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    I nearly blew a fuse on Friday at the call center. My first or second call during my shift was from someone who claimed we owed her money (surprise, surprise). I told her that I could see from the notes on her order that we did owe her more than she had already gotten, but that the total amount would be $900. She insisted that it was supposed to be $977, which was approximately 10% of her original order subtotal.

    Now, when this woman first called in, she asked for someone in another call center and gave me this person's extension. I can't transfer directly to the other call centers because they're owned by High End Home Store and our call center is a 3rd party provider, so I put her on hold and called the other call center asking for Employee X. Employee Y, whom I talked to, said that apparently EX was no longer with the company as the extension went to someone else and neither of us could find EX on the company directory. So I went back to the customer and asked if I could help her, which was when she told me about the money we supposedly owe her.

    I went through not one, but TWO team leads in my call center about the amount. Both said that the notes only showed that we owed her $900 in total, about $590 more than she'd already gotten, and that's all she was going to get. Here's the clincher: I have been told - repeatedly - that unless the customer SPECIFICALLY asks for a "supervisor" or "manager", I can't transfer her to one and ask them to take the call, I have to handle it myself. All fine and dandy if they just want to argue, I can just keep repeating "no" all day long. But the customer kept dancing around the supervisor issue, asking who she could talk to who could get her what she was owed.

    This is where the blood vessels in my neck started to stick out. I knew damn well she wanted to talk to someone higher up but because she didn't say the magic word(s), I had to pretend like I didn't know what she was talking about. I finally managed to get around it by asking what capacity Employee X had been in when they talked a few months ago, and at that point I finally got her to say supervisor. But I still felt like I had coached her into saying it and that I was going to get in trouble for transferring the call. I also felt like a total douchewaffle for making this woman play this stupid game and getting her more and more escalated, not to mention making my own blood boil. Fortunately the team lead I got on the third try took the call...but I was absolutely livid. I couldn't even shake it off until at least lunchtime, though I didn't take it out on anyone else.

    When the workday was over I ended up staying an hour late because my own direct supervisor had asked me to go over my graded calls for the week and then go to her if I had any questions. I had a long list, and I left this particular issue for last. My supervisor is awesome, so I knew she'd listen to me rant, and I did. I told her that I thought it was an assinine policy to have to get a specific word out of a person before I could transfer a call where the customer left no doubt that they wanted to speak with someone above my level. On the other hand I also didn't see why the customer didn't think to use one of those words or at least say she wanted to talk to someone above me...but there could be a lot of reasons for that. Fortunately, my supervisor saw my point and felt badly that I was so upset by the whole thing - she is going to bring it up in her next meeting with the other supervisors and our senior manager and ask how far the caller has to go before we can get them to someone who can actually either help them or (again) explain why we can't or won't do what they want. I don't really blame anyone I work with directly on this issue...it's obviously a corporate policy, either by the call center or by our client or both, but I think it's much too restrictive. My coworkers know me well enough to know that I don't try to pawn angry people off on them just because I don't want to deal with them myself.

    I am going to start telling everyone I know to ask for a supervisor, or higher level manager, when talking to a customer service agent (anywhere!) who cannot help them with their issue. I don't want anybody to be rude, I just think it would save a lot of time. And of course, if the particular employee works for a place where the rules are different, he or she might not be able to get a supervisor involved anyway (since we all know some have no spines), but it's worth a shot. Sigh...

    OK, I feel a little better now. Think I'll finish up some chores and then watch TV with the hubby while eating cookies.
    "I was only LOOKING, I didn't mean to enter my card's CVV and actually ORDER! REFUND ME RIGHT NOW!!"

  • #2
    When I was doing internet tech for Comcast, it was actually an outsourced call center. The company had specifically told us that we couldn't hang up on an ornery customer and we weren't supposed to call for sup's or managers without directly being asked.

    This resulted in me being berated for 45 minutes by a woman who flipped out because at the time comcast pw's were 8 digits but everyone elses were 6 digits. It got so bad that everyone around me could hear her, and I had the guy that sits next to me standing behind me with his hand on my shoulder and I was balling.

