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This is for those of you who have been helping me out with my case. I am going to be more discreet with details now, because further action is being taken (finally). I want to share with you what happened today, and take more advice from those of you who have dealt with similar situations, and those of you who know the correct procedures to take.
First post: Father Entitlement
Second post: Update: Father Entitlement
(*note: both threads have been temporarily pulled, and this one may be soon)
OK, so after receiving a myriad of responses from my last two posts, I am so GRATEFUL for all of the help I have gotten from these threads. You guys have allowed me to grow a spine and take things into my own hands. Here is what happened from last night until today:
Last night, after getting information on how to contact the diocese, I wrote an email to the one in my town. They then directed it to the Mgsr. in the area, who emailed me first thing in the morning. He asked for me to call him, so I did, but nothing was discussed. He asked to set up an appointment with me today at 3:30PM and I did that.
Afterwards, my girlfriend urged me to call my framing manager and tell her about the appointment. I did this, and my manager didn't seemed impressed at all, almost like she didn't care. The tone in her voice literally brought me to tears because at that point I felt like no one believed me in what was going on.
I sat in the bathtub and cried for a bit, and while I was letting off the steam, I received another phone call and a voicemail. It was my manager. Unfortunately, I couldn't understand anything she said because of poor service, so I called her right back. The convo went as such:
FM: Framing Manager (and my ally)
Me: Cas (frustrated as all get out)
AM: Temp Assistant Manager (seeming shady)
(lots of job changes happened in this time period, so it is going to get more confusing)
FM: Hi, this is FM, how can I help you?
Me: Hey FM. It's Cas, I just got your voicemail, but I couldn't understand any of it. Sorry.
FM: Oh, it's OK. Basically, right after you called me, I went and talked to AM about what you told me.
Me: Ok. How did that go?
FM: Well, I told him you had an appointment and he said it would be best if you did not go to that.
Me: Why?
FM: Because we don't have any documentation of the complaint. He has some numbers you can call so we can get documentation first, and then it isn't a matter of "he said, she said."
Me: OK. I understand that. Well, I'll either stop in now or I will go to the meeting, but I will let you know what I do either way.
FM:...OK (seems unimpressed that I still mentioned the meeting) Well let me know what is going on.
Me: Will do. See ya.
After the phone conversation, I got the impression that 1) FM really DOES care about the situation. I think she was around other employees at the time and didn't want to act concerned. 2) I got the impression that AM is worried about what is going to go down by me taking matters into my own hands.
I ended up rescheduling my appointment with the Mgsr. out of fear that they would say that Father E hadn't done anything. The only thing they have now is a "heads up." They know why I want to talk about them, but they don't know the details, so there is nothing they can deny.
I went into my work, and had a framing associate page FM to the counter. She came over and then paged the AM. We went into the office to talk about the situation. I brought along my girlfriend, so that I did have a witness (and boy am I glad I did). Our conversation, in basics, went like this:
GF: My lovely, angsty and professional girlfriend.
GM: General Manager
DM: District Manager
---
AM: I don't know why GM hasn't acted on anything you have told him, but then again I can see why he would just look at it and think, 'oh, silly little girl.'
(Uh-uh. Strike 1. This isn't a humorous case.)
Me: But this has been going on for months. I followed the Open Door Policy. I took it through my manager, who didn't do anything about it. I took it through her manager who didn't do anything about it, and that was all I had to go through locally.
GF: If this has been going on for months, then it SHOULD have been documented in the beginning. She expressed her concerns over and over again to GM. He didn't do anything about it. It is his fault.
AM: I can understand that. Well, the reason I was sent to this store was to clean things up (Strike 2: He just admitted to me something he probably shouldn't have, because that was not why we were told he was there. We were told some drawn out story). FM and I will take care of this situation since no one else has. It is something that needs to be dealt with.
Me: Well, who should I call if it doesn't get dealt with properly?
AM: There are numbers in the break room that I will show you. Personally, I wouldn't call DM. I know him, he's in here often, and I don't think you would be comfortable talking to him. (Strike 3: Telling me not to go to the next person up, which is the DM. Is there a reason I shouldn't go to his boss that he isn't telling me, perhaps?)
Me: Well, I don't personally know DM and to be honest, I've never seen him in here before in my life. I would have no problem calling DM. (oh, if you could see the look on his face)
AM: Well, FM and I are staying later tonight in order to talk to GM (they must be serious if each of them are staying and extra 3 hours to talk to him). I will call you around 7:30PM to let you know what is going on. I'll call you on a cellphone, so that GM isn't standing around listening to what I am saying. I know that isn't company policy, but it will be easier for me to tell you what is going on. (I don't know if this is considered strike 4 or not; this one threw me for a loop. I don't know what kind of calls to be anticipating tonight, but at this point he is either a) setting me up or b) actually caring. I say setting me up, because he could just as easily put me on speaker in front of the GM to see if I say anything incriminating -- think "high school drama." I am definitely going to watch what I say.)
As soon as we left, my GF commented that they seemed very intimidated by her. When AM offered her a seat, she promptly refused and stayed standing at their eye level, and this threw him off. She butted in all the proper places, because she has been with me through the entire situation.
