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  • Airline files bankruptcy - Guess whose fault it is?!

    A couple of airlines have filed for bankruptcy this week, most notably ATA (American Trans Air), who was a fairly decent sized regional carrier that was in business for 40 years.

    Here are the procedures:

    If you've paid via credit card, you need to dispute the charge with your credit card company. Thankfully, the vast majority of travel agencies (mine included) require a credit card in order to book. I cannot TELL you how many people today actually thought it was MY job to call THEIR credit card company and dispute the charge. This is illogical on many points, the most glaring being that I have no way of knowing (nor wish to know) all of your security information to gain access to your account to dispute a charge.

    Unfortuately, while this solves the problem of getting your money back, this also means that you must re-purchase the ticket on another airline if you wish to travel. Also unfortuate is that the fare is likely to be much, MUCH higher. This is, apparently, also MY fault. You see, despite this airline declaring bankruptcy, it should be within MY power to dictate to the alternate carrier as to WHAT their fare should be for their particular itinerary.

    Don't get me wrong, I can completely understand the frustration that this would cause. What I CAN'T abide is someone SCREAMING at me and DEMANDING that I fix it.

    Dude, I can't. If you calm down, take a deep breath and follow my instructions, I can promise we'll work though it and I'll find you a flight. It might not be exactly the times or dates you wanted, but I've been doing this for close to 20 years and it's RARE that I'm unable to find a solution in a situation like this.

    However, if you scream and yell at me, make insane demands, curse at me and basically BLAME me for the airline filing bankruptcy, I can promise you that you will receive the BARE MINIMUM of help required for me to keep my job.

    Of all the people that called us today about ATA, all of the people who were calm, rational and respectful managed to get rebooked on alternate flights and the vast majority of them weren't out much more money than they were on ATA.

    Oddly enough, the customers who yelled, railed, screamed and threatened ended up walking away empty handed.

    Ain't it amazing how that happens?
    "So, if you wanna put places like that outta business, just stop being so rock-chewingly stupid." ~ Raudf, 9/19/13

  • #2
    Ugh, I feel for you. I hope you have chocolate at work!

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    • #3
      Can it be my fault? I love when things are my fault.

      As long as I'm actually not to blame, tell your customers I'm to blame. The Iron Teddy Bear compels you!
      Ridiculous 2009 Predictions: Evil Queen will beat Martha Stewart to death with a muffin pan. All hail Evil Queen! (Some things don't need elaboration.....) -- Jester

      Ridiculous 2010 Predictions: Evil Queen, after escaping prison for last years prediction, goes out and waffle irons Rachel Ray to death. -- SG15Z

      Ridiculous 2011 Prediction: Evil Queen will beat Gordon Ramsay over the head with a cast-iron skillet. -- FireHeart

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      • #4
        Hey thanks, EQ.

        "Listen, EQ down in Texas is to blame for the ATA bankruptcy. Now, lets focus on getting you rebooked."




        Quoth Hello Kitty View Post
        Ugh, I feel for you. I hope you have chocolate at work!
        We were all out after today. I was resorting to leftover jelly beans from Easter.
        Last edited by Broomjockey; 04-07-2008, 08:44 PM. Reason: merged
        "So, if you wanna put places like that outta business, just stop being so rock-chewingly stupid." ~ Raudf, 9/19/13

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        • #5
          Quoth Peppergirl View Post
          Hey thanks, EQ.

          "Listen, EQ down in Texas is to blame for the ATA bankruptcy. Now, lets focus on getting you rebooked."


          There we go! Now they can't blame you.
          Ridiculous 2009 Predictions: Evil Queen will beat Martha Stewart to death with a muffin pan. All hail Evil Queen! (Some things don't need elaboration.....) -- Jester

          Ridiculous 2010 Predictions: Evil Queen, after escaping prison for last years prediction, goes out and waffle irons Rachel Ray to death. -- SG15Z

          Ridiculous 2011 Prediction: Evil Queen will beat Gordon Ramsay over the head with a cast-iron skillet. -- FireHeart

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          • #6
            I hated to hear about ATA closing.... of course being within 2.5 hours of Indianapolis (and them being my families #1 airline -- we travel only from Indiana, Chicago to Arizona or Los Angeles [ATA's main flights -- non stop at that!]).

