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  • Taking the Train

    As I write this, I'm on an Amtrak train on my way home from Brother's house after spending the holiday with him and his family, and getting to spend some time with Mom.

    It's the first time I've ever traveled by train. I've enjoyed the experience. Some things that stand out:

    Expense

    It's costing me quite a bit more than it would to drive. Part of that is due to the fact I'm coming home the day after Christmas; the trip up to Brother's was half what the trip home cost.

    Meals in the dining car are expensive. The food is microwaved and edible but nothing to write home about.

    Time

    Travel times for the trip are comparable for what it would take me to drive. The train gets up to about the speed limit on the highway most of the way. There are multiple stops, but they are brief. My first leg from High Point to DC was running an hour late to start, but I had a 3 hour layover at Union Station before continuing on to Baltimore, so it didn't matter. I made a booking error; in the future I won't book a trip with a long layaway like that.


    The train has been spot on with being on time for every other leg of the trip.

    Booking

    Booking was pretty easy on their website. You have a number of choices of stations to get on and off, and you need to do a little research on the best stations to use based on where you're going, and if you need to rent a car (I had EE drop me off and pick me up at home, the BWI station is 15 minutes from Brother's house, so he came and got me at that end). I could have saved money, but not time and hassle by renting a car at Union Station.

    Prices tend to climb as the date of departure approaches. Book like you would a plane.

    Comfort

    I found coach to be fairly comfortable. The seats are wider than on a plane, and there is more leg room, though it can still get tight for the very tall. Business class has even more legroom, more comfortable seats, and slightly wider. If you can afford it, business class is the way to go. I haven't tried a sleeper car; they're really expensive and tend to be booked up. I might try one on my next long trip, especially if my departure time is Oh Dark Hundred again.

    Power and WiFi

    The trains have free Wi Fi. You can't stream, and it can be a bit slow. I didn't have too much trouble posting to CS and Fratching, but couldn't get onto my online classroom (had hoped to grade some papers). But it kept me occupied.

    Each row has 2 outlets that are 3 prong outlets like you'd find at home. I charged my cellphone, and ran my laptop off the power adapter the whole trip. It was a nice feature, and it's available in coach.

    Access to the stations

    There's none of the TSA asshattery in taking a train. Oh, Union station ran continual propaganda on the widescreen TV about their security; I did see some cops and dogs about. But there are NO security lines to go through, no scanning of bags, no taking off your shoes. I walked into the station off the street . . . literally . . . in High Point, sat in the very nicely refurbished station (very classic and classy style, reminds me of an old time movie), got on the platform when the train pulled and and hopped on. Conductor scanned my ticket after it took off out of the station (the station manager did check that I had a ticket before I got on--took two seconds).

    It was quick and convenient as far as getting on went. You do still want to arrive early; if the train hits the station on time, it leaves on time. If your train leaves at 9:14 and you get there at 9:14 you are SOL. They board about 15 minutes before departure at the big stations. At the little ones you have to be on the platform before the train pulls in; they are stopped only for a few minutes before they pull out again. They don't wait for everyone to be seated; if you're not in a seat they still move.

    The conductors were pretty friendly though, and tried to keep people organized so everyone gets boarded and the train leaves on time.

    The cars were comfy warm. The bathrooms were large enough to move around in, not the closets that planes have. They were generally pretty clean. On the leg up to DC they got pretty dirty by the end and more and more people got on. Some asshat didn't flush and didn't put the lid down, and his overabundance of urine splashed all over the floor. On the trip home, though the bathrooms were clean and well maintained.

    The Ride

    The cars are fairly quiet. You can hear some click clack, but it's not obnoxious. You can hear the horn, but it's distant, not overwhelming. The ride is smoother than I expected. It wasn't difficult to walk down the aisle at all. Every once in a while you would hit a bump or curve that could throw you off balance, but not often.

    Passing another train at high speed is a startling experience.

    I had no trouble sleeping on the train, and slept much of the way up to Baltimore.

    Baggage

    There was no checked baggage on my trip. Two carry ons per person are allowed. Some ass hats brought full sized luggage, and the conductors don't really enforce size rules. One idiot kept putting his full sized bad in short end first and couldn't figure out why it wouldn't go in all the way until another guy took it from him and put it in right. It did make space for luggage competitive. I tucked my laptop bag under my seat and did fine with that.

    Some trains/trips will do checked luggage. You have to check to be sure; they'll tell you before you book if checked luggage is available.

    In short, I will do the train again. I enjoyed not having to take the effort to drive. The feel of the train was pleasurable, and the upsides outweighed the few downsides. If I need to make a trip that is further than I want to drive, then I'll check to see if a train is a possibility before taking a plane. Just not having to deal with the TSA makes that worthwhile.
    They say that God only gives us what we can handle. Apparently, God thinks I'm a bad ass.

