Wow, you REALLY want to work here don't you?

[CrazedClerkthe2nd]

I'm sorry, I know we have a sticky for "how not to get hired" but this particular applicant seriously deserves his own thread. You'll know why in a minute.

He applied a few months ago and since that time has called at least once or twice A WEEK to check on his application. We've already given him a time frame for when we may be hiring but that hasn't stopped the calls.

Every time he calls, he insists we hunt down his resume and mark off that he called. I don't do this, I'm not sure if anyone else does but I doubt it because if we did, his resume would be covered with notations and look extremely unprofessional.

Inevitably, he always gets irritated when he calls and I tell him at our potential hiring window has been delayed or that we don't know for sure when it will be. He's long crossed the line from being persistent to being annoying.
I wish I could toss his application in the circular file but I don't get to make that call.

Now I know it's not so bad so far, but what he did last week takes the cake.

He shows up at the store on FRIDAY night, at close (literally, we already had the gates pulled) to...you guessed it...check on his application!

I honestly have no words. I have NEVER seen an applicant do something so dumb.

The good news about this is our store manager (i.e. the one who does the hiring) WAS working last night and she was extremely pissed that this guy had the nerve to show up when he did and ask about a job (we'd have a very long and busy day and were more than ready to go home). Hopefully he's just sealed his fate but somehow I doubt we've heard the last of him.

[Hyndis]

How old is the person?

When I was younger I had a severe case of helicopter parents. They would basically force me, while watching, to call the place I applied to.

On a daily basis.

Yes they would actually watch and make sure I picked up and dialed and asked about my application. Day after day.



Ugh! Of course I never was hired for these positions. Wonder why! It was just insanity. At that point I no longer wanted to work there and I'm sure the poor businesses I ended up harassing also didn't want me to work there, but nope, had to keep calling them. Every day. For a month.

Turns out that once I finally was able to ditch them for good my job hunting became far, far better. What a surprise!



Sadly this was also true with my personal life. Many a SO was chased off by aggravating helicopter parents. Outright stalking me, listening in on everything, continually barging in to see how things were doing, then shocked as to why SO fled in horror and at why I was using harsh language at parental units.

My early years sucked.



/derail

[CrazedClerkthe2nd]

It happened again!

Tonight another guy showed up at 9:50 PM, just as we were getting ready to lock up and leave, to drop off a job application.

What is with these people?

(for the record, both are at least 20 years old)

[malmalthekiller]

I had a lady call 3 times a day about her application/drug and background test results.

Guess what? She didn't pass her background check. At least there is a God (maybe).

[ravevolution]

We have 'non-potential' applicants like that once in a while. Our company no longer (and for sometime) does not do paper applications. Interested applicants are to apply online where if a position is available they are contacted by HR for a interview.

Sometimes you will get someone doing a follow up on their application, in which we transfer them to HR.

There was one time this guy kept calling asking to speak to our manager, and well even though it is up to our manager to hire them or not. It is not his job to look into possible applicants, HR is the one who takes care of it.

So one day he calls in and ye ole me picks up the phone. He asks to speak to my manager, but that day he was off. So I told him I would get his name and contact number. The guy was being a douche, saying things like "make sure he gets it" "I've been calling everyday and he hasn't called me back" his attitude was full of suck. . . it's like why would we want you here if your being a jackhole to us over the phone?

I lay into him a bit saying how he should follow up with HR since they are the ones that take care of the application process. I also advised him if he wanted to work here he should be polite and not an ass about stuff to us since well we would be his potential (highly unlikely) CW's.

Course he never got a job offer from us

[Whiskey]

While I was out of work I had a job coach make me call every job I applied for twice a week every week. I told them I felt annoying and they vehemently held to the fact that it was effective and would get me the job. The job I got I never called about.

[MaseMan]

Yeah, as an employer, the repeated follow ups on an application are really annoying. The old adage, "Don't call us, we'll call you," definitely applies to job seeking. One followup call or email is OK. After that it's just plain annoying and makes you look desperate.

We don't even have applications. We require a resume, as I find it's a better demonstration of the person's computer and organization skills.

[persephone]

When applying for a job, if I don't go in person to drop off my resume, I will make one call to make sure the resume was received and, after an interview, write a thank you note to whoever interviewed me.

Otherwise? I don't usually call at all. I've found it just annoys people.

[PepperElf]

now i can understand a weekly call - it's one of the things i recommend doing myself

however... ONLY if the company you're applying to actually agrees to accept a weekly call. and that the weekly call should never last longer than 30 seconds, unless the company wants to talk to you longer.

basically a hi/touching-base call.


sounds like this guy doesn't understand moderation

[Dreamstalker]

While I was out of work I had a job coach make me call every job I applied for twice a week every week. I told them I felt annoying

My job coach did the same thing...insisted on going to the initial interview with me and every question I was asked, she would look at me expectantly when I was already formulating a response. I'm not sure what that tactic was supposed to accomplish, but it just struck me as odd (I'm nervous already and you are not helping). She also 'coached' me on the personality test which I'm pretty sure is a no-no.

Upon finding out that I been called in for a second round and had spoken to the store manager (and gotten all the way to discussing salary and hours) without her, she took over, spamming the district HR director about my application. The fact that this was happening close to Black Friday probably didn't help either.

I didn't get the job. To this day, I wonder if her interview-helping tactics in fact sent a negative message, such as "if this person needs a coach for the interview, what will happen if they're hired?"

[ArcticChicken]

On the other hand, calling worked for me. Of course, I only called once a week or so, and I was very polite, and if they'd given me a date they weren't going to hire 'till, I would have shut up until then.

I also wouldn't even think of trying that tack outside of the high turnover environment of retail.

[mikoyan29]

when I was first out of college there was a place where I would call once a week because I knew the person hiring me and eventually the position opened up and I got it.

[Brojekk]

[QUOTE=Dreamstalker;753378]My job coach did the same thing...insisted on going to the initial interview with me and every question I was asked, she would look at me expectantly when I was already formulating a response. I'm not sure what that tactic was supposed to accomplish,
I think alot of that has to do with their ego. It's probably more important to them than it is to you.

[Dreamstalker]

I think alot of that has to do with their ego. It's probably more important to them than it is to you.

I know she's supposed to be enthusiastic about getting me a job, but in this case it backfired severely, and I still don't think she sees that.

It was almost like getting RIGHT in someone's face if you think they're not paying attention. Instead of focusing on the interviewer across the table like I wanted to do, I had to deal with her six inches away (my natural reaction to someone I don't know very well getting that close is to pull away or focus on them, and she knew this).

[tropicsgoddess]

I'll admit, I'm not the most patient person and having to wait for an answer on being hired or not kills me but I refuse to do all that stuff that sucky applicants do (incessant calls, harassing employees, etc.). After all first impressions are lasting impressions.