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  • It's *everyone elses* fault I'm an idiot please compensate me - quite long

    This one annoyed me. I gave extra help to someone and as always that meant I suffered. They're complaining about me - which upset me much less than having to record their pathetic attempts to make it look like someone else is to blame for their problems. I decided to make myself feel better by sharing the idiot's story. The moral is I think that if you are stupid enough you never need to face the reality of your stupidity because you will always be able to believe someone else is responsible.

    Background - Idiot came in to ask that we help her because she's paying (using a key meter so paying up front) up to £5 a day for her electric. She has a small house, no electric heating etc. doesn't know why it's so high.

    So I offer to help her arrange to have her meter checked. She's already got an appointment - which means until the engineer visits there is absolutely nothing that we can do.

    To be nice (I should know better) I tell her she can come and see me on a day I'm not seeing the public so she doesn't have to queue up or wait or anything. She turns up but she's apparently given me the wrong date for the meter reading and it hasn't happened yet. So I make her another unofficial "appointment".

    TODAY : She is an IDIOT, I'm ME or ADVISER but the following is taken from my records which I'm not normally named in.

    IDIOTs electricity supplier has now inspected the meter and has stated that the high charges have been caused by use of an immersion water heater.

    IDIOT believes she is entitled to be compensated for the high costs. IDIOT states that she was previously supplied with hot water by the landlord (supply to the block of flats) and still pays hot water and heating charges to them. IDIOT stated that she switched to the emergency immersion heater only when this service failed. IDIOT states that she did not report the matter to the landlord. IDIOT stated that she was not aware the hot water had failed so did not know she should have reported the matter to the landlord. [note - not consistent with other info] IDIOT stated the council should have told her the emergency heater would be so expensive.

    IDIOT had not previously given us any information regarding the failure of the main water heating system and had previously suggested that there had been no changes at the time of the increased electricity costs.

    IDIOT has no claim for compensation from the electric supplier. She has paid only for electricity used, suppliers had no control over the use of the immersion heater and have actually taken the time to visit and check the meter and explain the high usage.

    It is hard to see [ie impossible - she's a raving loon] how the landlord is liable for IDIOT's excessive electricity charges when these were caused largely by unnecessary 24 hour usage of the water heater. IDIOT believes that the landlord should have informed her that this would be a problem but (a) she did not inform the landlord she was having to use the "emergency" heater so how could they have know to warn her, (b) as she was using a pre-payment meter the increase at the time of the switch to the immersion heater would have been obvious.

    Had IDIOT informed the council of the need to repair the main water heating system then adviser believes she would have had reasonable grounds to request a refund of money paid to the landlord for hot water provision between the time the issue was reported and the time it was actually repaired.

    IDIOT could request this anyway but it is extremely unlikely that the landlord will offer a refund as this would in effect compensate client for her own failure to report the matter.

    IDIOT attempted to argue that she had not known that the main water heating was not working – however she had previously talked about the time it stopped working, and had needed to switch on the immersion heater, this conflicts with other information. Unable to advise further on such inconsistent information.

    IDIOT then stated that it was MY EMPLOYERS [advice agency] fault as we should have reported the problem (though IDIOT has not previously raised this issue with us) and were still refusing to help her. IDIOT complained that we had asked her to attend on multiple occasions but had then been unable to help – however IDIOT was only asked to return because we could not advise on the presenting problem of unreasonable electricity charges and possible meter fault while IDIOT was waiting for the scheduled meter check. The 2nd appointment was made only because IDIOT had given incorrect information as to the date of the meter check. Assistance was provided on both occasions regarding separate issues.

    [IDIOT threw temper tantrum] Requested that IDIOT take a seat and remain calm if the interview was to continue. IDIOT stated that she would rather leave.

    IDIOT stated that she intended to make a complaint. Provided client with a complaints leaflet.

    I feel better for sharing that I spoke to my manager and he agrees I was wholly in the right. Most fun was stopping as she stormed out angrily to provide her with the complaints leaflet.

    Least fun was having to record IDIOT logic - "I failed to tell anyone about my problem but it's everyone else's fault that I wasted money (while recording everyday in a little notebook how much I was wasting) because they should have warned me I was being stupid even though they couldn't possibly have know I was being so stupid...."

    Victoria J

  • #2
    I work for my local electricity company as well. I feel your pain on so many levels! The stupid burns, doesn't it? (Thankfully, I never have to deal with the stupid face to face, because I'm a telephone rep, and our office is no longer open to the public).
    GK/Kara/Jester fangirl.

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    • #3
      £5 A Day?! Geez, £10 on my electric meter lasts me a fortnight, course, I don't have any heating nor hot water But I do have my computer on most of the day, have a fridge, TV electric cooker and kettle and toaster what I use a lot.
      I am the nocturnal echo-locating flying mammal man.

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      • #4
        I don't know why people feel that they should be compensated for everything. We're really raising a generation of people that thinks they're entitled to anything they want, and if anything goes wrong, someone will fix it for free.

        The days of "Dealing With It" are over.
        Excuse me, good sir paladin, can you direct me to your EVIL district?

        http://www.dywhcomic.com

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        • #5
          wow my electric bill is around $30 a month american-if it's higher and the rates didn't go up-I just assume I had more computer/game time.
          Honestly.... the image of that in my head made me go "AWESOME!"..... and then I remembered I am terribly strange.-Red dazes

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          • #6
            £5 a day is certainly outrageous - and this woman is living on state benefits. And has no electricity until after she has put the money in the meter.