  • #2
    I've done the train thing a few times, from back when the car we had we didn't trust to make the 100-mile trip up to visit family. It's a nice change if you either don't have the vehicle or want to avoid the stress of the drive.

    ^-.-^
    Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden

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    • #3
      Glad to hear you enjoyed the trip!

      A long-distance train ride is like a land cruise. Comfortable, relaxing, and when you get used to the motion, it's a great way to sleep.

      Oh - and the people on the train, especially in the dining car, are great to meet.

      <disclaimer - I've been around North America by train and across Canada a few times as well>

      B
      "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."- Albert Einstein.
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      • #4
        One of the best trips of my life was mostly by train. It was a 3 day/2 night trek from Cali to Texas. I didn't have a sleeper car myself but I ended up staying in a car with a friend. They were fairly comfy. I miss being able to take the train. There isn't a direct line from central Cali down to LA
        Now, if you smell the roses but it doesn't lift your spirits, you're either allergic to rose pollen or you need medical intervention. ~ Seshat

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        • #5
          Most of what you write is also applicable to European trains. The main differences are:

          1) Distances are usually shorter and speeds higher, so a multi-day trip is not usually required unless you are crossing the entire continent (rather than just one country). Some of the trains are *really* fast and thus compete directly with airlines on overall timing. In any case, not having to stop for a rest every few hours also factors into speed.

          2) Delays of as much as an hour or more are much less common over here, because passenger trains take priority over freight, rather than the other way around. Statistics are kept of how many trains are more than 10 minutes late (for long distance) or 5 minutes (for commuter). Force majeur can of course upset that occasionally.

          3) Because fuel prices are higher here, it tends to be cheaper to take the train than to drive by yourself, but it may be cheaper to drive a car full of people around. Then of course it's up to you whether the greater speed and comfort of the train is worth the money.

          4) Sometimes it is possible to take your car with you on the train, although if your destination is in a city the local public transport is often sufficient. In Finland this service is available on overnight sleeper trains between the three main southern cities and some of the northernmost stations on the network - this certainly saves the expense of hiring a car. It's common for people to take their cars to the edge of Lapland and then drive even further north, beyond the reach of the railway.

          In general, expect people over here to be much more familiar with train travel than Americans are.

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          • #6
            I generally prefer planes, myself, despite the hassle of TSA and the electronic device ban that goes in effect at times. But that said, my three trips somewhere via train have been relatively pleasant.

            The first time I took the train was to go visit my girlfriend for the first time (ours had been a relationship via the Internet), and coincidentally (I swear) it was Valentine's Day. Got to Boston, bought some flowers from a guy in the station, met her, had a very nice weekend with her, but ended up staying an extra day when a blizzard hit the East Coast. DC was hit with a couple feet of snow, and I left the next day as it was hitting Boston.

            The train was SRO until we got to New York, when it emptied out. I'd been lucky enough to find a seat, which I stayed in the whole way until New York, as I didn't want to lose my seat. Then I had to find a way to get home once I got to DC, since the Metro wasn't running to above-ground stations, and my folks couldn't come to get me if it had been (because of the aforementioned couple of feet of snow in our driveway).

            The third time was again due to a blizzard. I'd gone to visit the GF again, but my flight ended up getting canceled because of the weather. So she picked me up, took me back to her place, where we booked me a seat on a train to DC. Fortunately, this time I was able to get picked up at home.

            All in all, the trips on the trains were okay, but I preferred the shorter travel times for planes.
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            • #7
              Re: Shorter travel times for planes - Does that include the time you have to get there early to wait in line, and wait in another line, then get felt up or ogled by TSA, then wait in a lobby before waiting in another line?

              I'm a fan of being in motion, so I actually really like flying, particularly in smaller aircraft. The 6-seater I went up in once was awesome. But trains and boats are close behind.

              ^-.-^
              Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden

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              • #8
                I've always loved train travel. It's a great way to be able to sit back and really see the country as you go through it -- or snooze your way through a couple of hours' travel. Even the "peasant" seats are more comfortable than the seats on planes. First-class has the benefit of better food, but standard class has the benefit that -- except at peak times of the year, like Christmas -- the cars are usually not filled and you can often spread out over both your seat and the one next to you (business class is almost always fully booked). And best of all, I don't worry that it's going to fall out of the sky, LOL. (Ironically, I've never been on a plane that I thought was actually going to crash, but one of the last times I took the train it hit a pickup and derailed).

                Recent accusations by a friend -- that I love train travel because I keep hoping the train will stop at Hogwarts -- are total nonsense. Really. I swear it.

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                • #9
                  You really need to select the best date for travel.

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                  Rapscallion

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                  • #10
                    Thanks for the write-up Sapphire.

