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  • Feeling Bad For Friend With Roaches

    Ok doke. I know a very nice girl, my age, but so innocent she seems younger. She's the one I mentioned that her 14YO son suddenly turned on her one day, said he never wanted to see her again, and moved-in with his dad who's NEVER paid a cent of support.

    She was renting a house. The rent was paid to landlord X, however she recently began getting notices from the homeowner that she was behind on rent. Turns-out landlord X was not giving the rent to homeowner Y. Long story short, the house ended-up getting foreclosed on and she was forced to move.

    She found a nice apartment. The apartment owner was anxious to close on it FAST. Although the carpet was nasty and the fridge needed to be replaced, the apartment owner promised it would all be taken care of if she closed today. So she signed the lease.

    Bit of a mistake.

    She went to move-in; the carpet and fridge had been replaced, but then realizes that there is a MASSIVE roach infestation. As in, she opens the closet door and 30 scramble for cover. Then the 'new' fridge stopped working. The apartment owner has promised that someone is coming to take care of the roaches, and he will replace the fridge. 1-session of spraying didn't work; I'm betting the roaches scurry to another apartment then back after the poison is gone. She has NO FOOD out; everything is in sealed ziplocks in tupperware containers. She hasn't brought any furniture or clothing beyond what she might need for the day, because she doesn't want her stuff to get infested - this means she's still paying for her storage unit. She's TERRIFIED of roaches, but has no other place to go, can't afford a hotel, etc. Her husband has been sleeping at his work.

    So in short, for 2-weeks they haven't yet been able to live in an apartment that they've paid rent for. Someone offered her another (clean) apartment for less than what she's paying now, but her landlord said she's not getting out of the lease or he's taking her to court. But HE'S not holding up his end by providing a habitable apartment.

    As luck would have it, we happened to be talking about this when a customer passed by and said she couldn't help but overhear, but that she's an assistant with (insert important law firm here) and managed to give friend some contact information for a pro-bono housing lawyer and told her exactly what she needs to do. Unfortunately, even the assistant admitted that she's pretty trapped in the lease having signed-in and having accepted the apartment 'as is' but told her she has a fighting chance if she can prove the apartment is uninhabitable and that she hasn't been getting what she paid for. What luck huh, that such a knowledgable person would happen along at just the right time?
    "If anyone wants this old box containing the broken bits of my former faith in humanity, I'll take your best offer now. You may be able to salvage a few of em' for parts..... " - Quote by Argabarga

  • #2
    Talk about! Man, I can't even imagine...

    I hope she has the strength to fight this. I'm not a lawyer, but I don't see how accepting an apartment "as-is" can counter leasing one that's uninhabitable. That's the kind of thing where I hear people just stop paying rent.

    I have a feeling her luck's not run out yet though. Best of luck to her.

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    • #3
      (1) Take photos.

      (2) She should call her own exterminator, for an inspection and possibly other treatment, and then bill the landlord. (Check with attorney about this.)

      Roaches don't just eat foodstuffs, though that's their preferred fare; when they don't have a choice, they'll eat glues and other construction materials, leather, and all sorts of organic material. It's a tough fight to get rid of them once they've established themselves.

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      • #4
        She may also want to consider having the apartment condemned.

        Check with the local laws about this but... if I'm not mistaken, if the apartment is declared to be unlivable then the lease becomes expired.


        I'm not a lawyer, but I don't see how accepting an apartment "as-is" can counter leasing one that's uninhabitable.
        Indeed. Even if an apartment is listed "as is", the landlord may still be under legal obligations for upkeep. Clauses like that cannot negate the law.
        Last edited by PepperElf; 09-06-2012, 05:37 PM.

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        • #5
          Even is it's accepted as-is, that can't supercede the landlord's duty to maintain it surely? I had a flat which ended up with a mass of Dry Rot eating up through the carpet & into our sofa. Even though this was determined as being on-site from before we moved in (which we'd have accepted unknowingly during the inspection), it was never considered to be "our problem" and our tenancy agreement wouldn't have allowed us to do any work on the property anyway!
          This was one of those times where my mouth says "have a nice day" but my brain says "go step on a Lego". - RegisterAce
          I can't make something magically appear to fulfill all your hopes and dreams. Believe me, if I could I'd be the first person I'd help. - Trixie

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          • #6
            Tonight is my last night in the apartment I share with my parrot...and I could not be happier. Its a complete slum that I only lived in while I was going to school down the road. I got rats REALLY bad. The property manager is constantly fighting with various garbage removal companies so our dumpster are often overflowing as it will go weeks without someone emptying them.

            I am TERRIFIED of rodents. The other night, I heard one of my traps go off.

