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  • How NOT to ask for help. Long, as usual.

    Another extremely hot day today in Central Florida. I'm coming inside from the garden center, soaked in sweat and my torso covered in dirt from loading 35 bags of topsoil and Black Kow for a customer. All I want to do right now is get to the break room to wash my arms and hands, get the sweat off my face and drink lots of water.

    I'm walking along the main aisle from outside garden to the front when I hear *tweet* (that's sposta be a whistling sound). I keep walking. *Tweet* even louder this time. I keep walking. *Tweet tweet* Again, I keep walking, not looking behind me or around to see what that noise is. I know what that noise is; it's an SC trying to get my attention. But no one is in front of me, so it must be from one of the adjacent aisles.

    SC: *Tweet!* "HEY! YOU!"
    Me: (I finally stop and turn around. A customer comes from around the corner) "Yes, sir?"
    SC: "Are you deaf? Didn't you hear me calling you?"
    Me: "I heard what sounded like whistling, like someone calling for their dog. But I didn't hear you asking for assistance. How can I help you?"
    SC: "I've been trying to get your attention since you walked thru that door (20 feet away)! I can't believe you ignore customers like that! I whistled loud enough for the whole store to hear! (Yes, he did at that)
    Me: "I wasn't ignoring you, sir. Like I said, I heard whistling, like someone was calling their dog. Now, how can I help you?"
    SC: "I'm going to see your manager about this! You ignored me!

    Now he gets real close to me, trying to intimidate me. And this is very funny, (to me at least) because he is a short, fat man, around 55-60 years old, pattern baldness, dressed in a white tank top (wife beaters we call them down here), shorts just above his knees, black socks just below his knees, and sandals. He stands about a foot away from me, and glares at me. The top of his head barely comes up to my chest.

    SC: "You deliberately ignored me! I want to see the manager RIGHT NOW!"
    Me: (Amazingly remaining very calm while still dealing with this dipshit) "Okay, I'll get one for you." I was hoping to ditch the guy, but no. My luck doesn't work like that. I start to head off when he says:
    SC: "Oh, no. You'll stay right here!" He even tries to grab my arm, but a very evil look from me makes him decide that touching me is probably the last thing he wants to do.
    Me: "If that's what you'd like, but how am I going to get a manager?"
    SC: "Uhhh... "

    Meanwhile, as he's going on with his tantrum, other customers are looking at him like he has 4 heads. I hear a few mutter "jerk" and "what an asshole" as they pass by.
    Just then the department manager, Dan, walks thru the doors. Perfect timing. Dan is awesome. Doesn't take shit from anyone, just like me. Dan also helped me load up some of the 35 bags. SC sees him (20 feet away) and yells:
    SC: (to me) "YOU! Stay there!" (to Dan) "YOU! Come here!"
    Dan: "Is there a problem?"
    SC: "YES, there is a problem! This guy right here ignored me. I called for help TEN TIMES before he stopped. He finally turned around when I had to yell."
    Dan: "Ten times? Is this true, Knightmare?"
    Me: "No, it's not. I was coming in from that 35 bag job we had when I heard whistling. I..."
    SC: "I never whistled! You ignored me!"

    Now we have a few other customers around us, the ones that did the whispering, and others hanging around to see what is going on. The 2 main ones will be called C1 and C2.

    C1: "You did too. Leave the guy alone."
    SC: "Stay out of this! This doesn't concern you!"
    C2: "He asked you many times how he could help you, but you kept on with your tirade. Get a clue, mister."
    Dan: "Ok, what happened here?" he asked SC.
    SC: "He came thru the doors, and I said 'Excuse me.' He kept walking and I said it louder, and again he kept going. He ignored me!"
    C1: "He did not ignore you! He asked how he could help!"
    Dan: "Ok, everyone. One at a time. Knightmare, is this what happened?" Dan could see from the look on the other customers' faces that this was, indeed, not true.
    Me: "No, Dan. I was coming in from the loading job when I heard whistling. I..."
    SC: "I DID NOT WHISTLE!"
    Me: "May I finish, please? I heard whistling, like someone would do when calling a dog. Not once did I hear anyone ask for any help at all. This aisle was empty when I was walking down it."
    SC: "I did not whistle!"
    C2: "You did too. I was standing 5 feet away from you. You broke my eardrum!"
    Me: "You even told me that you whistled loud enough for the whole store to hear."
    Dan: "Is that what that was? I heard that all the way outside!"
    SC: "Why is everyone so stuck on whistling!? Do I look like a have a dog with me?
    Me: "DO I LOOK LIKE A DOG TO YOU? When you need help, ask for it! Don't whistle and expect someone to come running! Dan, he's all yours. I've had enough of him."
    Dan: "Go take a break, Knightmare. I'll take care of this."
    SC: "Where is he going? Get back here! I'm not done with you!"
    Dan: "Yes, you are. I'm taking it from here."
    C1: (Taking me aside and saying to me) "I'll stick around and make sure everything is correct. Go get cleaned up. You look horrible. Don't smell too good, either." She laughed at that, which made me laugh.
    Me: "Yeah, this is what happens when you load bags of manure for a customer."
    C1: "Oh, you poor thing. Don't worry, I'll help you out."

