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  • Jamal brought fried okra! OH NOES!!!!

    Our department head left this week. He was very awesome and will be missed. He was replaced by his equally awesome underling, and she will be just as good. But to send him off properly, we had a party this week for him, complete with potluck. We were allowed to take food back to our desks during the potluck.

    I came in on my day off for said potluck, and was corralled into working 2 hours overtime. I didn't mind; only two hours and I got paid for it, while eating yummy food in between calls. I was sitting near the lead stations and got to overhear this gem.

    A man had called in and spoken to one of us. While speaking to us he overheard in our background noise another rep walking by say "I heard Jamal brought us fried okra!" Customer took great offense at this, stating that A) We have no right to talk about food while working, because we're supposed to be 'serving the customers' and B) this random statement was very offensive as Jamal is a stereotypical black man's name, and how dare somebody mention such a name and 'fried okra' in the same sentence.

    I mean, this guy got livid over this. He was transferred to a lead and was just yelling himself hoarse at the lead about how we 'might as well wonder if he brought watermelon too!' and was just beside himself. He accused the lead of being a closet racist for not having a problem with this. The best part of this is that the lead, Jeff, is black. Jeff was having a blast with this guy, putting him on mute and doubling over laughing in his chair. Jeff said he never did figure out what race the caller was, whether he was an upset black man or a guilty-conscience white man.

    Jamal, apparently, got a big kick out of this when he was told later. Jamal is this 20year old kid from Baton Rouge who came out here to live with relatives and go to college last year. He brings authentic southern food to every potluck we have, and he is a damn good cook, so everyone gets all excited about what he brings. He's made red beans and rice and Jambalaya for us before, and this time, yes, he brought fried okra. The boy's got half the women in this department at his beck and call, 'cause he's just adorable. He jokingly promised next potluck he'd bring fried chicken and watermelon.
    Because as we all know, on the Internet all men are men, all women are men and all children are FBI agents.

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    Quoth ThePhoneGoddess
    While speaking to us he overheard in our background noise another rep walking by say "I heard Jamal brought us fried okra!" Customer took great offense at this, stating that A) We have no right to talk about food while working
    This is an excellent illustration of how stupid SCs are. They bitch and moan about talking to machines and demand to talk to a "real human."

    But when there is any hint that the "real human" they want to talk to so badly is an actual fallible human being with human needs (like the need to eat) they get all offended that we aren't acting like machines.

    The only thing that MIGHT be an issue here is that the background conversation was loud enough to be audible over the phone. There's nothing offensive about the content of the conversation except that your co-workers were reminding the SC that they were human beings. Can't have that, you know.

    You can't win with people like that.
    The best karma is letting a jerk bash himself senseless on the wall of your polite indifference.

    The stupid is strong with this one.

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    • #3
      heh, I was going to say he needed to bring fried chicken!

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      • #4
        It's those type of people that turn their heads and walk away when REAL discrimination and Racism show their ugly head.

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        • #5
          I better slap my parents for giving me a name that isn't German or Italian.
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          • #6
            Caller was dumb.... Now while fried okra sounds gross to me.... This Irish pale chica here would love some fried chicken and watermelon.... Yeesh, some people.

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            • #7
              Any cornbread? I'm FEENING for cornbread.
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              • #8
                My husband LOVES fried okra. His mother will make it for him when she visits us or we visit her.

                My MIL has a name that is more common in the black community than the white, so would someone be offended for her if someone shouted out her name and said she brought fried okra? That would be funny, considering she is as white as I am.
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                • #9
                  I dont see the problem. I think what Jamal did is a very nice 'cultural' thing. A great way to experience various cultures and foods from around the state. I am baffled by why the guy had a problem with it.

                  I do think though maybe the coworker should've kept it down if he was that loud, but that doesnt excuse the SC's behaviour.
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                  • #10
                    Exactly, horsetuna, the guy was being an ass, plain and simple.

                    Yeah, we did get asked to simmer down a little after that. The girl should not have been talking so loud while walking through the floor, but she was just excited. And she did not say anything in any way inappropriate.
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                    • #11
                      Oh, good grief!

                      Maybe I'm weird, or immature, or maybe I'm just a nice person. When I was talking to a Dell sales rep to buy my computer, he informed me that he would have to put me on mute for a moment because of some contest winner being announced on the call floor, and I could just make out the beginnings and ends of a very loud cheering session. It made me smile. I dunno, I guess I like the idea that the person I'm talking to is having fun at work, and the okra comment would have amused me just as much.

                      Of course, being in the south myself, my mouth would have also started watering at the mention of it!
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                      • #12
                        Quoth BeckySunshine View Post
                        Any cornbread? I'm FEENING for cornbread.
                        I'm eating some right now.

                        And fried okra sounds awfully good . . . I just can't fry it worth a darn.

                        Now fried squash on the other hand . . . I can make 3 large plates full and it's all gone in minutes.
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                        • #13
                          Quoth LadyBarbossa View Post
                          Of course, being in the south myself, my mouth would have also started watering at the mention of it!

                          Me too... though technically I'm in the "North" part of the south... even though I'm basically as far south as you can get. (South Florida). Still love southern food though

                          mmm fried okra, fried chicken, biscuits and gravy....damn, I'm hungry now.
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                          • #14
                            Ack. This is a good lesson to us in our call center. We've been known to cuss each other out on the floor on occasion.

                            Kidding aside, it's definitely playing with fire. A story like this just illustrates how an SC can take a minor issue and blow it out of proportion. I shudder to think about how one would react if he heard one of us cussing
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                            • #15
                              Did the lead inform the caller that Jamal, did, in fact, bring fried okra?

                              My old department does potlucks once in a while, and last time there somehow arose a conversation about collard greens (2 of the people in the department are black; one of them is from Tennessee). The one guy, whose name is probably fairly common as a "Black Muslim" sort of name, said he'd bring some in for the curious white-as-snow guy who was asking about it. I suppose that was wrong and I should tell them to stick to more generic fare next time....

                              OT, my frog in college Biology was named Jamal. My even-whiter-than-me red-headed lab partner named him that. I don't know why. (The people we shared our station with named their frog Bubba. Then they opened him up and found out that he was a girl. So they changed it to Bubbette. )
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