    After about a half hour, I escalated it to a team lead myself but he didn't get to me in time. By the time she hung up, my hands had made imprints in the chair. The guy on the company chat I had been talking to asked if I was ok (he could see what was happening from where he was sitting. They helped us with tech questions if we couldn't find the answer and he wasn't allowed to leave the seat). I said no.

    At that point the team lead got to me and took me off the phone for over an hour. If he hadn't, I'd have walked right then and there.

    When I resigned (about a month later), one of the team leads said "I don't know what it is, but we get someone trained and then they quit. I don't know why".

    Really? You don't know why? Its not that hard to figure out.

    I can completely relate. You could not pay me enough to do that job again. And they did pay us very well. $15 an hour plus incredible benefits. It just isn't worth the torture.

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    • #3
      At least I'm pretty sure everybody who works at my call center, from agents on the floor up to the highest rung of management, knows EXACTLY why the turnover rate is so high.
      "I was only LOOKING, I didn't mean to enter my card's CVV and actually ORDER! REFUND ME RIGHT NOW!!"

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      • #4

        This sounds like a policy installed at the behest of someone who doesn't want to deal with customers if there's any way at all of avoiding it. I can't imagine why else they would institute a policy that basically forces their employees to play stupid games with customers. Glad to hear your supervisor understood the situation and will raise the issue at the next management meeting. Here's hoping it produces some positive results!

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        • #5
          Thanks Since it's been a week, when I had my coaching session with my supervisor today I brought it up again and she had forgotten (then again, the senior manager has been out all week) and she called another one of the supervisors over. He said that if it's obvious they are asking for a supervisor but not using the word, and I have already discussed the issue with a team lead, I can say "WE cannot do this for you" and repeat as necessary. The term "we" might lead the person to then ask who "we" are or ask to speak to the other person...and he said he knows that the team leads we have will take a call if it's obvious the customer is asking for someone else and we ask that lead to take the call on that basis. We'll see if that's true or not...he did say it in the presence of most of the team leads so if they wouldn't do it before, they probably will now We also had a discussion about some of the leads on the assist line in the other two High End Home Store call centers, and how a few (whom were named) have actually refused to take calls they are supposed to take. I hope those people get called out on it.
          "I was only LOOKING, I didn't mean to enter my card's CVV and actually ORDER! REFUND ME RIGHT NOW!!"

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          • #6
            "... I'm sorry ma'm, I can't help you."
            ....
            "I'm sorry ma'm, I can't help you..."
            ...
            "I am a mere lowly peon, who has no power."
            ...
            "Who does? ... Not I. It is verboten to say, however, that is the extent of... THEIR Power."
            ...
            "Really? Think about it. I'm a grunt. Who's in charge of me?"
            ...
            "THERE you go. Getting one now."
            RE-diculous. or reDICKulous...
            (sounds like you need one)
            EDIT: "I'm sorry ma'm; to say the name is to summon the thing. If I say it, it will eat me. I have mouths to feed."
            Last edited by teh_blumchenkinder; 09-24-2011, 02:08 AM.
            "Is it the lie that keeps you sane? Is this the lie that keeps you sane?What is it?Can it be?Ought it to exist?"
            "...and may it be that I cleave to the ugly truth, rather than the beautiful lie..."

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            • #7
              Bonus points for the cool Voldemort pic. And thanks for the hugs. I almost had the same issue with a customer today but he finally asked for "the supervisor's supervisor".

              Off topic, but my (late, dearly departed, sometimes fun and had really cool gadgets but was a good SC candidate not to mention completely self absorbed) uncle would take you to task for pronouncing the word "REE-diculous". I mean, EVERYONE knows its's "RIH-diculous", unless they were raised by wildebeests, right?? Seriously, that was like his biggest pet peeve...lol.
              "I was only LOOKING, I didn't mean to enter my card's CVV and actually ORDER! REFUND ME RIGHT NOW!!"

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              • #8
                eeee~ bonus points! :nom: you are quite welcome for the hugs.
                I emphasized both for effect. Everyone knows it's said rɪˈdɪkyələs!
                "Is it the lie that keeps you sane? Is this the lie that keeps you sane?What is it?Can it be?Ought it to exist?"
                "...and may it be that I cleave to the ugly truth, rather than the beautiful lie..."

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