Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

House Hunters: Dejected Frustration Edition

Collapse
This topic is closed.
X
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • House Hunters: Dejected Frustration Edition

    For the past couple of weeks, I've been exploring a new and exciting circle of hell -- the one reserved for people who are looking for a new home. Perhaps you've been there. Looking for a new place to live is the sort of ordeal that has the power to make you want to cling ferociously to the place you currently call home, no matter if it's infested with roaches the size of telephone books and you have to carry a switchblade at all times lest the black mold attempt to attack when you're unawares. Anything so as not to have to go look at another apartment, search through craigslist yet again, ask friends of friends of friends if there's anything in their neighborhood and even if there isn't, could they please let you know should they see something tomorrow or next week.

    The reason we're doing this, of course, is because the apartment complex where we currently live is raising the rent again. It's something they do on a yearly basis, sometimes by a little and sometimes by a lot. It's just one of their little games. And when we saw what they were going to raise it to this year, we decided that if the rent on this crummy place was going to rise on its own to what you'd pay at a luxury complex, we might as well go out and try to find a little luxury. If we're going to be paying for it, after all, we might as well actually have it.

    Ha.

    We've been looking mainly at rental houses and duplexes because it turns out that you can snag an apartment here for a very reasonable price during the summer months, but come September and October -- when our lease is up -- all the apartment rents go up by about $300 a pop. That's why we couldn't get the 2 bedroom, 2 bath apartment with the fireplace, the balcony, and garden space in the complex with the Olympic pool and fitness center-quality workout room. It went up from $790 to about $1100.

    So that leaves us houses and duplexes, whose rents tend to stay a little more static. Unfortunately we've found out why:

    The Condo -- An older neighborhood next to the hospital, within walking distance of downtown. That's the pro. The cons were the bizarre layout with its labyrinthine hallways, the wee narrow living room that was not large enough to contain our sofa and which was much smaller than the enormous master bedroom -- which could not be reached without traversing two hallways. The bathroom off the master bedroom also contained the only bathtub in the place, meaning that if you have company or if someone is living in the second bedroom, they have to go through your bedroom in order to take a bath. The bathtub in the second bathroom had been removed to put in a washer and dryer, but you have to sit on the toilet to use the washing machine because there's no room to stand what with all that in there. To top it off, the place had a weird smell and ugly carpet.

    The Duplex -- The first clue was that of the two back doors, one was covered by an enormous spider web studded with dead mosquitoes. The other back door consisted of a pair of French doors and you could see through them that the blinds were torn to shreds. Inside, there were holes in the walls, holes in the ceiling, cigarette burns in the carpet, mysterious stains and gouges, and there was heaped garbage and construction mess in the backyard. The leasing agent was terribly apologetic and explained that her company represented an absentee landlord who lived in Spain. She would get back to me to tell me what kind of repairs had been budgeted and if we could get discounted rent by doing any of them ourselves. The pros were that the light fixtures that had not been stolen were quite nice and it was located in Oakley, a nice strolling neighborhood with a library and park within walking distance.

    The House -- The house was located in West Asheville, within walking distance of all the shopping, dining, and nightlife on Haywood Road and as such had drawn a crowd. We arrived as another interested party was leaving and another interested party arrived as we were leaving. When a house like this comes open, it goes fast. While my boyfriend filled out an application, I chatted with the landlord and we discussed how some of these older houses sure do have a lot of character.

    "You can tell that houses like this were loved," I said. "Some of them were loved to death!"

    Such as this one. The one we're standing in right now. This one that's such a bargain, and now I can see why. The one that has had God only knows how many ill-thought-out homeowner repairs and projects inflicted on it. The big white one that looks so nice from the street, but which on the inside features a drop ceiling with fluorescent lighting throughout, the random mirrored medicine cabinet in the hallway wall, the nice big living room that was carved in half by shelving -- with shutters on top to block any errant light that might penetrate the gloom of the leftover space that is not wide enough to accommodate any sofa let alone our monster (which I have begun to affectionately call 'Death Couch for Cutie'). The one with the bathroom off the master bedroom that features lights over the toilet, in both linen closets, and in the shower stall, in which all the fixtures are bright blue, and where with all that light there is no place to lounge in the tub and read. And where, in the aforementioned shower stall there is a bench and a soap dish, both shaped like seashells, jutting out in a strangely organic, Disney-esque fashion like something out of The Little Mermaid.

