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    I may have mentioned here about my trip back to Arizona in April, where surprisingly, my older sister (The Witch) and I mostly got along, but my younger sister (Lil Sis) was so belligerent and defensive that not only I was taken aback, but my older sister was as well; as was my mother, who though she normally defends her children (usually to her other children), made several comments on Lil Sis's behavior; as was my stepfather, who generally is driven mad by The Witch, but even he commented on what a PITA Lil Sis was. All of which was weird, because she had a new boyfriend, who came along with her on the trip, and seemed like a generally mellow and good guy, and for the life of us, none of us could figure what had crawled up Lil Sis's ass and died.

    Well, today we had this exchange on a social network (with the names changed, of course):

    LIL SIS: "So, tonight I brought home a bottle of the fella's favourite wine - and he brought home a bottle of mine. Awwww...."

    --FRIEND ONE: "You two are so right for each other it's sickening...in a lovely way of course! x"

    --FRIEND TWO: "That is awesome...i say finish them both!!!"

    --FRIEND THREE: "isn't that an o'henry story?"

    --JESTER: "And the obvious question is: what are the wines in question?"

    --LIL SIS: "That's totally not the point, my brother."

    --JESTER: "Oh no, sis, I totally understand the POINT of the story. I think it's sweet and romantic, and I love the fact that it happened. But as a fellow wine drinker, I am still curious what your and his favorite wines are."

    --LIL SIS: "Well, I like a nice Spanish Irrelevant, whereas Martyn's partial to a playful little Australian Talk About Something Other Than Booze."

    --JESTER: "Sorry I asked."

    --LIL SIS: "Aw, don't take it personally, Jester. Time and place. x"


    Okay, call me crazy, but is she or is she not being totally snarky and rude here.

    Look, we don't always get along, and there are times when she accuses me of being thoughtless and inconsiderate (and some of those accusations hold some weight, don't get me wrong), but here I was expressing interest in the details, and even after my initial possible faux pas of not LIKEing it or AWWWing it, still made it clear that I thought the whole thing was pretty cool, and was merely trying to find out what their favorite wines were. Why? To add depth to the story. As a fellow wine enthusiast. For potential future gifts. Because I am always curious about the details. Just plain curiousity. Take your pick. But, while she claims I don't often take an interest in her life*, here I am, doing just that, and she basically cuts me off at the knees, telling me that this was not the time or place. Well.....WHY NOT? I don't think I said anything inappropriate or embarrassing, or that I asked something that was not germane. I have always been interested in details, and she knows this.

    So, am I wrong? Is she overreacting, than trying to smooth things over after the fact? (It should be noted that she, living in the UK, is five hours later than me, meaning most of these comments took place between 1 and 3 am her time.)

    *(She gets upset if she sends me an email with 800 of the latest pictures of her dog, or her boyfriend, or locales near her, or any combination of the above, and I don't immediately look at every single one and make some comments. I'm sorry, but I have these things called A JOB and A LIFE. It is not just her that I don't always look at the pics of...I do this with most people, and few of them get upset, because they know that I have a life outside of theirs. Also, I am only slightly exaggerating when I say it's 800 pics of her dog. It's close. And I've never met her dog, so have no emotional attachment to it. It seems cool enough. But seriously, this strikes me as pretty much the same phenomenon as parents who can't understand why the entire world is not as blown away and awed by their children as they are.)

    Feel free to tell me that I'm an unfeeling, inconsiderate wretch in all this. Or that she is just being snarky to be snarky. Or whatever. Just give me your honest opinion. Because I would rather have your brutal honesty, whatever it may be, than what you may think I want to hear.

    I want to hear what you think is the truth, please.

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    Still A Customer."


  • #2
    I'm not sure what crawled up your sis's arse, but it's potent. Yeah, you weren't awwing, but you're not a girlfriend either. That's kinda what we do. Yes, it would've been nice if you have prefaced your comment with it being sweet or something, but yeah. You weren't rude in asking. And if she didn't want to say, then she should've phrased it nicer.
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    • #3
      Honestly? I don't see you've done anything wrong, I really don't. From her point of view, no telling what you're guilty of, LOL I know it sounds a bit soppy and trite, but try to hang in there with her, and keep some sort of communication even if she's a pain.

