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    These are all the same couple. We shall call them SH (sucky husband) and SW (sucky wife). The other players are AGSM (Awesome guest service manager) and CW (coworker... you knew that though).

    SH comes up to the desk.
    SH: I earned more than 100 points today, I should have gotten a dollar off of gas, not just 50cents off.
    Me: I can look into that, can I see your players card please.
    He hands me his card, and I notice that his dollar off has already been redeemed this month, and the promotion that is mailed out explicitly states, in bold letters, may only be redeemed once.
    Me: I'm sorry sir, but it looks like your dollar off coupon was already redeemed this month. It looks like the person who gave you this did it as a courtesy since you did have so much play today. (Note, definitely not in high roller territory, by courtesy I mean that we made enough that we can afford to give you a piddly discount to get rid of you and move onto the next customer).
    SH: Fine, well, I have over 300 points, so I should be able to get $30 bonus cash. (In fairness, this was a legit point, and it was our mistake that it wasn't put into his account).
    Me: Okay, I will have to have a supervisor manually put that in, it will take just a moment.
    I pick up the phone, call the supervisor, she comes over.
    AGSM: Okay sir, I understand that you were supposed to receive $30 bonus cash for having earned 300 points, it will take just a moment for me to get that processed.
    SH: Fine, whatever, and I want my dollar off per gallon too.
    AGSM: I'm sorry sir, but looking into your account you have already redeemed that offer, and it does say on the coupon that it can only be redeemed once.
    SH: No it doesn't, it just says earn 100 points in a day and get a dollar off gas.
    AGSM: (pulling out the sample coupons we keep at the desk) Sir, it says right beneath that "One redemption only."
    SH: Well, that is not what they told me.
    AGSM: Who told you that?
    SH: A players club employee at the cashiers cage.
    AGSM: We don't have players club employees at the cashiers cage... the cashiers are permitted to help with basic players club transactions, but they are not players club employees... if you read the terms and conditions on the card it does say that only official communication from the players club is binding. And it looks like they went beyond what they were supposed to do as it was by giving you an additional discount when technically it is supposed to be an either or, not both.
    SH storms off with his $30 grumbling about how unreasonable we are. 5 minutes later he comes back demanding another discount voucher because he lost his... the discount voucher is for a third party, so we can't simply reprint it like we do our inhouse offers...
    Me: I'm sorry sir, but those offers cannot be reprinted. The best I can do is have a supervisor void out the voucher you were given so no one else can use it and give you the maximum cash value instead.
    SH: Well, I have a 25 gallon tank, so that should be $12.50.
    Me: The maximum cash value is $5, the coupon is 50 cents off per gallon for only the first ten gallons.
    SH: It doesn't say that anywhere on the coupon!
    Me: *points to it on the coupon*
    SH: That's deceptive, can you get a supervisor.
    Me: Sure thing.
    I call AGSM again, she comes over, tells the guest the same thing I did, that we can void out the voucher (which I don't think he liked to hear, me thinks he had the voucher in his pocket) and pay him the maximum cash value, which is $5.

    So far, the wife has been mostly silent. But now, she wants to check out because the room is in her name. The AGSM has already left to take care of a problem at a table.
    Me: Okay, I see it is a comped room. There is an $11 movie charge, do you want that to go onto the American Express you gave at check in?
    SW: No, I want you to comp it for all the problems we've had today. Besides, we've gambled over $4000 here, if you can't afford to give us a dollar off gas, you should at least give us a stupid movie.
    Me: I'll see if my supervisor will approve it.
    I call AGSM again.
    Me: Hey, it's Smiley again, SW wants to know if we can comp the movie on her room, she says she's gambled $4000 today.
    AGSM: Does her play history back that up.
    Me: Yes, coin in $4000, coin out $5500.
    AGSM: Wait, she is up $1500 and she wants a comp on top of the free room and offers that she wasn't supposed to get... please tell her to screw herself as politely as you can, we've given them enough that we weren't supposed to today.
    Me: Yes ma'am, understood
    I hang up the phone and turn back to SW
    Me: I'm sorry, but my supervisor is not going to approve the comp.
    SW: Why the hell not! With all the money we spend here they should gladly comp us $11, it's not as if you can't afford it.
    Me: I'm sorry, but we've already comped the room, we've already bent over backwards by giving you offers that you technically weren't eligible for, we're not going to do more than that. We strive to offer the best service possible, but frankly, comping a movie comes out of the hotel budget, not the casinos, and we can't stay in business by giving away everything.
    SW: You seriously can't afford to comp an $11 movie when I've spent $4000 here?
    Me: I'd say considering that you are walking out of here with at least $5500 that we've given you a lot more than we do our average customer.
    With that SW and SH storm out of the building swear to never come back
    Me:
    CW finally pops his head out of the back office.
    CW: Thank God they're gone... while you were on break they were bitching to me that they felt they deserved to be upgraded to a grand suite.
    Me: On $4000 coin in, you've got to be joking.
    CW: No, and they weren't amused when I told them that all the grand suites were occupied tonight by people who averaged $50k plus coin in.
    Me: Ain't perspective grand.

