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  • I hate this goddamn job.

    Management saw this coming months ago. They knew we were expanding. They knew we were bringing new machines on as fast as we could install them. They knew we needed a lot more people. A lot more. They knew that the quality inspectors, such as myself, would not be able to keep up with the workload.

    Did they do anything?

    No. Don't be stupid. Of course not. They act as though it all came about suddenly, as though we all woke up one day (or evening as the case may be for those of us on the night shift) went in and -- wowzers! -- there sure is a lot more running than there used to be! I guess we'll all have to double up and pitch in!

    This is how some of my coworkers have come to be working 30+ days without a day off. Others have worked more than 20. This has been going on since the spring.

    Meanwhile, I've avoided working any overtime at all, and for a very good reason. The great state of North Carolina pays to keep me alive because I have an incurable illness. They are not willing to pay to keep me alive, however, should my income rise above a certain level. I explained this to HR. I explained this, as humiliating as it was to have to do so, to my immediate supervisor -- when he came to me to ask about the letter I'd written making a formal request to drop my pay by $.45 an hour in order not to make too much.

    And today? Another supervisor, who has been stalking me in the halls trying to get me to take some overtime ("You know you'll have to pick a day," she says, "So just get it over with and take one."), approached me just after shift ended and said, "You're working tomorrow night and Monday night."

    "I'm going out of town on Wednesday," I said.

    She scowled, sighed, rolled her eyes and said, "Then you're working Monday and Tuesday. I guess we'll have to find someone to cover for you Wednesday."

    And as a result, I'm literally so angry I can't see straight. You know what, lady? Fuck you. You were the bitch who called me up last December 27th at precisely 9am to scream at me for going over your head to corporate when it looked like the deal you'd cobbled together with them to keep my income down for the year had fallen through. I have never forgiven nor forgotten that, nor will I. You screamed at me because I was scared. Now, despite you knowing my situation, you're forcing overtime on me, pushing me toward making too much money, and pushing me toward losing my health coverage.

    Fuck you. For every two days of overtime you make me work, I'll have to take three days off sometime later this year. It will cost the company money then, just as it will cost you now to make me work overtime. Of course, that's if you all don't decide I'm not worth the fuss and just fire me.

    So God damn you, your job, my job, and and this entire motherfucking factory. Every day when I'm getting ready for work I turn on the news in hopes of hearing that a fully-loaded 747 dropped straight down on the whole miserable place, but that never happens because God doesn't love me enough to ever let it happen.
    Drive it like it's a county car.

  • #2
    She knows that it's your life on the line if you make too much and still try to force you?
    What if you go on working normal hours? What can they do that is worse than the anxiety in January? Even if they fire you, it's better than dying.

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    • #3
      I remember you posting that. I'm sorry. Aren't there any laws against mandatory overtime?
      "Is it hot in here to you? It's very warm, isn't it?"--Nero, probably

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      • #4
        In almost every case I've heard of, the answer is nope. They have to pay you once you go over though.
        Try to get her in trouble with another higher-up?
        This is giving you gray hairs you don't need.
        "Is it the lie that keeps you sane? Is this the lie that keeps you sane?What is it?Can it be?Ought it to exist?"
        "...and may it be that I cleave to the ugly truth, rather than the beautiful lie..."

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        • #5
          I remember your posts at the end of last year. I am really glad that you're still in the program.

          At this point, if it were me, I'd say, flat out, that it won't happen. I don't have to pick a day and won't be picking a day. I will continue to work my regularly scheduled hours and continue to work the maximum number of said regularly scheduled hours and not a moment longer so as not to endanger my own health.

          And I will never get the thinking that goes into working people so hard that they have to pay double-time rather than just hiring more people. It can't be cost-effective over the long term.

          ^-.-^
          Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden

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          • #6
            Just don't go in. Do. Not. Go. In. You have your reasons. Sick day? Personal day? You're not going in.

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            • #7
              I agree with emax4 - it's not worth risking your insurance for some management powertrip over you. Don't go in.

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              • #8
                Mandatory overtime is not illegal. No matter what anyone thinks or feels. However, there ARE ways around it. Doctors notes work, until your place of employments does what mine did and starts refusing them.