                    And Raps, I REALLY don't want to know how you would stumble upon such an event. I'm going to tell myself that googling 'trains,' 'US,' and 'moonLIGHT' for some romantic escapade brought it to your attention and leave it at that.

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                    • #11
                      I tend to travel by train a lot, Fiancé is a conductor for the local network so I benefit by being able to travel with him at low cost. I love hearing him talk to his Co workers about this and that and hearing all the railway gossip. Oh and when we get married I'll get a pass so that I can travel for free on the network he works for.

                      But yes booking in advance is a good thing even in this country it can mean the difference of a £100. I could travel today from my city to London for about £110, book in advance and it could be as low as £19 but you have to be flexible and know when you are travelling at least six weeks in advance.
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                      • #12
                        For the past three years I have taken a major train trip. In my first year it was Ann Arbor-Chicago-Seattle-Emeryville-Chicago-Ann Arbor. In my second year, it was Ann Arbor-Chicago-Denver-Emeryville-LA-Chicago. This year it was Ann Arbor-Chicago-DC-NY-Chicago-Ann Arbor (going east from here on train is a chore). The Ann Arbor to Chicago legs are nothing to write home about. It's a cafe car with microwaved food and stuff. The distance legs are something else though. The dining car is pretty awesome (Not sure if cooked or microwaved but the food is tasty). The leg room is outstanding (way more than a plane or the commuter train). The people you meet are pretty friendly for the most part.

                        Security for a train is pretty pointless because if someone wants to blow up a train they don't actually have to be on the train. And honestly, I'd prefer dogs to some machine anyway.

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                        • #13
                          While it has been years since I've been on a train other than a subway/metro/within the city type of thing, I do remember train trips rather fondly. And there are certain benefits to them over driving. Such as sleeping, eating in a relaxed way, being able to drink alcohol, reading, working/playing on the computer, getting work done, etc. Also, it is far less fatiguing on the body, both physically and mentally, than driving the same distance. And I say this as a seasoned road warrior who actually likes road trips and driving.

                          I usually fly these days, but then I am usually heading from Florida to Arizona, which brings up the drawback for trains: on longer trips, the time factor involved definitely favors planes over trains. And the logistics, too, as I just found out doing research for this particular post.

                          If, for example, I were to fly from Miami to Phoenix, it would be about an 8 hour trip. This does not count, of course, the time it takes to get through security (say for the sake or argument 2 hours, since they always advise you to be there 2 hours early), plus the time it would take to get TO Miami from Key West (rounding up to 4 hours to leave room for unforseen traffic or such), plus the time it takes to retrieve the baggage and get out of the Phoenix airport and to the part of the Valley you want to be at (say an hour), and you have a total trip of about 15 hours or so. Of course, one advantage to this method is, for a few more dollars (it varies from trip to trip and time to time), I could just fly right out of Key West to Miami, Fort Lauderdale, or Atlanta, among others, and from there straight to Phoenix, cutting down on both the time to get to the Miami (or other) airport, as well as cutting down on the getting-through-security time, as at Key West International, you really only need to be there an hour before your scheduled departure time. (Small airport.) So let's say 12-15 hours, ballpark figure. Price for such a trip on February 20, 2013 would be $384 from Miami, $463 if I just flew out of Key West. And that would be a round trip ticket, returning on February 27, 2013.

                          By contrast, the train trip would cost me $286. Cheaper, sure, but that is only one way. Presumably the return trip would double the cost. And the big difference is, of course, the time: 57 hours. Yep, over two days to do this trip by train. And it gets even worse. Not only could I not start my trip in Key West (trains do not come down the Keys), but according to the Amtrak booking site, I would have to go from Miami to Washington, D.C., from DC to Chicago, and from Chicago to Phoenix. Or more exactly, to Maricopa, AZ, which is 30 miles south of Phoenix. To quote the Amtrak site, "Passengers destined for Phoenix must arrange their own transportation from Maricopa." For those not familiar with the area, Maricopa is what one typically thinks of when one thinks of a desert town: there ain't much there, and there ain't much to do there. I know, having been there a couple of times. Phoenix it ain't.

                          Generally I think trains are better for traveling in the East and Midwest of the U.S., and in Europe. Going West? Not so much.

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                          • #14
                            I'd love to do a Great Plains crossing on a train. I've been over them in the air a few times and it might be nice to actually get to see them for a change.

                            ^-.-^
                            Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden

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                            • #15
                              Quoth Andara Bledin View Post
                              I'd love to do a Great Plains crossing on a train. I've been over them in the air a few times and it might be nice to actually get to see them for a change.

                              ^-.-^
                              If you're going to do one distance train trip in your life, I would certainly recommend the Emeryville to Denver route. Goes through the Sierra Nevadas and the Rockies. Utah isn't much to write home about but it was pretty cool to me as a non-desert dwelling person.

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