    C2 walks to the front with me, saying the whole time that SC was a complete ass, and had no right to treat me like that. He's going to see the store manager to make sure that I don't get into any trouble, and to tell them that I handled the situation as best as anyone could. I thank him and tell him he really doesn't have to do that. C2 says he's been in retail a long time, and knows that in situations like this, it's the customer's word against the employee, and employee usually loses. He's going to make sure it doesn't happen. I thank him again and go to the break room and clean up.

    I clean up, sit down and relax. Only 7 minutes or so have passed. I have 2 hours until I go on lunch break. What joy this day will bring. Fortunately, the rest of the day passed without any further major incidents.

    Everyone kept asking me "What happened?" "What's all the commotion about?" I just looked at them and said, "Eh, same old, same old."

    Yes, I know. I actually DID ignore the customer. But if you want help, ASK. DO NOT WHISTLE FOR MY ATTENTION.


    P.S. Later, Dan came to me and told me not to worry about anything. The guy got kicked out when he got verbally and physically abusive, jabbing Dan in the chest with his fat, sausage-like finger. I have no idea why this guy got so bent out of shape. I was polite and did ask how I could help.

    Sorry this post was extremely long, but I like to be descriptive. Hopefully it wasn't boring.
    Age and wisdom don't necessarily go together. Some people just become stupid with more authority.

    "Who put the goat in there? The yellow goat I ate."

  • #2
    Whistling does not endear a customer to ANYONE. You handled this to the best of your ability. Well done & way to teach a jerk like that a lesson. YAY for your supervisor & the other customers too!
    The universe is mostly empty space, and so is your job. ~Dilbert

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    • #3
      Kinda sounds like a lady in my store a few months ago that took a few steps up a ladder and waved her arms around trying to get someone's attention. Now I don't know if the ladder had been chained properly, if she had unchained it or what. *shudder* lawsuit begging to happen!

      Knightmare, I would have done the same thing you did which was ignore such idiotic whistling!! It really isn't that psychologically damaging to walk up to an employee and ASK NICELY for help! But if I AM with another customer, just try to catch my eye and i'll get to you as soon as possible.
      The nerve of some people.

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      • #4
        hmm lets see how i've been called
        whistling, the come hither finger gesture, a yelled HEY YOU HEY HEY HEY HEY YOU, just asking a question from behind me without addressing me, all kinds of crap like that
        i always ignore it as well

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        • #5
          Reminds me of the first SC to go tattle on me.

          I was in the middle of waiting on some other people in the Greenhouse, when she just interrupts us to ask where something is. I point her in the right direction and go right back to the other customers.

          She "Hurmphs" off and shortly thereafter I get called to the office.

          Boss#1: "This lady says you were rude and refused to help her."
          Me: "This "lady" interupted me as I was helping some other customers. I pointed her in the direction of what she wanted and went back to the people I was in the middle of helping."

          Her: "When I come into this store, you will drop whatever you are doing and help me! I spend $$$$$ in this store and when I come in I expect to be helped."

          Me and Boss#1:

          Boss#1: "OK, you can go back out back, we are done here."

          Her:
          "First time I ever seen a chainsaw go down anybody's britches,"

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          • #6
            If any customers happen to be reading this:

            It pays to be polite to service people! The only time anybody ever 'beckoned' for me to come over, she needed a price check on an item. Well, as it turned out, the item wasn't in our system yet. Guess who DIDN'T get a deal!
            "At any time, for any reason and without any warning, a meteor could fall from the sky and kill us all."
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            • #7
              It all comes down to common courtesy. All you gotta do is ask and we will help you.

              If I have to do something and go across the store to do it so I can get it out of the way I usually walk fast and if there's people on the way, I take my phone (we each have a phone in the store) and pretend I'm talking on it.

              Yesterday I actually had a customer call and had to go from the back to the front to check something for them. The one lady yesterday came up to me afterwards and the dialogue went something like this:

              Her:"I tried to get your attention earlier but you were ignoring me because you were on the phone!"
              Me:"Yes I was on the phone."
              Her:"Yes I tried to get your attention."
              Me:"OK, well I was on the phone with another customer, can I help you now?"