                Count me in as someone who doesn't understand forcing their employees to work all the damn time versus hiring new people.

                In the case of the OP, he may have enough ammo if he gets a note from the doctor forbiding working overtime for health reasons.
                You really need to see a neurologist. - Wagegoth

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                • #9
                  In my first job as a young buck Quality Engineer, it was just as the Auto Industry was seriously surging again. I used to have to go around to collect the SPC charts. The people that ran the presses were working some pretty serious overtime. So for grins, I would mark a tick when a press was actually running because I thought the efficiency numbers they used were crap. I would go at random times of the day and pretty soon, I got a pretty good sample size and noticed that the presses were running about half of the time (if that). I guess overtime would be better than running the presses when people are supposed to be there.

                  And now that I'm an old crotchety quality engineer, I see that management is still equally stupid. I get it that in some circles, inspectors are not considered as value added but still...if the company has used them all along and they are expanding, they should expand the inspectors as well. Especially since you are talking new lines and new lines always have new issues which means you need even more inspectors.

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                  • #10
                    Long story short, I told my supervisor what the other supervisor had done, and that irritated him. He told me he would talk to her and tell her to "keep her beak in her own shift." I found out today that he did so... and now the overtime is mandatory for everyone.

                    Don't want to work it? Quit. Refuse to work it? Get fired.

                    And so today marks day 2 of a 7-day slog. The calendar for August is circulating for people to sign up for overtime. We all have to take at least four or five days.
                    Drive it like it's a county car.

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                    • #11
                      It's definitely time to go to the Doctor's and get a note or something. Do all you can to try and get around it. I'd say "Go get a new job," but we all know it's easier said than done. I wish I knew more resources to try and help you get around it. Hang in there though.

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                      • #12
                        An update.

                        The overtime is still ongoing and there is no end in sight. Furthermore, we've gotten word that people even tried to apply for positions in the quality department but were told that the plant is not hiring for quality. Perhaps the overtime is going to be a permanent fixture. I don't know.

                        I do know that I worked overtime in July and August, and set up three weeks of unpaid personal leave in October to balance it out. The process of getting coverage for those weeks would make another thread in and of itself. However, that set things to rights, more or less, although I had to work over in September and a day in October as well.

                        I did the math today and if I take four days off this month, and don't work any overtime, I should come in under budget for the year. I'm going to talk to my boss about it tonight.
                        Drive it like it's a county car.

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                        • #13
                          Quoth Food Lady View Post
                          I remember you posting that. I'm sorry. Aren't there any laws against mandatory overtime?
                          None. And North Carolina is a right to work state.

                          Lvl 9, is there anything in the ADA that would help you here? You have a legally recognized disability with your illness. Try getting a doctor's note limiting the number of hours of overtime you can work (or better, no over time at all) due to the stress it would place on your immune system (which is a true statement, btw). Your employer has to make "reasonable accommodation," which might get you off the hook.

                          Wish I'd seen this thread months ago to suggest this
                          They say that God only gives us what we can handle. Apparently, God thinks I'm a bad ass.

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                          • #14
                            Quoth blas View Post

                            Count me in as someone who doesn't understand forcing their employees to work all the damn time versus hiring new people.

                            It's all a numbers game. In alot of companies, it's cheaper forcing the current emplyoeers to work an extra day a week for months at a time, then hireing new people for the same out of labor time. Forcing people to overtime, all they have to pay extra is for the 'half' time for time and 'half'. When new hires, not only do they factor in new hires wage, but benefits, and also things like unemployment insurance, workman's comp insurance. PTO.. etc..which normally 'exceeds the extra 'half' time.
                            Just sliding down the razor blade of life.

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                            • #15
                              Plus a lot of manufacturing takes a certain amount of time before a newbie gets up to the same speed as old-timers. Our factory has over a hundred years of experience between just a few people. It can take the newly-hired months before they start working at a similar speed. Paying a few hours overtime is much more cost effective than hiring 3 new people to manage the same work load.
                              A lion however, will only devour your corpse, whereas an SC is not sated until they have destroyed your soul. (Quote per infinitemonkies)

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