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  • Policies are now mush and more....

    1. Great, policies are now officially – as above – mush.

    Take a look at this thread here for reference: http://www.customerssuck.com/board/s...ad.php?t=48795

    I knew it was going to happen. I even told my former boss about this. If an SC gets an after-call survey he/she will mark the agent down just because he/she didn’t like the answer.

    Well it’s happening. In droves. I walked into work last week and my new boss said this:

    Him: SLD your survey scores are shitty.
    Me: Yeah, and the reason please?
    Him: You’re following policy.
    Me: And that’s a bad thing?!
    Him: These customers are saying you’re more interested in following policy then helping them.
    Me: Ok, so if a customer calls in with a carry in plan (only hardware is covered on those) and he has a virus, it’s bad to tell him it’s not covered and refer him to the sales department?
    Him: Technically no, but give him more options. Tell him he can run a free scan at Housecall or Norton if he doesn’t want to pay.
    Me: Those don’t work!
    Him: Yeah but to the customer, you’ve just given him options other than “you need to pay.”

    Which sucks, as it basically means that in order to avoid bad survey scores, we now have to support the customer even if they’re not entitled to support on any given line. If you know how to fix the problem, handle it. Also, remember how I said in another thread you cannot send a tech out unless they’re in front of the unit? We now have to take the customers word for it. Customer has in-house subscription software but went to a porn site and got a virus that their software can’t remove? That line is only for troubleshooting the software, but now we’re told to try and remove the viruses as well. All to prevent the SCs from sending in a survey screaming “he refused to help me!”

    The problem here is many of the freebies they’re handing out are usually services the customer needs to pay for. Guess what happens when the retail store honchos tell the floor manager to ignore the surveys that were SCs and start actually following policy? Customers are going to call in expecting free support and turn into EWs and send in bad surveys again.

    2. The Ford Pinto mentality regarding chairs.

    Many of the chairs we have to use are broken, probably from being old and abused. Many of these chairs are broken and downright unsafe to use because they could fail at any moment.

    Instead of buying nice new chairs, they have these people who work out of a converted garage refurbish them. Only problem is, there is only so many times you can refurbish a chair before it just fails – sometimes when a tech is sitting on it.

    That happened to a girl that used to work in my call center. She leaned back (not even that much) and the chair collapsed, causing her to fall on her ass and twisting her knee in the process. They took her to the hospital, and when she quit a couple of months later, she sued to get her medical bills paid for by the call center. She easily won when she revealed these two bits of info:

    1. The people who refurbish the chairs aren’t certified by the manufacturer nor are the qualified. They are former techs that are just given an instruction manual to refurbish them.
    2. She and I both heard a manager say that upper management found it cheaper to pay someone’s medical bills due to a collapsing chair than buy new chairs for the floor.

    Yeah, you read that right. They would rather run the risk of someone getting hurt than spending the money to make sure it doesn’t happen in the first place.

    3. Isn’t there a safer way to save on the electric bill?

    In order to save money, upper management has decided it’s a great idea to turn off the lights in a large section of the parking lot – at night. Not a very good idea at all. A co-worker said that they won’t learn that’s a stupid way to save money until someone gets attacked or worse. After all, all it takes is a criminal to figure out that after a certain time of the day the lights go off in this large parking lot.

  • #2
    Call OSHA now. And the local labor board.
    Labor boards have info on local laws for free
    HR believes the first person in the door
    Learn how to go over whackamole bosses' heads safely
    Document everything
    CS proves Dunning-Kruger effect

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    • #3
      Quoth wagegoth View Post
      Call OSHA now. And the local labor board.
      Seconded. Now.

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      • #4
        Update:

        Last week, another tech got hurt because a chair collapsed from under him. He was wearing a sling on his arm, so I can imagine that's what got hurt in the process. The chair was refurbished maybe 10 times.

        As far as the lights, they started turning them back on. Well most of them anyway.