              Then she asks something like where are your pens (ummmm other side of the store beneath the big sign saying "WRITING somethingorother"). Coulda saved a lot of time by just looking up and reading the signs.
              "They have the internet on computers now?"
              ~Homer Simpson

              Another day at work, another broken desk

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              • #8
                Quoth pbmods
                If any customers happen to be reading this:

                It pays to be polite to service people! The only time anybody ever 'beckoned' for me to come over, she needed a price check on an item. Well, as it turned out, the item wasn't in our system yet. Guess who DIDN'T get a deal!
                Do not bite the hand that can give you deals.

                Had a customer really assholish to me the one day. Both he and his wife. They ended up purchasing a palm pilot or pocketpc something like that. Well anyway I had to go get it from where we keep them locked up (they were "shocked" that we don't have these out on floor ummm...yeah 400 dollar item right in plain sight...riiiight)

                So I grab it and we go to the register and the item scans at something ridiculous like $40 or so. Now if they were nice I woulda been like "Well what can you do?" I woulda still called a manager over but they woulda just let it go since it scanned wrong. I called one of our cool managers over and she immediately over writ the price back up to what it was.

                She later told me how they were making rude comments about me to her while waiting the whole 2 minutes it took me to get it.
                "They have the internet on computers now?"
                ~Homer Simpson

                Another day at work, another broken desk

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                • #9
                  Quoth Knightmare
                  Sorry this post was extremely long, but I like to be descriptive. Hopefully it wasn't boring.
                  Boring? Hell no!

                  I think those two customers deserve a Customer of the Year award!

                  I wonder if C1 had any Retail or other job experience in dealing with the public like C2, or if she was just an incredibley nice person. It's one thing for a a comrade in arms to help out, because they've been there, done that, and that's great, but it's really kewl to just have a regular ol' customer go to such lengths to back you up.

                  Maybe you should have shook your sweat, dirt, manure combo all over the SC!
                  Meow.........

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                  • #10
                    SCs have to realize that retail/service people are like cats. If we don't sense that we're getting the respect we're entitled to, we can and will ignore you.

                    I DESPISE when someone whistles/snaps their fingers to get my attention. Maybe I should be walking around with a chokechain and a leash attached to my work uniform? (Of course, the perverts at work would try to have a field day with THAT, but that's a future post for Off Topic...)

                    And mad props to the NICE customers who helped put Mr. Asshat in his place!!!!!! Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                    Unseen but seeing
                    oh dear, now they're masquerading as sane-KiaKat
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                    3rd shift needs love, too
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                    • #11
                      I would think there wouldnt be so many idiotic, spoiled rude brats living down in Florida, given that they're living right next door to a third-world, 50-year-old Communist dictatorship that only has electricity only half the time!

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                      • #12
                        SC needs a session with a clue by four or possibly the woodchipper. C1 and C2 are cool and deserve a cookie or four!

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                        • #13
                          Thankfully, in my case, I've only had two SCs whistle to get my attention. The first time I heard the whistle (very faintly, I might add) from across the store. I immediately sensed what it was, but didn't turn around. The whistling got louder and I turned my head and saw this guy waving his arms like he was trying to fly to the store's ceiling to get my attention. I approached him, and politely said (after he asked why I didn't immediately serve him) "I'm sorry sir ... when I hear whistling I think its either a guy complimenting an attractive girl, or somebody looking for their pet...now how can I help you?" He didn't turn irate ... he simply asked for a price check on something.

                          The second time was different. The store was almost completely empty, and I was on my way to the backroom (walking through Domestics) to get something for a customer I was already serving. Like the original post, the whistling was VERY loud, almost so loud you'd expect the person's face to break or something from the muscle strain. I noticed (out of my peripherial vision, just at the right angle so he couldn't see) someone looking towards me wanting help.) I walked into the backroom and ignored the idiot. About 5 seconds later, I heard on the walkie talkie "Guest Assistance needed in Domestics near the backroom door."

                          "In cases of customer bathroom emergencies, the toilet itself becomes less of a goal and more of a loose suggestion." - Shamus

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                          • #14
                            Quoth ditchdj
                            I would think there wouldnt be so many idiotic, spoiled rude brats living down in Florida, given that they're living right next door to a third-world, 50-year-old Communist dictatorship that only has electricity only half the time!
                            well that was an interesting description. However, most "spoiled rude brats" in Florida probably couldn't spell "Cuba". Let alone understand or even acknowledge the political climate in Florida.
                            I've lost my mind ages ago. If you find it, please hide it.

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                            • #15
                              Quoth Knightmare
                              Sorry this post was extremely long, but I like to be descriptive. Hopefully it wasn't boring.
                              Hell no! Well written and not lengthier than required to tell the whole story.

                              What a complete *&#^$#*.

                              He proved he knew that whistling wasn't appropriate by lying that he'd called "Excuse me". He knew then that if he'd said he whistled, you wouldn't get in any trouble. Good on C1 and C2 to stand there and back you up.

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