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  • Frame 13 and 15 are mine, but not 14

    I am a manager with a large chain drugstore. The other day, the tech running our photo lab calls me out there to handle a situation. A man and his wife are at the counter and are claiming that the prints in their photo orders are not theirs.

    Whenever we process a film order, we put a little sticker on the roll of film that you dropped off and a duplicate sticker on your order's envelope--it's called a twin check. That way, when the film exits the processor, we can match it up with the appropraite envelope. As long as things are kept organized, the prints that come off the machine will be yours, unless things get screwed up. Sometimes, the tech will put film in the wrong envelope, or put one twin check sticker on your film but place the other on the wrong envelope, causing the prints to go to the wrong customer.

    Anyway, after a few standard questions what appeared to have happened was that our new employee had let some prints from another person's order get mixed in with this couple's order. Now, remember the twin check I told you about? When printing an order, the number on that sticker is entered into the machine, which will print that number on the back of the prints--another way to prevent orders from being mixed up. I check the back of the prints and sort them according to the twin check number. I matched up all the prints with "xxxx" printed on the back, and those with "yyyy" printed on the back. Then I counted them--nope, they weren't overcharged, just had someone else's prints accidentally placed in their envelope.

    Problem solved, so I thought. "These aren't our pictures," claims the customer. "We took this photo from the right side of the building. These prints show the picture being taken from the left side. They must not be ours." I look at his negatives and the prints and realize what happened--our new technician put the film through the processor upside-down, causing the images on the prints to be reversed. I inform this lovely couple of what happened, offer an apology for the inconvenience, and tell them we will reprint their order the correct way. On top of this, I offer a refund for what they paid. Yeah, we made a mistake, but they'll end up getting their stuff for free an all they have to do is wait an extra 15 minutes for us to fix it. Now the problem was solved, right?

    I think you'll know where this is going....

    "No these are not our pictures! I'm not paying for this because you all lost our pictures!" I'm a little confused now, so I ask them to run this by me again. The customer is pointing to the picture of this building he took and explains that he took it from a certain angle and that this prints shows the photo taken from the opposite angle so the photo must not be his. So, I again explain that our technician made the mistake of putting his film through our machine upside-down, causing the image on the print to be reversed. Now, what are the odds of you taking a picture of a particular landmark, coming to a store to have them developed, and having our "idiot" employees manage to mix up your prints with some of the exact same building that "someone else" must have taken, all the while receiving a perfectly plausible explanation as to why this happened?

    This man still continues to insist he did not take these particular few photos. I ask him if the other frames on his developed negatives are his. "yes," is the reply. So, basically he was saying that frame numbers 13 and 16 were pictures he took, but that frames 14 and 15 (which were in between the two he admits to taking) were not taken by him. Ok, I'm really at a loss for words at this point.

    I then explain how we keep the orders organized, talking about those twin check stickers I wrote about earlier. His set of negatives that were developed from the roll of film he dropped off had a twin number sticker of "xxxx" on them, the envelope with his name on it had the corresponding "xxxx" sticker on it, and all the prints in the envelope (even the ones he claimed not to have taken) had "xxxx" printed on the back of them. That means that all those prints were made from the SAME ROLL OF FILM. There was no way you could claim some of the frames on the film were yours and some weren't. Based on my lengthy experience in doing this, there is NO POSSIBLE WAY anything had been messed up beyond the mistakes I had already acknowledged.

    I even pointed out to him that all the frames on his cut negatives were in seqential order--the strip went right on through 1 to 27 with no gaps in the sequence. Continuing to insist that some of the frames were ones you took, but the ones right next to them were not is just....God, I can't even fathom the ignorance, especially since he said he had taken pictures of this one particular building "but from the opposite side." Listen to yourself! Opposite side--I told you the film was put in upside-down--don't you think there's some kind of correlation here? Obvisouly not--it'll all our fault because we're just so stupied and incompetent. Even after I had gone through all this with him, he at one point told me "I don't care how you keep your orders separated--these aren't mine!" Ok, whatever.

    he starts to storm out of the store, but not before pointing his finger at me and telling me he's taking these pictures with him, calling his bank and stopping payment on the check he wrote for them, and if we want to "sue" him I can ahead and do it. Maybe I should call our bank and find out if the check was halted then pass it on the lawyers at corporate--I'm sure at least one of them would be up to reaming this guy out in small claims court. People like this honestly make me think God would be justified in sending a meteor crashing into the Earth to end the human race, considering we've sunken to such levels of stupidity.

    Of course, with my luck, he'll be back in next week demanding the refund he initially refused, which of course I'll have to deny since he told me he was stopping payment on that check. Oh, joy.

  • #2
    Wow, I've been a member here for almost 7 years now, and I thought I heard it all.

    About the closest thing to something like this that I ever heard of was the woman who wanted the picture of her late father, who had his back to the camera, flipped so that you could see his face.

