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    You may or may not know this, but I am an artist. It's more of a hobby than a job because...well...because I do it for fun and don't do a lot of pieces to sell mostly because the few classmates and aquaintences and such who wanted to commission me expected 5 star work, right now, for less than $2. Most didn't get past the talking stage and only one or two went the whole way through.

    Because I draw/paint/sculpt/whatever for myself, I will occasionally design a character after myself. At the moment, I have 3 persona all with different hair color, eye color, personality types, and auras.
    1) Kisa: An animal/human hybrd. My avatar resembles her most, but is not her because I'm too lazy to create and scan a good image of her.
    2) Delilah: A fighter with a soft side. 100% human, but toughened by living in harsh conditions.
    3) Rune: An introverted girl very much like me, but more coordinated and into swordplay.

    Recently, I was asked by a friend of a friend if I could draw a colored image of my character "sitting pretty" whatever that means. Before getting into pricing and time frames, I asked which character. I can draw Rune anytime because she is me. Delilah I need to be calm for. Kisa is hardest for me to draw because I have to be in a very specific mindset to draw her correctly. I won't draw her half-assed.
    Their reply blew my mind. "Oh IDK, can you do a combo of all of them?"
    NO I MOST CERTAINLY CAN NOT!!! They are 3 different characters with totally different personalities and totally different backgrounds and totally different characteristics, many of which contradict each other. I can't even BEGIN to imagine a way to combine all 3 into one, solid, cohesive character. Then there's picking a background that all 3 characters could fit into.
    I pretty much told him to pick one because mashing them together is not possible.
    His answer? "Whoever is sexiest. My computer is busted so I need some material to use."
    In the nicest way possible, I told him to f*** off. I'm not wasting my time slaving over a piece for you to use as porn. Bye bye!

    A few years back, I had a classmate ask if she could use Kisa in her personal Manga during a discussion of our characters (we were both writers/ artists).
    I asked for basic info of the plot and what part she would play.
    She went on to outline a greek mythology type story with faries, unicorns, elves, and a phoenix embarking on a "Lord of the Rings" type journey to recover magical sataues to restore the peace or something. Kisa was going to be the damsel in distress who is constantly rescued by the main character and begins lusting after him.
    Some BG on Kisa: she grew up alone as an outcast and quickly learned to fend for herself. Her power is infinate, there's no enemy she can't defeat, and her pride keeps her from asking for help. She will sooner lose an arm than come crying to some guy for help. She's one of those characters who always has that don't-talk-to-me-leave-me-the-fu**-alone look and only opens up to a select few who stick around through her attitude and such. She acts like she couldn't care less, but she still cares in her own way.
    Because this part contradicted everything she is, I said no and explained why.
    She basically said I was being stupid and that she isn't real so what does it matter if the part doesn't suit her.
    In the end, she designed her own fox/human hybrid girl named Kitsune for the part and offered a half-hearted apology for pissing me off.
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    Dumb looks are still free.

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    ...I am going to sound like a snarky bitch, but as someone who spoke Japanese for so long...(13 years)..

    I AM EFFING TIRED OF THESE UNCREATIVE PEEPS NAMING THEIR CHARACTERS "KITSUNE".

    .../breathes.

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    • #3
      Quoth Kisa View Post
      Because this part contradicted everything she is, I said no and explained why.
      She basically said I was being stupid and that she isn't real so what does it matter if the part doesn't suit her.
      Not real? Holy s***! Mine are not only very real to me, also better than many people around.

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      • #4
        Quoth Kisa View Post
        His answer? "Whoever is sexiest. My computer is busted so I need some material to use."
        So basically he wanted to wank to a picture of you? AUGHAUGHAUGHSO WRONG!!!! That is so creepy I don't even have words! (I mean, I know a character and their artist aren't the same person, exactly, but still!)
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        • #5
          I did make a fox/girl character before, but (not wanted to be cheesy) I named her Ayame. Naming a fox girl "Fox" is stupid.

          Not only are those 3 characters real to me, they are me Each of them represents a different aspect of my personality and they all look like me, or at least what I think I look like.

          OMG that is so much creepier now that you point that out! Note to self: BEWARE OF FRIEND'S FRIEND!
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          Dumb looks are still free.

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          • #6
            Quoth Kisa View Post
            I did make a fox/girl character before, but (not wanted to be cheesy) I named her Ayame. Naming a fox girl "Fox" is stupid.

            Not only are those 3 characters real to me, they are me Each of them represents a different aspect of my personality and they all look like me, or at least what I think I look like.