            I can't believe anyone would be upset.... eh.... I'm surprised that people would hold someone not associated with the airlines personally responsible for it. Complain about having to pay up to 2.5x the price for the same ticket, yeah I'd expect that.

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            • #7
              Thats right I was just reading that! Oh you poor thing! hope tomorrows not so bad.

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              • #8
                I refuse to be anally violated in order to fly anywhere....therefore, I haven't flown in years......they can blame ME for the bankruptcy.
                Last edited by Rapscallion; 04-07-2008, 08:52 PM.
                ...how do used tampons attract thieves? ---Sleepwalker

                Chickens are Asexual!

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                • #9
                  Ironically enough, my family was planning on using ATA to fly out to Hawaii this summer when we got wind of this. I really should have anticipated that someone (or several someones) on here would get a deluge of SC's after something like that. Thankfully my father was one of the sensible customers so things are still going as planned (mostly), but 'twas quite ironic finding this thread!
                  Your true character is who you are when no one is looking.
                  --Unknown

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                  • #10
                    Quoth Evil Queen View Post
                    Can it be my fault? I love when things are my fault.
                    awww i want to be blamed, send them to me so i can play with them. i have whips and rope and chains!

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                    • #11
                      Sliceanddice, we should talk

                      I saw this article, and thought 2 things, 1-there's going to be allot of angry idiots
                      2-good riddance!

                      while I know it's a sign of the times and the economy that they and 2 other airlines including Aloha have filed bankruptcy in the past week, I had a major beef with ATA and am dancing upon their corporate grave!

                      And remember; it's your fault because they said so and they are the customer, and the customer is alwa*interrupted by door being kicked down by the CS thought police*
                      "Ride the spiral to the end, it may just go where no one's been. Spiral out, keep going..." -Lateralus

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                      • #12
                        Oh yeah! I forgot about Aloha...got a few calls about them too, but none as sucky as the ATA calls.

                        A little up-start called Skybus went out too. But they were internet based, so I didn't have much of that to deal with.

                        And I think you all should come to Cincinnati and we'll have a big 'whose fault is it' party. You guys can come to my work and take turn getting on the phone and taking the blame.

                        You guys have all made me laugh. It was much needed. Thanks so much!
                        "So, if you wanna put places like that outta business, just stop being so rock-chewingly stupid." ~ Raudf, 9/19/13

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                        • #13
                          I have to admit,

                          the ATA bankruptcy hit me pretty hard. Last winter, I booked my two tickets to Maui and back, and found them on ATA for around $460, or less than half what I paid this year. Now I have to try to get my money, which I specifically saved for the trip, and re-book for more than double the rate.

                          But I didn't yell at anybody.

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                          • #14
                            Quoth Hawkguy View Post
                            the ATA bankruptcy hit me pretty hard. Last winter, I booked my two tickets to Maui and back, and found them on ATA for around $460, or less than half what I paid this year. Now I have to try to get my money, which I specifically saved for the trip, and re-book for more than double the rate.

                            But I didn't yell at anybody.

                            Did you already rebook? Did you pay with a credit card? PM me if you want. I'd be happy to check and see if I can find anything cheaper for you.
                            "So, if you wanna put places like that outta business, just stop being so rock-chewingly stupid." ~ Raudf, 9/19/13

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                            • #15
                              Quoth Sliceanddice View Post
                              awww i want to be blamed, send them to me so i can play with them. i have whips and rope and chains!
                              Too late, I beat you to it! I happen to own some toys myself; if any of them get feisty you'll know who's gonna win.
                              Ridiculous 2009 Predictions: Evil Queen will beat Martha Stewart to death with a muffin pan. All hail Evil Queen! (Some things don't need elaboration.....) -- Jester

                              Ridiculous 2010 Predictions: Evil Queen, after escaping prison for last years prediction, goes out and waffle irons Rachel Ray to death. -- SG15Z

                              Ridiculous 2011 Prediction: Evil Queen will beat Gordon Ramsay over the head with a cast-iron skillet. -- FireHeart

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