who was sucky?

[tintaglia]

cos my friend thinks I was.

It had been a good day, and we were closed (can you see where this is going?)
I locked the door, and printed the till report. I had left my keys in the door, and walked round the desk to get them, when this wheelchair-bound man starts telling me through the door he needs in to 'Get a wee bag o` frolics!' I said 'sorry, we are closed'( and I was appologetic, but it was 5 mins after closing, and the till was closed down) and went to walk away from the door to get the till drawer (I needed my keys to unlock the drawer)
He yells 'Ya f***ing b*tch!!! Let ME IN!!' and starts shaking and banging the door.
In these situations, my mouth acts before my brain, and I responded ' oh Yeah, I am really going to let you in now(!)'

I carried on with getting the credit card reading, and he carries on yelliing 'F***ing b*tch! You need to F*** yoursel'! I've got F***ing hunners o' pounds I could spend!' I manage to ignore him, till he starts yelling through the letter box that he is going to get me for this, and he is going to report me, at which point, I offer him my head office's phone number. I get all my reports and go through to the office. The man is gone by the time we are ready to leave.

When I told one of my friends about this, he told me I should have let the man in, 'cos he was in a wheelchair.


I feel that as the store was closed, the till ect. shut down, no-one, able-bodied or not, should be getting in.

[Crazeyal]

Tell your friend to go [comment deleted before the mods get to it] Wheelchair or not, there are RULES. You could have gotten in trouble for breaking them, and it's a FAVOR if you bend them. As far as being accomidating to the hadicapped, the idea is to include and consider their unique needs, not treat them as if they were anything less than an average person. Nothing more or less.

The idiot was being rude and aggressive. You would not have been wrong if you'd called the COPS on him. You certainly weren't wrong to walk away from a ranting idiot who SHOULD be able to read.

Let me elaborate a bit...

Did he miss the closing time because of your store's construction or some other wheelchair related situation? From all accounts, NO! Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Did he need something related to health, or his handicap? NO!

Did he ask for help BECAUSE he was in a wheelchair? NO! He was just another idiot who can't read or manage time, and expects the world to bend to him.

[Catwoman2965]

Nope, you did nothing wrong. You followed proceedure, and the SC, regardless of the fact he was in a wheelchair, was sucky. Not your problem that he came after you were closed. So your friend in wrong, in my opinion. You didn't swear at him, call him names, or treat him any differently than someone who can walk.

FYI - my mom is in a wheelchair, and she has NEVER expected any special treatment because of it. Never once have I heard her complain or whine about being treated differently becuase she can't walk. Her only complaint, and I agree, is places that claim they are accessible, but once you get in, have so much crap around there is no room for her to manuver her chair, or move around. Just because you can get IN to a place, doesn't mean its accessible - but I digress a bit.

[kibbles]

If that was any other person would you have done the exact same thing? I predict that you would, 'cause you were closed and had everything shut down so I don't think you did a thing wrong.

And the comment you made IMO wasn't wrong either, especially the way he flipped out at you.

[allniter]

Your story reminded me of a few days ago, when I took a relay call from some asshat about a problem he had at one of our restaurants. For those of you who don't know, a relay call is for people who are deaf or dumb and can't talk into a telephone, so they write their statements to an independant operator who speaks their words out loud to the person on the other end of the line. Anyways, lucky me gets the call.


Basically, his complaint was that he went in for a meal with two babies. The store though only had one highchair because their other two had been used by a family out on the open patio which were then stolen by said family.

The shithead is told this, but his response, God knows how he communicated it to the manager, was "who cares, that's not my problem. I want a highchair so you'll get me one!" (his exacts words to me over the relay call)

I asked him how he expected the manager to get new highchairs by the time he was done his meal and of course Mr. dumb with even a Dumber brain couldn't answer it except to say that it still wasn't his problem.

By the end of the call, he was threatening to sue over the issue. Apparently making him sit with his kid was just too much to bear. Another stupid ass parent who should be castrated has entered our ranks.

I was pretty much laughing at his foolishness knowing that no lawsuit over that would make it through to litigation. Our own corporate lawyers who would cause so much hassle for the other lawyer, they'd quit the case before they started, even if they were stupid enough to take up the cause. But nevertheless, entitlement whore's abound.

