad this batch aren't going to be certified to be doing such where I might unknowingly encounter them.

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    • #3
      Too hard

      If the subject is too hard for you, then you don't pass.

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      • #4
        My old GF told a tale similar to #2.

        This was at a nearby table in the student union vending room in our Champaign days; GF was close enough to hear it all.
        The teaching assistant (TA) met the at 8:00 PM on a weeknight. They spent a couple of hours going over the material. After the TA left, the EW bitched and moaned to friends that he was getting no help at all.
        I'm trying to see things from your point of view, but I can't get my head that far up my keister!

        Who is John Galt?
        -Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

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        • #5
          In the minuscule minds of these morons, "help" translates as "have it done for me" rather than "educate me how to do it myself."
          This was one of those times where my mouth says "have a nice day" but my brain says "go step on a Lego". - RegisterAce
          I can't make something magically appear to fulfill all your hopes and dreams. Believe me, if I could I'd be the first person I'd help. - Trixie

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          • #6
            This thread brought this link to mind: http://www.lamebook.com/battle-of-the-ages/

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            • #7
              Quoth taxguykarl View Post
              ...
              This was at a nearby table in the student union vending room in our Champaign days...
              At first I thought you meant something about back when you could drink bubbly wine.

              Then I realized you meant good ol' Shampoo-Bana! I lived the first 17 years of my life in Urbana...
              “There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged.
              One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world.
              The other, of course, involves orcs." -- John Rogers

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              • #8
                #3 reminds me of this WINNER. yea took the SC to a whole other level and still failed.

                Lehigh University C-plus grade lawsuit appeal rejected by Pennsylvania Superior Court
                https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/bet...lus_grade.html
                AkaiKitsune
                Sarcasm dear, sarcasm. I’m well aware that dealing with civilians in any capacity will skin your faith in humanity alive, then pickle anything that remains so as to watch it shrivel up into an immortal husk thus reminding you of how dead inside you now are.

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                • #9
                  Wow.

                  Just wow. And he was getting those degrees for free too.


                  I'm tolerant of everyone and everything except for assholes. - Mongo Skruddgemire

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                  • #10
                    Sue for a grade change and 1.3 mil, or just retake the class and go about life as intended... decisions, decisions.
                    "I know, let's make this a public circus with a good chance of public embarassment! What could possibly go wrong here?"

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                    • #11
                      Quoth Rosco the Iroc View Post
                      #3 reminds me of this WINNER. yea took the SC to a whole other level and still failed.

                      Lehigh University C-plus grade lawsuit appeal rejected by Pennsylvania Superior Court
                      https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/bet...lus_grade.html
                      Oh, we had a couple of those as well down here. Here's one example (if the link dies, student took the uni to court because they failed him on an assignment about dog breeds. The case got thrown out of court)

                      And I have an update on Student #1 above. We do allow students to appeal an outcome and we're not horrible people about it. Well, Student #1 appealed and among other things, apparently asked for us to be lenient because "they have an addiction."

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                      • #12
                        "I has an addiction"? Ahh, so let's just ignore all this silliness and get you your certification right away, so you can get in close proximity to various medications as part of daily routine.

                        Still love the idiots gambling large wads of money and dubious fame, trying to get the courts to fix their ... shortcomings.

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                        • #13
                          Quoth Buzzard View Post
                          "I has an addiction"? Ahh, so let's just ignore all this silliness and get you your certification right away, so you can get in close proximity to various medications as part of daily routine.
                          I'm being slightly vague on this one due to the nature of it, but it's not necessarily a drug one. This certification also allows practitioners of various types to administer a certain kind of medication.

                          Still love the idiots gambling large wads of money and dubious fame, trying to get the courts to fix their ... shortcomings.
                          Yeah...the guy who's article I linked to was a journalism student. The court basically told him to "move on." There's another case though, of a student who tried to hack into his universities system to change his grade and got caught doing so (he's currently facing court).

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                          • #14
                            Quoth Buzzard View Post
                            "I has an addiction"? Ahh, so let's just ignore all this silliness and get you your certification right away, so you can get in close proximity to various medications as part of daily routine.
                            Quoth LadyofArc View Post
                            I'm being slightly vague on this one due to the nature of it, but it's not necessarily a drug one.
                            Tough break for handjob...just waiting for his papers to clear division...
                            AkaiKitsune
                            Sarcasm dear, sarcasm. I’m well aware that dealing with civilians in any capacity will skin your faith in humanity alive, then pickle anything that remains so as to watch it shrivel up into an immortal husk thus reminding you of how dead inside you now are.

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                            • #15
                              Quoth Rosco the Iroc View Post
                              Tough break for handjob...just waiting for his papers to clear division...
                              Oh lordy, I could make a crack about that, but no.

                              And we had another two today who got caught plagiarising - these ones were REALLY bad.

                              - First case I suspect will likely appeal as she went major SC on the lecturer. Short version - cut'n'paste job from another student's work, right down to the spelling errors and out-of-date references. Even better was that the task in question had since been rewritten entirely, so the venture was just absolutely pointless.

                              - Second case was an even dumber one - basically took another student's work, put her own name on it and tried to pass it off as her own.

                              Co-Manager and I had the exact same reaction when the second case was presented today:

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