    I get the feeling with all that light that perhaps the last person to live there was a little old lady losing her eyesight and that all of these hideous projects -- which collectively give off enough light to sear an eyeball at twenty paces (except in the living room where the shelves block it all out) were done out of love. I like to think that whenever the residents of West Asheville saw a sudden glow appear on the horizon they thought, "Well, Mrs. Beasley opened her door again. She's probably going to the store. Let's wave if she goes by."

    I like to think so. I told my boyfriend that now I finally understood why people name their houses, and that if we get this house I'm naming it.

    I'm going to call it the White Elephant.

    I could go on. There was, for example, another duplex that was nice and even featured a screened-in porch -- but in which they had installed indoor carpet for a nice, even mildewed stench. However, I have a headache and I don't feel like it. Now it is your turn.

    Any house-hunting horror stories?
    Last edited by Antisocial_Worker; 08-17-2012, 03:23 PM.
    Drive it like it's a county car.

  • #2
    Oh I've found a few "uglies" while house hunting but nothing as bad as what you're describing.

    My problem is being outbid on EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. Sometimes I'm not even outbid. The owner will take 25K less than my offer because someone else is willing and able to pay in CASH.

    Comment


    • #3
      Of the three places we were shown before we narrowed down our search enough, not a single one was habitable as it was, except the first, which was a glorified apartment being called a condo (don't even get me started on that bullshit), and we were getting a place to get away from sharing walls with renters.

      The one we ended up buying met most of our needs for form and function, and due to the owner being a douchebag and his realtor being a sleeze, we didn't really have any competition.

      Thankfully, our agent was awesome, so we didn't have to worry about their agent pulling too much crap, but it still took a lot of work on her part to get him to behave like a professional. >_<

      ^-.-^
      Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden

      Comment


      • #4
        Yes, house hunting is a nightmare. The ones you like are out of your price range; the ones that are in your price range are generally awful.

        Back when we lived in Phoenix and were looking for a house, one house the agent showed us was originally a normal house. Then the owners decided to double the amount of bedrooms, not by adding on to the house, but by cutting each bedroom in half with a wall! So instead of three normal-sized bedrooms, there were now six extremely narrow bedrooms that would've been better suited as walk in closets!

        Another place had dead bugs all over the floor and we could hear the neighbors screaming at each other. Pass.

        The place we ended up getting was a normal house, built in 1957 and with the original metal cabinets in the kitchen and original water heater! We got a good deal, then redid everything, which was a project and a half. New water heater, new heat pump A/C, new cinder block fence to replace the termite-riddled wood fence, a little rewiring (some of the wires were on the outside of the walls!), new kitchen cabinets (which took far longer than it should've because they kept screwing up the countertops!), repainting and reflooring (the walls, ceiling, floor vinyl and carpet were all this bland, hideous beige color. Ugh!). Finally got the place done in time for the baby. Then the neighborhood around us started going to pot.

        We ended up moving out of state six years later. We'll probably be looking to move out of the apartment and into a house within a year or two. Here we go again.
        I don't have an attitude problem. You have a perception problem.
        My LiveJournal
        A page we can all agree with!

        Comment


        • #5
          A good agent is a godsend.

          They can keep you from having to deal with the truly awful and the lovely-but-too-expensive.

          Honestly, the biggest problem with our place is that the former owner belongs to a group of people who tend to never get the permits required for home renovations and does a half-assed job of every improvement done. So, we'll be dealing with issues for as long as we have the place, but it will be far nicer by the time we upgrade to a better one because we're not so cheap and lazy.

          ^-.-^
          Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden

          Comment


          • #6
            The two bedroom flat we looked at where the only furniture in the tiny second bedroom was a set of bunkbeds. Not they couldn't afford more funriture but more that that was all there was room for.

            Or the flat where the hall was so dark the light had to be on during the day beause there were no windows to let any daylight into the hall.

            I'm sure there were more but it was a few years ago that we were looking and we saw a LOT of places!
            "I fell out of favour with heaven somewhere and I'm here for the hell of it now"

            Comment


            • #7
              Quoth Andara Bledin View Post
              Honestly, the biggest problem with our place is that the former owner belongs to a group of people who tend to never get the permits required for home renovations and does a half-assed job of every improvement done. So, we'll be dealing with issues for as long as we have the place, but it will be far nicer by the time we upgrade to a better one because we're not so cheap and lazy.

              ^-.-^
              We must have your former owner's brother as our former owner - at least once a year we go to do a short fix up project that turns into a huge WTF?! For example, I just went to wash/scrub the ceiling in the main bedroom and punched thru it. Apparently, he had "patched" it with a piece of cardboard and mudded over it not with drywall like a normal person.