To let everyone know, I have began documenting everything as it happened, to the best extent I can. I have documented what I did today, and summarized what was to come of the situation tonight (1. FM and AM are to meet with GM tonight to discuss what is going on, and come up with some solution.) I also let them know that I emailed the CEO of my company about what was going on, and that no one was helping my situation.
I am so tired of being taken advantage of because I am young. My next step is to call the police -- tonight. Maybe even right after I post this. I am going to print out everything I have documented and tell them about my case. I talked to my mother, and she explained to me that this was very critical -- this is the proof I need that my company has done nothing to make my environment a safer place to work. I now understand how essential this is, and it will be taken care of.
Again, thank you to everyone who has been supporting me. I am so glad I found this site, and although I am a new member, everyone has been so great in explaining how to take action. Chances are I am going to have to edit out my old posts for a while, but I will save them. I wanted to let everyone know what is going on for now, since you guys are my new "extended family," and you give me a reason to fight back.
Group hug!
Another freakin' update!! 2-26-08 7:05 PM
I just got a voicemail from AM. And he said some wrong things to me. I don't think he meant to, but he did it.
First I will tell you the bad thing he said:
"Just give me another week before you do anything else." My response: GM has had 4 months to take care of this. I am not waiting another week.
"In my opinion, you should just find a new job." My response: (oh no you didn't) That is not fair, you cannot just suggest to me that I should get a new job because my manager cannot do his.
"Well, I would hate to see anyone acting harassing to you after this. I don't want you to call the DM because he will take it out on GM, and, in turn, take it out on me or you." My response: I would hate that too. But either way, he can't take it out on me or you, because there is a no-retaliation policy in these types of things. And if he does, that will turn into a harassment lawsuit itself.
Yup. I speaker-phoned that call, and while I was shaking with anger, my GF listened to everything he said carefully because she knew I was pissed.
I also found out that AM talked to GM, and GM said he would go speak to FE's boss (no, not God :P). I also found out that the last time he went to speak to FE's boss, nothing was resolved: the guy was on sick-leave. But no one told me that before. So basically, nothing has been done. It's all been a bunch of lies, and they are coming out now.
Another thing we are trying to figure out: You know how I said there have been a lot of job changes in my store? Well, we think there is a reason for this. We think the new Temp-AM is a corporate spy, and something else shady is going on at my store, AKA, my GM is under watch. I know it is too early to assume things, but based on the conversation I had with AM today, he was screaming it out without actually saying it.
I forgot to mention, he did say something good to me:
"I would like to commend you for how far you have taken this. Most people would just sit back and watch it happen. I've been there -- we all have. I'm glad you're taking action."
First post: Father Entitlement
Second post: Update: Father Entitlement
(*note: both threads have been temporarily pulled, and this one may be soon)
OK, so after receiving a myriad of responses from my last two posts, I am so GRATEFUL for all of the help I have gotten from these threads. You guys have allowed me to grow a spine and take things into my own hands. Here is what happened from last night until today:
Last night, after getting information on how to contact the diocese, I wrote an email to the one in my town. They then directed it to the Mgsr. in the area, who emailed me first thing in the morning. He asked for me to call him, so I did, but nothing was discussed. He asked to set up an appointment with me today at 3:30PM and I did that.
Afterwards, my girlfriend urged me to call my framing manager and tell her about the appointment. I did this, and my manager didn't seemed impressed at all, almost like she didn't care. The tone in her voice literally brought me to tears because at that point I felt like no one believed me in what was going on.
I sat in the bathtub and cried for a bit, and while I was letting off the steam, I received another phone call and a voicemail. It was my manager. Unfortunately, I couldn't understand anything she said because of poor service, so I called her right back. The convo went as such:
FM: Framing Manager (and my ally)
Me: Cas (frustrated as all get out)
AM: Temp Assistant Manager (seeming shady)
(lots of job changes happened in this time period, so it is going to get more confusing)
FM: Hi, this is FM, how can I help you?
Me: Hey FM. It's Cas, I just got your voicemail, but I couldn't understand any of it. Sorry.
FM: Oh, it's OK. Basically, right after you called me, I went and talked to AM about what you told me.
Me: Ok. How did that go?
FM: Well, I told him you had an appointment and he said it would be best if you did not go to that.
Me: Why?
FM: Because we don't have any documentation of the complaint. He has some numbers you can call so we can get documentation first, and then it isn't a matter of "he said, she said."
Me: OK. I understand that. Well, I'll either stop in now or I will go to the meeting, but I will let you know what I do either way.
FM:...OK (seems unimpressed that I still mentioned the meeting) Well let me know what is going on.
Me: Will do. See ya.
After the phone conversation, I got the impression that 1) FM really DOES care about the situation. I think she was around other employees at the time and didn't want to act concerned. 2) I got the impression that AM is worried about what is going to go down by me taking matters into my own hands.
I ended up rescheduling my appointment with the Mgsr. out of fear that they would say that Father E hadn't done anything. The only thing they have now is a "heads up." They know why I want to talk about them, but they don't know the details, so there is nothing they can deny.