      My much younger bother decided a few years ago that he just didn't want any reminders of family, and pretty much cut everyone off. I really have no idea what happened. Sure, we hadn't had an idealic relationship, but things were pretty good most of the time. For a while his significant other kept in touch a little bit, and once or twice I got a Christmas card saying how they wanted to start keeping in touch better, but then nothing ever came of it. He's at the other side of the US, so no actual visits in years. I have to admit, I just kinda gave up after a while, and send them a Christmas card every year & let it be. I don't really do Facebook (guess I should) but I do know he posts now and then on a couple of other family member's pages, but never anything personal.

      I really miss him, he's a very sweet, very funny, great to be around person (and so is his significant other). I miss them both like crazy. Some times I think I'll just start emailing him every single day with what's going on in my life, odd comments, just bombard him with stuff and tell him I'm not going away, he might as well give in and keep in touch. But I'm afraid he'd block me or something, and I'd totally ruin chances of ever talking to him again.

      Sigh.

      Sorry to do a sort of thread jack, it just kinda hit a nerve there. Hope you and your sister work things out soon.

      Madness takes it's toll....
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      • #4
        Jester, answer me this question: How old is she? I'm not making an indirect comment about "acting her age," there is a reason for this question...
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        • #5
          Moon, to answer your question, my older sister (The Witch, and for once not the one being horrible) is 46, I am a few days from being 42, and Lil Sis (the one I'm bitching about here) is 40.

          In other words, we aren't kids. Despite what some would say about that considering our collective (lack of) height.

          (If you're wondering, we are, respectively, 5'0", 5'8", and 4'11".)

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          • #6
            No, you're not wrong. Your sister is being a raving bitch.
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            • #7
              What's with the "Sorry I asked."? Not a "Oh, those are nice wines" or "I'll have to try those" as the case may be?

              Sounds to me like Sis knows you too well and did not want to deal with you be snobbish. Now, maybe I am misinterpreting this, but then again, maybe so did Sis.
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              • #8
                Quoth csquared View Post
                What's with the "Sorry I asked."? Not a "Oh, those are nice wines" or "I'll have to try those" as the case may be?
                I assume he said that because she didn't actually give him the names of wines. "Spanish Irrelevant" and an "Australian Talk About Something Else"?

                Those are blow off answers.
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                • #9
                  I don't know about 'raving bitch' but her answers were certainly off-putting. She'd already had two friends do the "AWWWWW" thing. I don't really see what bugged her about your asking what the wines were. Nor can I guess her reason for the "time and place" comment.

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                  • #10
                    Quoth Kheldarson View Post
                    I assume he said that because she didn't actually give him the names of wines. "Spanish Irrelevant" and an "Australian Talk About Something Else"?

                    Those are blow off answers.
                    I guess I should clarify. I thought Jester referred to them as a "Spanish Irrelevant" and an "Australian Talk About Something Else" (not wanting to name the wines in the post and insult their choices). If that is verbatim what Lil Sis said, then yes, she is being snarky.
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                    • #11
                      Quoth csquared View Post
                      What's with the "Sorry I asked."? Not a "Oh, those are nice wines" or "I'll have to try those" as the case may be?

                      Sounds to me like Sis knows you too well and did not want to deal with you be snobbish. Now, maybe I am misinterpreting this, but then again, maybe so did Sis.
                      I said "Sorry I asked" because she made it clear that she thought my question was stupid and pointless, even after I made it clear that (A) I thought the whole thing was cool (which I did), and (B) I was merely curious about the wines.

                      I am hardly a snob in general, and certainly not about wine. I readily admit I don't know enough about wine to BE a snob, even if that were my nature...which it isn't. And frankly, I love Spanish reds, and have had some good Aussie wines, and we have discussed win in the past, without me being snobbish about it (see above), so I don't know what she was on about.

                      I often joke that I am a "beer snob" or a "rum snob," but I'm really not. I call Bud, Miller, Coors, and Corona swill, but I have drank all of them, and still drink Bud and Corona on a fairly regular basis. Not much of a snob, am I?

                      I admit she may have misinterpreted it, and I thought that after my initial comment and her reaction to it, which is why I told her how cool I thought the whole thing was, and was merely curious about the wines.

                      I do not get the whole "time and place" thing. Why would a discussion about her and her boyfriend buying each other their favorite wines NOT be a place to discuss those wines? Or mention them? Or even discuss them?

                      Maybe you get it, but I sure don't.

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                      • #12
                        Quoth Jester View Post
                        I said "Sorry I asked" because...

                        Maybe you get it, but I sure don't.
                        Problem with forums... Your posting the same time I am.