            Then I heard the trap getting dragged across the floor. Needless to say I was too horrified to turn on the lights. I just laid there in the dark until morning unable to wake up.

            Next more, there was the trap, dragged all the way to the heater (where they get in and out) with the front leg of a rat. The bastard had chewed its arm off to escape. I await his violent revenge on me if I ever fall asleep.

            I swear I could make out a tattoo on that suckers arm.
            "Beatings will continue until morale improves!"

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            • #7
              Quoth patiokitty View Post
              Also, if she could track down the previous renters of the suite she could perhaps get a statement from them about why they moved out. If it is due to a shitty landlord and the same/similar conditions she is dealing with then it will indicate that this isn't something new and the landlord legally needs to do something about it...or risk getting the rental place condemned. Sounds like it needs it anyways, to be honest.
              Unfortunately, the previous renters moved-out at the end of their lease and may have contributed and/or caused the problem because they were pigs. The landlord must never have done inspections or anything for it to get so out of hand, which is why I don't think he's going to take top-notch priority of this now.
              "If anyone wants this old box containing the broken bits of my former faith in humanity, I'll take your best offer now. You may be able to salvage a few of em' for parts..... " - Quote by Argabarga

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              • #8
                If she can't get help quickly, she can always try the media. If the local paper or TV stations have consumer-watchdog type features, they might be very interested in this story. Nothing gets a landlord off his ass and looking for solutions faster than negative publicity.
                When you start at zero, everything's progress.

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                • #9
                  Agreed. Tell her to first call the lawyers, then call a reporter, and invite them both for a visit to the apartment.
                  Customers should always be served . . . to the nearest great white.

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                  • #10
                    If she wants to get rid of the roaches use boric acid. You can usually get it from home depot and it is called croak-a-roach.

                    This stuff is a powder that you put down in areas they hang out in a lot. What happens with this powder is that it will eat away at the wax on their legs and make it difficult for them to walk also if they ingest it it will kill them. It takes a while but you do not have to worry about them becoming immune to it. Like some of the sprays and what not.

                    I use to be able to kill those suckers with wd40 with one spray. Now if i want them to die i have to pour an entire can on them.
                    "Beam me up Scotty there is no intelligent life down here."

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                    • #11
                      Al's mother's house has a roach problem. What she did was take Borax and mix it with sugar (the sugar attracts them...etc).

                      Works very well. The number has been drastically reduced.
                      My Guide to Oblivion

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                      • #12
                        Quoth CaptainJaneway View Post
                        If she wants to get rid of the roaches use boric acid. You can usually get it from home depot and it is called croak-a-roach.

                        This stuff is a powder that you put down in areas they hang out in a lot. What happens with this powder is that it will eat away at the wax on their legs and make it difficult for them to walk also if they ingest it it will kill them. It takes a while but you do not have to worry about them becoming immune to it. Like some of the sprays and what not.
                        This! Years ago I had to deal with an infestation. It was disgusting. We tried everything. They didn't finally go away until I powdered the entire house with boric acid. Floors, counters, cabinets. Everywhere. I left it for a few days then swept it up. Then re applied it to the edges of the floors and placed boric acid baits in all the cabinets. You can make your own bait by following this recipe from Heloise http://www.nytimes.com/1982/12/02/ga...g-formula.html

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                        • #13
                          two other suggestions, I used glue traps, EVERYWHERE, even taped to doors, also geckos LOVE roaches, in NYC they have a pet store than rents them by the week to clear roach problems.

                          Boric acid/borax=sugar does work, and would be good in combo with glue traps.
                          Honestly.... the image of that in my head made me go "AWESOME!"..... and then I remembered I am terribly strange.-Red dazes

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                          • #14
                            Glue traps are nasty. If you don't like finding bits of rodent, don't have them.

                            We use Sevin Dust for our insect woes. It works a treat and is less toxic than nearly any other option. The only proven danger is that you don't use it near waterfowl breeding grounds due to how it effects shell strength.

                            ^-.-^
                            Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden

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                            • #15
                              Quoth Andara Bledin View Post
                              Glue traps are nasty. If you don't like finding bits of rodent, don't have them.

                              ^-.-^
                              the glue traps for roaches have openings too small for rodents.(unless a mouse can crawl into a 1/4 inch round hole, as in about the size of a pencil)

                              and most are baited with roach pheromones which don't attract mice.(taping them flat to walls/doors also helps, I have never seen a mouse able to climb a metal door, they need a foothold, roaches don't)
                              Honestly.... the image of that in my head made me go "AWESOME!"..... and then I remembered I am terribly strange.-Red dazes

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