              OP - I had a broken leg when we were house hunting so I only got to see the "good ones". But one that the broker managed to drag me to was bizzare - excellent view, but the bathroom was a nightmare with stairs in the middle of it to get to the shower and slate (read slippery as heck when wet) tiles. Looking around it appeared that they stuck on rooms where ever they could fit one so there were uneven stairs everywhere to get to nearly every room from the "original" part of the house since the lot was narrow and steep. It wasn't a shotgun house - it was a ricochet house.

              Comment


              • #8
                Quoth auntiem View Post
                We must have your former owner's brother as our former owner - at least once a year we go to do a short fix up project that turns into a huge WTF?!
                It's an entire culture that operates like that, so it's not surprising that other people here have run into the same.

                One of our WTFs is that we're pretty sure that when they re-did the bathroom (and took out the closet of the master bedroom to make more room as opposed to the guest bedroom's closet (same effort required), it appears that they put in tile, and then later plastered over the tile, as it requires a full power drill to punch through whatever it is behind said plaster. >_<

                Not to mention that the tub isn't level so doesn't drain properly, and they have a walled-in dead corner at the end of the tub for no discernible reason and they shortened the run for the sliding door on the tub by 3 inches for, again, no good reason we can possibly come up with.

                ^-.-^
                Last edited by Andara Bledin; 08-17-2012, 09:27 PM.
                Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden

                Comment


                • #9
                  Quoth Andara Bledin View Post
                  A good agent is a godsend.

                  They can keep you from having to deal with the truly awful and the lovely-but-too-expensive.
                  Quoted for Truth.

                  Unfortunately for me, I did not have a good agent. She did a half assed job representing my interests, and I had to push her to do a good job negotiated for the house I eventually bought four years ago (my how the time flies).

                  She showed me one horror house she never should have bothered me with.

                  It was an older house, kinda cute from the outside, had kind of a Victorian feel to it.

                  Inside, the floor plan was a night mare. There were several bed rooms that you had to go through one room to get to the next to get to the next. Ugh.

                  You had to go down a hallway to get from the kitchen to the dining room.

                  The fire place was in the dining room, not the living room or a family room.

                  The owner had decorated extensively in what I can best describe as an "Italinate" style. She had used plaster to make the walls look like exterior walls in an Italian village. Every room was like this--it was like being in the Olive Garden. But her taste was hideous, and removing all the plaster would have been a MAJOR MAJOR job.

                  Even Sell This House could not have done anything with this house (Sell this House Extreme maybe).

                  I exited laughing so hard I could barely breathe. There was no way I would consider putting an offer on that house.
                  They say that God only gives us what we can handle. Apparently, God thinks I'm a bad ass.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Quoth Panacea View Post
                    Unfortunately for me, I did not have a good agent. She did a half assed job representing my interests, and I had to push her to do a good job negotiated for the house I eventually bought four years ago (my how the time flies).
                    We got connected to ours through a referral from my bosslady. We got a referral for getting our car the same way.

                    The first few houses were before we got properly specific about our needs she was on it. She also badgered the slimy seller's agent into using forms from this decade... >_>

                    ^-.-^
                    Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Ok, kiddies, gather round the campfire, grab a nice long stick to roast those marshmallows, make sure you have a good drink in your flask or cooler, and here we go.

                      Military moves, moves from raised rents (once had a 65% increase in one go), places sold out from under us - up til our very last move, all were looking at rentals, last one was to buy. So, on with the show (and these are only a few of the highlights that stand out in my memory).

                      I still remember the first apartment I ever looked at. I was 18 & married. Landlord kept looking at us and saying "NO PARTIES". I seriously asked, what about a few friends over after church? "NO PARTIES - Anything over 2 people is a party!". Umm, would you count my parents & little brother? "That's more than 2 people. NO PARTIES!!". We passed - and had a party at the place we did rent

                      Most of the apartments were normal problems - a kitchen that was literally a 3 foot deep indention in the wall, with fridge & sink on left, stove & a foot of counter space on the right, & barely room to stand between the two; a swimming pool in the courtyard covered in green algea (ICK); bedroom not big enough for a double bed, that type of thing. Most of the ones I remember are a bit more recent, when it was current hubby & daughter, and we were looking more at houses than apartments.