                        As I said, maybe I misinterpreted, and obviously I did. I now understand what you are saying, but I don't get it either.
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                        • #13
                          I can offer a guess as to why she said what she did about the names of the wines...

                          Jester, you tend to be... Hm... Diversionary. You can take a topic from what it originally was and either misinterpret it unintentionally and take it down another path, or read the subtext about a situation incorrectly and change the whole vibe of the thing without meaning to.

                          In this case, your sister's comment was not about the wine so much as the romantic gesture shared between her and her partner. I do think she could have handled the whole situation much more eloquently, but it seems that she didn't want to turn her cute moment into yet another discussion about alcohols and their virtues with you. I suspect that if you had sent her a private message asking for the names of the wines, she would have reacted very differently. But she wanted her original post to be about her and her boyfriend, not about the wines they were drinking.

                          So, I posit that you didn't do anything wrong on purpose, but did ask a question in the wrong place, and that she reacted badly but, to her, justifiably.

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                          • #14
                            Quoth csquared View Post
                            I guess I should clarify. I thought Jester referred to them as a "Spanish Irrelevant" and an "Australian Talk About Something Else" (not wanting to name the wines in the post and insult their choices). If that is verbatim what Lil Sis said, then yes, she is being snarky.
                            I'll clarify: that is verbatim what Lil Sis said. The only thing I changed in that exchange were the names of the people commenting. The text is all presented as it was typed originally, with no changes whatsoever.

                            Quoth the_std View Post
                            In this case, your sister's comment was not about the wine so much as the romantic gesture shared between her and her partner.
                            Oh, I got that, which is what prompted my second comment, which I thought addressed that. Obviously Lil Sis and I didn't agree on that point, however.

                            Quoth the_std View Post
                            But she wanted her original post to be about her and her boyfriend, not about the wines they were drinking.
                            Yes, but she brought up the wine. I know, I know, and I do see what you're saying, but I dare say if any of her friends had asked that same question, she would have answered it. As I mentioned in the OP, when the whole family was gathered in April, all of us found her hostile and belligerent. Also, she has always had a tendency not only to overreact to the most minor of slights, but also to sometimes create slights out of nothing. This is not merely my opinion, but that of the family in general.

                            Quoth the_std View Post
                            So, I posit that you didn't do anything wrong on purpose, but did ask a question in the wrong place, and that she reacted badly but, to her, justifiably.
                            I have no doubt she saw her reaction as justifiable. Doesn't make it any less snarky or bitchy.

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                            • #15
                              Sorry, Jester, you may be having problems with your sister, but I would have been pissed too.

                              I have a friend who will take some of my sweet and sentimental updates completely off tangent by focusing on something that wasn't even the point of my post. I love him dearly, though, so there's not much I can do.
                              (I recently posted a very beautiful tribute to my brothers, and it ended up with this friend making a comment that insulted another friend of mine because he focused on something she said in her reply. Just last week, I posted about my good friend losing his son very suddenly, and yet again, he took the focus off of the point because I hadn't used any profanity in my vent about the week, and he likes to tease me that I'm a potty mouth because I accuse him of having no brain-to-mouth filter. There wasn't even an "I'm sorry for your loss" comment.)

                              Now, if you had commented on the romance part of the situation with her buying her sweetie's favourite wine while he bought hers for her, and then asked, "BTW...what kind of wine did you guys get?" that would have been different.
                              Something like, "That's really sweet. You guys obviously really know each other," or some other comment that was actually about the intent of her post.

                              Instead, you took the focus totally off her. You totally ignored the pretty cute "O. Henry" aspect of the situation. She was trying to shout to her facebook world that she and her partner were obviously in love and so right for each other.

                              You made it about the wine by saying, "And the obvious question is: what are the wines in question?" and, IMO, that trivialized what she just said. That probably hurt her a bit and ticked her off.

                              No offense intended, Jester. You and I have often discussed that you can be a bit oblivious when it comes to subtleties and niceties of social situations, and you sometimes focus on the wrong end of things or miss when you might have hurt someone's feelings.
                              You know you do, buddy.

                              Obviously, there is more under the surface, based on the previous behaviour you described, but I'm sure this did nothing to help things.
                              I'm sorry if you were hurt by the way she handled it, and I'm sorry things aren't right between you guys.
                              Maybe it's time you had an honest talk and cleared the air???
                              Last edited by Ree; 06-02-2012, 05:06 PM.
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