            Which means that as soon as she switched that bloody immersion heater on she had to go down to the shops every couple of days to charge up the meter key, and paid half her food budget onto it - but somehow she expected that someone who didn't even know she was using the immersion heater should have warned her it might be expensive.

            Words fail me - so I'm sticking to which is my favourite smiley here.

            Victoria J

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            • #7
              Quoth Victoria J View Post
              £5 a day is certainly outrageous - and this woman is living on state benefits. And has no electricity until after she has put the money in the meter.

              Which means that as soon as she switched that bloody immersion heater on she had to go down to the shops every couple of days to charge up the meter key, and paid half her food budget onto it - but somehow she expected that someone who didn't even know she was using the immersion heater should have warned her it might be expensive.

              Words fail me - so I'm sticking to which is my favourite smiley here.

              Victoria J
              I'm on benefits too because of an injury but unlike her, I make my money last as much as it can, even if it means I go without, even eating sometimes.

              I get my rent and tax paid for too but that's it, everything else I have to pay with the money I get from the state, thankfully my mum helps with paying for the internet, otherwise I seriously would go mental.

              and just to put it into perspective, I get around £45 a week to live on, half of that going on bills. I could get on more going onto Disability but I hate the fact that I can't support myelf because of an injury that wasn't my own fault already, getting more money for it would just make me feel worse.

              But it's better than I was before since around until 9 months ago I had been homeless for 7 months.
              I am the nocturnal echo-locating flying mammal man.

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              • #8
                Quoth RayvenQ View Post
                I'm on benefits too because of an injury

                [...]

                I could get on more going onto Disability but I hate the fact that I can't support myelf because of an injury that wasn't my own fault already, getting more money for it would just make me feel worse.
                I certainly didn't mean to imply in anyway that her being on benefits was part of the problem - it just seemed to me worth mentioning because it just shows how aware she must have been of the money she was spending. Someone rich, or someone paying their bills quarterly in arrears might genuinely have been unaware of the cost of running that "emergency" heater constantly - she must have known because she was suffering real hardship day to day paying for it.

                Benefits are my specialist subject, it made me smile to see you explain what you're getting. Let me guess you must be under 25 ? If it wasn't just after the insulting April increase I'd know exactly what you were getting off the top of my head

                I've also claimed benefit. I don't judge people for doing so.

                It makes me wince a bit to hear anyone say they aren't claiming everything they can. I spend a lot of my time helping people claim their entitlement. Seriously - I'd recommend claiming as sick if you're doctor supports it unless you feel that claiming while looking for work is better for your health and your chances of improving your life. (I claimed as unemployed when looking back I was probably so depressed I couldn't work - but I think being pushed into looking was good for me, and I recovered faster than I would have done if I'd "given in" to the depression). Do what's best for you and don't feel guilty.

                If you really don't need the money claim it and give it to charity ! It's yours - and you probably wouldn't put the government at the top of the list of people to donate to.

                I'm really pleased that I am now working and paying tax and get to give back the help I received (though of course I'm not always thrilled with the amount of tax ) - but getting the help when I needed it is why I'm in a better position now. I'm happy to know that my tax money now goes to help other people who need it. I'm all for any honest benefit claim - and think it's also important to remember that it's perfectly OK to make an honest claim even if you may not be entitled. That's how you find out !

                (Dishonest claimants are another matter. I wish better steps were taken to prevent them. They're still a huge minority though)

                Um, apologies for the advice, sometimes I have trouble letting it go when I'm not at work. I do feel strongly though.

                Victoria J

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                • #9
                  Don't worry I didn't take you saying she was on benefits as being insulting, at least, not from you, but I know how ridiculous £5 a day is for 'leccy when you're on benefits.

                  I am looking but due to varying circumstances (lack of employers giving me a chance and my back injury) it's not easy, there is the old saying that those who don't get a job aren't looking hard enough, but there's more to it than that.

                  Yeah, I am under 25

                  I pay my water and electric bills on a fortnightly basis so I do have to be careful.

                  Yeah the "increase" was something like £1 odd or less doesn't make much of a difference but at least that increase can get me an extra 6 pints of milk a fortnight.

                  I am soon to be going on physio for my back related problems but if it doesn't help I might have to claim benefits.

                  I often get the line "why aren't you looking harder?" Yeah, kinda hard when you're in that much numbing pain that you feel physically sick and no painkillers will help and that's on a good day too. It's hard for me to put my problems across to people because it's not something you can see until it goes really bad. And it doesn't show up on X-rays or MRI's either, I've had so many X rays over the years I'm close to glowing in the dark.

                  Anyway, thanks for letting me vent.
                  I am the nocturnal echo-locating flying mammal man.

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                  • #10
                    RayvenQ - I liked to think when I was on benefits that the government didn't really understand how impossible it was to live on the amount, but then the increase came round and I was forced to accept they just didn't care.

                    The reduced payments to under 25's is truly evil in my opinion. (I understand it was actually challenged unsucessfully at the European court). Young people tend to be less likely to have other resources to fall back on. I know when I first claimed I didn't even own a fridge - my shopping bills certainly weren't lower than an older persons.

                    You can of course look for work whether you're claiming as sick or not. Hopefully things will improve - there is a huge change in attitudes to disabled people working that is effecting the benefits system, employment law and (sadly much more slowly) the reality in the work place. I have high hopes for a future that will accept and value the contributions that can be made by a wider group of people.

                    I'm always slightly embarrassed to discover I'm still an optimist.

                    Victoria J

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