            OMG that is so much creepier now that you point that out! Note to self: BEWARE OF FRIEND'S FRIEND!
            Ayame is pretty. Type of flower.

            But yeah...a lot of people who give their characters japanese "names" are either very uncreative, by naming them the animal or such they are, OR they make up their own out of random words or sounds to make it "sound" japanese."

            That makes me into a ranting mood...sorry.

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            • #7
              I'm not sure which is worse; the creep wanting to use your art for wank material, or the twit wanting to screw up your character for her story. The first one? Ick, go buy a Playboy or something.

              I've had someone try the latter with my original characters. I don't even understand that mindset. Look, if you want to write a story, make up your own damned characters! Don't mess up mine!
              I don't have an attitude problem. You have a perception problem.
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              • #8
                Quoth Kisa
                His answer? "Whoever is sexiest. My computer is busted so I need some material to use."
                1. If friend's friend needs to make a deposit to the First National Bank of Spank, he can buy a Playboy or a Maxim like everybody else.

                2. I could make a second comment, but I won't. I'll be good.
                Knowledge is power. Power corrupts. Study hard. Be evil.

                "I never said I wasn't a horrible person."--Me, almost daily

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                • #9
                  Kisa, now you have me wondering if you'd be willing to share pictures of your characters.
                  To right the countless wrongs of our days... We shine this light of true redemption, that this place may become as paradise...Oh, what a wonderful world such would be...

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                  • #10
                    Quoth Mr Hero View Post
                    Kisa, now you have me wondering if you'd be willing to share pictures of your characters.
                    your computer is busted also?
                    “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser men so full of doubts.”
                    ― Bertrand Russell

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                    • #11
                      Quoth Josh View Post
                      your computer is busted also?
                      Oh my!!!

                      First guy was just creepy.

                      Second person ... I can't write decent fiction to save my life, but if you have a character with 'X' personality and someone wants a character with 'Y' personality ... why don't they just develop their own character?? The character they wanted wouldn't have any relationship to the one you've described anyway!

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                      • #12
                        One of my worst fears (well...kind of, more a behaviour reasoning than an actual keep-me-up-at-night fear) is ending up on TV Tropes' 'Did Not Do The Research' page. Names are just one thing of a character that need a lot of delving. I don't use Japanese much except for a couple who, well, are Japanese; I'm not keen on how it sounds and would rather pinch stuff off Basque culture instead

                        My favourite page for names is Behind The Name: http://www.behindthename.com/

                        Researching names often comes up with fun things. ^^ I know a couple in a literary society, Adrian and Natasha. Adrian is Roman and comes from the same root as Hadrian's Wall and the Adriatic Sea; Natasha, here's the fun bit, is the diminutive of Natalya, which is the Russian form of Natalie, which means 'born on Christmas Day'...she wasn't, but Natalie was the wife of the 4th Century Saint Adrian of Nicomedia.

                        And as for commissions... XP I've heard enough horror stories to never ever ever offer or take any offers for them. Luckily, it's never come up...
                        "...Muhuh? *blink-blink* >_O *roll over* ZZZzzz......"

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                        • #13
                          Anybody who thinks a writer's characters aren't "real" doesn't know any writers. And probably hasn't read much, either.
                          When you start at zero, everything's progress.

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                          • #14
                            I don't draw very well, and never really bothered to get better at it. I write, however, and back in my days of fanfic writing, I did have a few cases where people asked if they could use my characters.

                            Now, this fanfic happened to be WWF/WWE pro wrestling, and did not feature my OCs getting into romantic relationships with the canon characters. There were feuds and action and so on. There were only two writers I trusted to use my characters-- in one case, we collaborated to the degree that our respective fics were considered to be in the same universe. Since our characters were mostly self-contained in their own feuds-- and he later dropped out of writing wrestling fanfic-- it didn't matter overmuch.

                            The other person I trusted to use my characters properly is my online friend Allan Ironside (now calling himself The Rune Reverend on Fanfiction.net), who asked if he could use my OC in his wrestling fic-- which mostly had his own OCs in their own federation. I agreed, and we both had fun with it.

                            There was one other case, a younger writer who was a big fan of my work and wrote his own material. He asked to borrow some of my characters, and frequently asked what sorts of ideas I had in mind for my future fic installments. Since he was boosting my ego a bit, I told him some of the one-liners and whatnot I planned to use way down the line. Lo and behold, I see him promptly using those one-liners in his next fic installment. After that, I withdrew my agreement and told him not to use my characters anymore.
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                            • #15
                              This is why we can't have nice things...

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