        I would love to call OSHA, but places like my call center think of people who call OSHA as narcs - and I don't feel like being fired. Maybe when I quit. As far as the labor board, this state's previous governor in a great move disbanded the state labor board so any complaints need to go to the federal level.

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        • #5
          Quoth sld72382 View Post
          I would love to call OSHA, but places like my call center think of people who call OSHA as narcs
          What are you, twelve? CALL THEM. SERIOUSLY. You are putting your health at risk, and for what? A minimum wage job?

          and I don't feel like being fired.
          Being fired for calling OSHA sounds like a wonderful way to win a law suite. You have posted about two individual incidents already. Do you want the third to be your own arse?

          Let me make this as clear as I can.

          You are facilitating the problems at your workplace. You are partially responsible for the injuries being suffered.

          Call the fucking safety people now.

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          • #6
            What are you, twelve? CALL THEM. SERIOUSLY. You are putting your health at risk, and for what? A minimum wage job?
            Actually I'm one of the highest paid techs there, so it's a lot more than minimum wage.

            As far as calling OSHA I'll have to consider it. Keep in mind that the state where I'm in as a right to work state, so they could fire me and if I sued they could make up a story like "we didn't fire him for that we fired him for being rude to a customer" to avoid paying me anything. I've seen it happen at other places, so what makes me think it's going to be any different here?

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            • #7
              draco664 is right. Call OSHA NOW! If the management even thinks about firing you, remind them about the damages for whistle blower retalitation.
              I'm trying to see things from your point of view, but I can't get my head that far up my keister!

              Who is John Galt?
              -Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

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              • #8
                Quoth sld72382 View Post
                Actually I'm one of the highest paid techs there, so it's a lot more than minimum wage.

                As far as calling OSHA I'll have to consider it. Keep in mind that the state where I'm in as a right to work state, so they could fire me and if I sued they could make up a story like "we didn't fire him for that we fired him for being rude to a customer" to avoid paying me anything. I've seen it happen at other places, so what makes me think it's going to be any different here?

                Go to a pay phone, not near your home, and make the call. Or send snail mail that's NOT printed at work.
                Labor boards have info on local laws for free
                HR believes the first person in the door
                Learn how to go over whackamole bosses' heads safely
                Document everything
                CS proves Dunning-Kruger effect

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                • #9
                  Quoth sld72382 View Post
                  Actually I'm one of the highest paid techs there, so it's a lot more than minimum wage.
                  I don't care if you earn a grand a day. An unsafe working environment has the potential to ruin (or even end) your life. Having a chair that could collapse isn't in the same league as something with the potential to decapitate you. But minor spinal injuries can and do last for years.

                  It. Is. Not. Worth. It.

                  As far as calling OSHA I'll have to consider it. Keep in mind that the state where I'm in as a right to work state, so they could fire me and if I sued they could make up a story like "we didn't fire him for that we fired him for being rude to a customer" to avoid paying me anything. I've seen it happen at other places, so what makes me think it's going to be any different here?
                  Two words. Anonymous Tip-off.

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                  • #10
                    If you swallow the whistle on this just because you think it will save your job, you could end up screwed anyway when somebody gets seriously hurt in a chair-related accident and sues your employer back to the stone age.

                    Just a thought.
                    Knowledge is power. Power corrupts. Study hard. Be evil.

                    "I never said I wasn't a horrible person."--Me, almost daily

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                    • #11
                      we had a similar incident at work. we had some equipment that was having issues but need to be fixed before it became unsafe. Work order were put in, emails exchanged. Months passed with no action and the problem became worse. Someone got hurt and was in the hospital for a almost week with therapy and what not for a few years.

                      Since it was ignored and mgmt knew about it they got a rather large amount of $$$ and the faulty equipment was replaced within 24 hours of the incident to try to cover it up. For some some "unknown" reason a lot of our Former district/Corp contacts we no longer reachable and we had new people.

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