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  • #31
    Of course the OEMs don't want that; when people find out that almost everything is standard they won't pay through the nose for parts.

    I like the current Compaq cases; fairly easy to open (although not as easy as mine--just remove the thumbscrews, flip up the latch on the face and away you go).

    The old 286 cases...now those are a pain (before I moved back here, I was halfway through gutting one for a project).
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    • #32
      ha ha, the 286/386 compaq cases. Woot what a memory, the only case that was permanently "unscrewed". But I will say this, those old compaq cases were almost indestructible. Steel frames, some even had steel sheets and not tin like most others did. Weight more than the monitors which was quite a feat considering in those days monitors weren't lightweight either.
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      • #33
        I've got an HP case that's a royal pain to work in. Oh sure, it's easy to get off, but only one side of the thing comes off. There's two huge thumb screws in the back that you loosen, then grip a built in handle and pull back. The whole side just slides away in one big piece.

        Sure, it sounds nice, but when you look in there and realise that there's no earthly way you're going to reach some of the inner workings of the thing you come to realise that HP engineers are sadists.
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        • #34
          Quoth repsac View Post
          .....HP engineers are sadists.
          They learned from the best, Compaq.
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          • #35
            I don't know. If you look inside a Pavilion.....

            You have to dismantle the entire PC to add RAM, because the structural supports for the power supply lies directly above half of the stick slots.

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            • #36
              I've had both Compaq and HP the same way. HP more often once they took over Compaq.
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              • #37
                Quoth technical.angel View Post
                I don't know. If you look inside a Pavilion.....

                You have to dismantle the entire PC to add RAM, because the structural supports for the power supply lies directly above half of the stick slots.

                Jenni
                Must only be the newer pavillions. I got an HP Pavillion in 1999, and I can't count how many times the RAM has been switched in and out of that machine. We have 5 computers for the 4 people in the house, and the HP is the easiest, reliable machine to test RAM in.
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                • #38
                  Or maybe newer... my Pavilion was purchased in 2000.

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                  • #39
                    Has anyone ever worked on a DEC (Digital Equipment Corp) machine? We had one at work, and it was a POS. The motherboard in that thing was 18" square...and was in two halvest that plugged into each other. I'm still trying to figure out why their engineers thought that was a good idea
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                    • #40
                      Everything is a good idea to an engineer.
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                      • #41
                        Quoth protege View Post
                        Has anyone ever worked on a DEC (Digital Equipment Corp) machine? We had one at work, and it was a POS. The motherboard in that thing was 18" square...and was in two halvest that plugged into each other. I'm still trying to figure out why their engineers thought that was a good idea
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