    But I think that might have been on a different site.
    Sometimes life is altered.
    Break from the ropes your hands are tied.
    Uneasy with confrontation.
    Won't turn out right. Can't turn out right

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    • #3
      it's unfortunate that, with the negative in hand, he wouldn't have believed you even after you flipped it over demonstrating how pictures and images can be flipped, reversed, altered and even made to be something else entirely.

      I once did some photoshop work for a couple who gave me some pictures to scan of their family. After completing the scans, with the various touchups and image adjustments for color and clarity, I took a very shoddy image they had of them that had great lighting but a blank background and superimposed them on a nice, sunset beach (one of their other pictures). With the lighting and everything, it all meshed perfectly. After delivering the images, they went through them and called me later to ask for the original of the beach image as neither of them remembered taking the picture. I had to explain that even though they weren't originally in the picture, someone had to take the picture and there was no reason for them not to be. We all had a good laugh over that one. It was great that they thought it was a real picture. heheh
      Bears are bad. If an animal is going to be mean it should look so, like sharks and alligators. - Mark Healey

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      • #4
        I used to work in a photo lab, and one of my coworkers told me the same thing that Mike mentioned - a woman brought in a photo showing several people from the back, and asked if it could be printed with the negative facing the other way so she could see their faces.

        I once got grilled by a guy who just could not understand that once an image is on film, there is no way it can be sharpened, if it's out of focus. I told him we could change the color balance and the contrast, and Genius asked:

        "Will that sharpen the focus?"

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        • #5
          Someone wanted my husband, who started out as a typsetter/graphic artist, to retouch a photo in Photoshop by removing the front door of a house in a photo.

          She wanted the door removed because her husband had been standing behing the door when the picture was shot, and she wanted him in the picture.

          I couldn't make this stuff up. If I was so inclined, I'd make up stuff people would believe.

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          • #6
            Ooh! Ooh! I wanna guess!
            Do you work at CVS?
            "We were put on this Earth to fart around, and don't let anyone ever tell you otherwise." -Kurt Vonnegut

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            • #7
              What kind of *magical* cameras are these people using? Or better yet, I want to speak with that little hamster that has apparently fallen off its wheel in their brain . . .

              I take it they've never heard of WYSIWYG? What you see is what you get?
              This area is left blank for a reason.

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              • #8
                The "other" big chain drug store.

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                • #9
                  Quoth karma_gypsy View Post
                  What kind of *magical* cameras are these people using? Or better yet, I want to speak with that little hamster that has apparently fallen off its wheel in their brain . . .

                  .....The wheel is spinning, but the hamster is dead.......
                  Last edited by Ree; 06-02-2007, 12:19 AM. Reason: Fixing quote tags

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                  • #10
                    Quoth MadMike View Post
                    About the closest thing to something like this that I ever heard of was the woman who wanted the picture of her late father, who had his back to the camera, flipped so that you could see his face.
                    Quoth Eireann View Post
                    a woman brought in a photo showing several people from the back, and asked if it could be printed with the negative facing the other way so she could see their faces.
                    Quoth RecoveringKinkoid View Post
                    She wanted the door removed because her husband had been standing behing the door when the picture was shot, and she wanted him in the picture.
                    Ow, ow, OW, OW, OW!!!! Now my brain hurts.
                    It's floating wicker propelled by fire!

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                    • #11
                      Quoth karma_gypsy View Post
                      What kind of *magical* cameras are these people using? Or better yet, I want to speak with that little hamster that has apparently fallen off its wheel in their brain . . .
                      I'm afraid the hamster dropped dead with a heart attack, so unless you know of a good psychic who conducts seances, you may be out of luck.
                      Human Resources - the adult version of "I'm telling Mom." - Agent Anthony "Tony" DiNozzo (NCIS)

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                      • #12
                        Now you all see why I stopped doing portraits in retail, right?
                        I will not shove “it” up my backside. I do not know what “it” is, but in my many years on this earth I have figured out that that particular port hole is best reserved for emergency exit only. -GK

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                        • #13
                          I think I know what these people want. they want one of those magical cameras and the moving pictures that it produces that JK Rowling writes about in the Harry Potter books( although I believe that they have been reading Harry Potter waaaayyyyy too much and believe all that magic is true LOL)
                          I'm lost without a paddle and headed up SH*T creek.
                          -- Life Sucks Then You Die.


                          "I'll believe corp. are people when Texas executes one."

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                          • #14
                            Why, why, WHY does stupidity only hurt the smart ones????
                            Unseen but seeing
                            oh dear, now they're masquerading as sane-KiaKat
                            There isn't enough interpretive dance in the workplace these days-Irv
                            3rd shift needs love, too
                            RIP, mo bhrionglóid

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                            • #15
                              Quoth Racket_Man View Post
                              I think I know what these people want. they want one of those magical cameras and the moving pictures that it produces that JK Rowling writes about in the Harry Potter books( although I believe that they have been reading Harry Potter waaaayyyyy too much and believe all that magic is true LOL)
                              Unfortunately I've read similar stories from before Harry Potter.... People have always thought computers were magic.
                              Curiously Lydean - curious interests of a curious person.

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