[MoonChild2007]

I would have called the cops if this jerk was banging and yelling profanities at you. I can understand if he was being nice about it but he had to be aggressive?

When I told one of my friends about this, he told me I should have let the man in, 'cos he was in a wheelchair.

I would have told him that wheelchair or not, if a store is closed, its CLOSED. Wheelchair bound people are not above people who can walk. I can't stand people who think they are allowed to do whatever they want just because they have "special" privilieges.

[Pagan]

I'm gonna have to agree with everyone else. You absolutely were not the sucky one here. Sorry, but closing time is closing time, and being in a wheelchair doesn't grant you "special make up your own shopping hours"!

OT - Ciamar a tha sibh? (One of the about, oh, 5 phrases I can say in Scots Gaelic!) Where in Scotland are you? I want to go again so bad I can taste it!

[justZu]

FWIW I think he was the only sucky person in the interaction. You were right, your friend was wrong.
Now, please tell me...what is a wee bag o` frolics?

[Seshat]

FYI - my mom is in a wheelchair, and she has NEVER expected any special treatment because of it. Never once have I heard her complain or whine about being treated differently becuase she can't walk. Her only complaint, and I agree, is places that claim they are accessible, but once you get in, have so much crap around there is no room for her to manuver her chair, or move around. Just because you can get IN to a place, doesn't mean its accessible - but I digress a bit.

I am sometimes wheelchair-bound myself. I totally agree with your mother! Especially about places not really being wheelchair-okay.

(I've been in handicapped toilets where there wasn't room to turn the wheelchair! I have no idea how people who can't stand at all deal with such places.)

[Catwoman2965]

I am sometimes wheelchair-bound myself. I totally agree with your mother! Especially about places not really being wheelchair-okay.

(I've been in handicapped toilets where there wasn't room to turn the wheelchair! I have no idea how people who can't stand at all deal with such places.)

She's gotten to the point, if we are in a dept store, and the racks are so close together she has trouble moving around, she'll just go, and if she knocks stuff over, oh well (but only if I'm with her to pick them up and put them back, so as not to be an SC!). I've been with her and physicall moved displays, etc. so she can get through.

I hear you on the toilets; we pretty much know now which ones are good, and which ones aren't...funny thing is, they moved to VA a couple years ago, and come back up to NJ every once in a while. the STATE rest areas in VA are not really accessible at all....pretty sucky...but she's learned where to stop to find them.

[bendertiger]

I feel sorry for him though, I mean, two handicap's...

[Rapscallion]

What if his disability had disappeared and a knife had appeared as soon as he'd managed to get in the store when you had all the cash for the day handy? You know, when there are no customers around who could call for help or even step in on your behalf...

Yeah, I'm cynical enough to think that way.

Rapscallion

[earl colby pottinger]

Me too

What if his disability had disappeared and a knife had appeared as soon as he'd managed to get in the store when you had all the cash for the day handy? You know, when there are no customers around who could call for help or even step in on your behalf...

Yeah, I'm cynical enough to think that way.

I don't think it is cynical at all. A similar thought crossed my mind as I started reading how P.O. he was not to be let in. It sure seemed very important to him that she open the doors. Add in the suck people who pretend to have handicaps just to get ahead of others and you learn to treat people by the rules not their appearance.

[Ree]

I wouldn't be so cynical as to think he wanted to rob the place. I think he's just a very angry man in a wheelchair who is used to having doors opened for him because of his handicap.

Special concessions and assistance are given to help the handicapped function more easily, and with independence, not to give them a free ride through the world just because they are handicapped.

For your friend to say that, just because he was in a wheelchair, you should have opened the door up and let him shop is saying that handicapped people are "different" and deserve special treatment, and that's a poor and condescending attitude.

[Tito]

You absolutely were not sucky at all. In fact, you were alot nicer to that guy than I would have been. If he had spoken to me like that, I would have told him he needs to leave right now before I call the cops.

What if his disability had disappeared and a knife had appeared as soon as he'd managed to get in the store when you had all the cash for the day handy?

My thoughts exactly. I've seen this little trick done more than once when watching cop shows on TV.