                      There was the one in WV where the lady who showed us the house explained she was the actual owner's mother. It was a nice place, but neglected. She said we could clean it in lieu of deposits and maybe even some rent off - but we'd probably not be able to get the stains off the bedroom carpet, that's where her son parked his motorcycle. Oh, and we'd go thru her, we'd probably never get to meet her son - he had too many felony warrants out on him to come back to the state. After a few more stories of how his motorcycle gang budies still came by to look for him (and only a few were dangerous), plus a comment on how he'd almost lost the place once before not making his mortgage payments, we passed. Hell, we ran.

                      Then there was one three-bedroom house (just the 3 of us, but we love having a den/guest room). The owner said that since it was only the three of us, we only needed two bedrooms, so he'd be using the third one to store the furniture he'd used when he rented it furnished as a vacation home. Oh, and he had his extra car in the garage, so we couldn't have that either.

                      Oh, and one in England, the current tenants were still in the house (the move was their choice, not an eviction or anything), and when we went to see it, the landlord was there as well. As we left, the tenant pressed a piece of paper with his phone number into my husband's hand, whispering "call me for the whole story". We figured he'd probably tell us something he didn't want to say in front of the landlord - like the landlord was a jerk, or problems with the drains. Nope, seems the house was haunted. Among various & assorted noises, objects moved when no one was home, etc., they kept hearing a voice upstairs, saying "GET OUT!". Kinda glad the house wasn't suitable in other ways, not sure what I'd have done if that were the only thing wrong with it

                      There was another place, an old house that had been made into 3 apartments (upstairs, downstairs & basement). It had been redone recently, and was gorgeous, one of the nicest places I've ever been into, from luxury kitchen to repro period light fixtures. Unfortunately, the square footage that the owner had sworn was for the one apartment had to be for at least two of them combined, if not all. It was just too small for us. I'd like to think I wouldn't have let the other thing keep me from renting it - that the house used to be a funeral parlor. At least the apartment we were interested in wasn't the basement apartment - that used to be the morgue

                      Ok, gonna take a break. Go potty, make a cuppa, and meet me back here for more House Hunting Horrors & Tales of the Truly Twisted.
                      Same time, same place, same channel.

                      Madness takes it's toll....
                      Please have exact change ready.

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        We had the fun of trying to find a place to live with only one week to look. Oh, and because hubby was Rear-D he wasn't given any time to look during the day. Add in having to clear post housing, his unit, and the Army when they decided to NOT reclass him but med discharge (changed to med retired) him and it was a bad week. Our realtor SUCKED, didn't make any effort to help us, ignored our wants (not in Anchorage, yard for dog, 2 bedrooms). The one place she showed us as a Hobbit house, hubby (6'3") had to duck under the ceiling fans or be hit in the head, plus it was filthy. The next house had one small heater in the living room and that was it...in Alaska.

                        The house we ended up in was nice but had a weird living room (long and narrow) and oh yeah, turns out she's the agent selling it (found that out at the closing). We were trying to go through the VA when she told us "They are assholes and won't approve you because I don't like them". Yup, sure enough that was what happened. We had her put on the post "Black List" because of that. We ended up loosing the house when I lost my job, but the septic needed to to redone ($10K), roof leaked ($15K). Next time we will live in the RV if we have to until we find/build a house we like.

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          I don't have any real horror stories, just a couple from when my mom bought a house.

                          One of the houses we looked at was tiny. Mom liked it, but the master bedroom was the only normal sized room in the house, everything else was just... small. I was 11 or 12, and I had to turn sideways to get down the upstairs hall. I'm also kinda claustrophobic. I told her that if she made an offer on it anyway, I was moving in with dad.

                          The reason mom was buying was that the owner of the house we rented (and loved) had decided to sell the house, so of course mom put in an offer. The owner's wife wouldn't take it, she was convinced that she could get a better price. (She suspected her husband of having an affair with mom (so not true)). Two weeks after mom bought another house, the owner's wife came back and wanted to accept her offer. They ultimately had to accept an offer that was much lower than mom's.
                          The High Priest is an Illusion!

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            I'm thinking that some of you who have to move a lot might look into getting a Tiny House for those in-between times. It's not a lot of space, as the name implies, but they generally have most of the amenities and can travel.

                            ^-.-^
                            Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              And once again, I find that I have been extremely fortunate . . .

                              I'm moving this weekend, into a two-bed, two-bath apartment with fireplace and its own washer/dryer. I only looked at two complexes, and the only problem I had with this one is having to spend six weeks on a waiting list.

                              The house I'm moving out of, on the other hand . . .

                              And I want one of those tiny houses to go SCA camping in.

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X