I went into my work, and had a framing associate page FM to the counter. She came over and then paged the AM. We went into the office to talk about the situation. I brought along my girlfriend, so that I did have a witness (and boy am I glad I did). Our conversation, in basics, went like this:
GF: My lovely, angsty and professional girlfriend.
GM: General Manager
DM: District Manager
---
AM: I don't know why GM hasn't acted on anything you have told him, but then again I can see why he would just look at it and think, 'oh, silly little girl.'
(Uh-uh. Strike 1. This isn't a humorous case.)
Me: But this has been going on for months. I followed the Open Door Policy. I took it through my manager, who didn't do anything about it. I took it through her manager who didn't do anything about it, and that was all I had to go through locally.
GF: If this has been going on for months, then it SHOULD have been documented in the beginning. She expressed her concerns over and over again to GM. He didn't do anything about it. It is his fault.
AM: I can understand that. Well, the reason I was sent to this store was to clean things up (Strike 2: He just admitted to me something he probably shouldn't have, because that was not why we were told he was there. We were told some drawn out story). FM and I will take care of this situation since no one else has. It is something that needs to be dealt with.
Me: Well, who should I call if it doesn't get dealt with properly?
AM: There are numbers in the break room that I will show you. Personally, I wouldn't call DM. I know him, he's in here often, and I don't think you would be comfortable talking to him. (Strike 3: Telling me not to go to the next person up, which is the DM. Is there a reason I shouldn't go to his boss that he isn't telling me, perhaps?)
Me: Well, I don't personally know DM and to be honest, I've never seen him in here before in my life. I would have no problem calling DM. (oh, if you could see the look on his face)
AM: Well, FM and I are staying later tonight in order to talk to GM (they must be serious if each of them are staying and extra 3 hours to talk to him). I will call you around 7:30PM to let you know what is going on. I'll call you on a cellphone, so that GM isn't standing around listening to what I am saying. I know that isn't company policy, but it will be easier for me to tell you what is going on. (I don't know if this is considered strike 4 or not; this one threw me for a loop. I don't know what kind of calls to be anticipating tonight, but at this point he is either a) setting me up or b) actually caring. I say setting me up, because he could just as easily put me on speaker in front of the GM to see if I say anything incriminating -- think "high school drama." I am definitely going to watch what I say.)
As soon as we left, my GF commented that they seemed very intimidated by her. When AM offered her a seat, she promptly refused and stayed standing at their eye level, and this threw him off. She butted in all the proper places, because she has been with me through the entire situation.
To let everyone know, I have began documenting everything as it happened, to the best extent I can. I have documented what I did today, and summarized what was to come of the situation tonight (1. FM and AM are to meet with GM tonight to discuss what is going on, and come up with some solution.) I also let them know that I emailed the CEO of my company about what was going on, and that no one was helping my situation.
I am so tired of being taken advantage of because I am young. My next step is to call the police -- tonight. Maybe even right after I post this. I am going to print out everything I have documented and tell them about my case. I talked to my mother, and she explained to me that this was very critical -- this is the proof I need that my company has done nothing to make my environment a safer place to work. I now understand how essential this is, and it will be taken care of.
Again, thank you to everyone who has been supporting me. I am so glad I found this site, and although I am a new member, everyone has been so great in explaining how to take action. Chances are I am going to have to edit out my old posts for a while, but I will save them. I wanted to let everyone know what is going on for now, since you guys are my new "extended family," and you give me a reason to fight back.
Group hug!
Another freakin' update!! 2-26-08 7:05 PM
I just got a voicemail from AM. And he said some wrong things to me. I don't think he meant to, but he did it.
First I will tell you the bad thing he said:
"Just give me another week before you do anything else." My response: GM has had 4 months to take care of this. I am not waiting another week.
"In my opinion, you should just find a new job." My response: (oh no you didn't) That is not fair, you cannot just suggest to me that I should get a new job because my manager cannot do his.
"Well, I would hate to see anyone acting harassing to you after this. I don't want you to call the DM because he will take it out on GM, and, in turn, take it out on me or you." My response: I would hate that too. But either way, he can't take it out on me or you, because there is a no-retaliation policy in these types of things. And if he does, that will turn into a harassment lawsuit itself.
Yup. I speaker-phoned that call, and while I was shaking with anger, my GF listened to everything he said carefully because she knew I was pissed.
I also found out that AM talked to GM, and GM said he would go speak to FE's boss (no, not God :P). I also found out that the last time he went to speak to FE's boss, nothing was resolved: the guy was on sick-leave. But no one told me that before. So basically, nothing has been done. It's all been a bunch of lies, and they are coming out now.
Another thing we are trying to figure out: You know how I said there have been a lot of job changes in my store? Well, we think there is a reason for this. We think the new Temp-AM is a corporate spy, and something else shady is going on at my store, AKA, my GM is under watch. I know it is too early to assume things, but based on the conversation I had with AM today, he was screaming it out without actually saying it.
I forgot to mention, he did say something good to me:
"I would like to commend you for how far you have taken this. Most people would just sit back and watch it happen. I've been there -- we all have. I'm glad you're taking action."
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