    Side story/trend
    This kind of is also a cursing out coworkers... but seriously security guard, when I'm calling you to help a guest with his lock that they can't get to work, and you ask why I'm not calling engineering, the answer is obvious, first, engineering isn't here at 2am, and second, I'm trying to discreetly convey the fact that the problem is that the guest is too drunk to handle the key and not actually a problem with the lock.

    Side story/trend 2
    I don't care how drunk you are, our 24 hour deli only has one employee, I don't care how drunk you are, we aren't going to magically get more employees working there so that they have time to deliver to your room.

    Related note
    Our deli is 24/7... just because you don't like deli food doesn't mean that we "never have any restaurants open".
    Yeah, had a guy just chew me out about how it was false advertising to say we have a 24 hour restaurant when all we have is a deli... hate to break it to you, but a deli is a type of restaurant, just because it isn't a Denny's or some other place that will serve you overly greesy overpriced food doesnt mean that it isn't a restaurant.
    If you wish to find meaning, listen to the music not the song

  • #2
    I've never understood how people like SH and SW can honestly live with themselves on a daily basis. Don't get me wrong, I've complained at places I've stayed before (for honest, real, major issues that happened), but never had I gone into a restaurant, hotel, or other establishment with the thought in mind of "I'll complain so I can get something for free." The first time I ever complained about bad food and got it comped, I was so embarrassed that they would do this that I tried to convince them to charge the replacement meal they gave (they wouldn't, but seemed genuinely surprised that I cared so much).

    It really has killed any hopes I have for humanity that there are so many people out there who just don't give a damn. I just imagine them sitting at home, alone, in a neighborhood that despises them, and they simply can't understand why. That may be uncharitable of me, but screw it, those types of people just enrage me...
    "That's too bad. Hospitals aren't fun to fight through."
    "What IS fun to fight through?"
    "Gardens. Electronics shops. Antique stores, but only if they're classy."

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    • #3
      Quoth KhirasHY View Post
      I've never understood how people like SH and SW can honestly live with themselves on a daily basis.
      It's an entitlement mentality. Casinos are known for giving away stuff to their best customers... a lot of people though have an over inflated view of how important they are. Someone who gambles $4000 is indeed a good customer, it is a lot better than my $50 a week, the vast majority of which is free play (okay, so all of it is free play), but they fail to see perspective. Just because $4000 is a lot of money to them, doesn't mean that they are even close to the big leagues.
      Our true high rollers know that they don't have to ask for a comp, it will be offered to them. The saying in some places "if you have to ask, you can't afford it" rings true in the casino, except it's "if you have to ask, you haven't earned it."
      It doesn't help that our marketing revolves a lot around giving out as many free and discounted rooms as we can afford so we get more people on the casino floor... so a lot of people come in thinking "I got a free room, I must be important"... no, you got a free room because we make more money off of you gambling than off of you staying.
      If you wish to find meaning, listen to the music not the song

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      • #4
        Even so...I honestly wonder if people like that are some secret experiment on us. See how long we abide by it before we start setting fires. Does that make me crazy?

        Incidentally, I would KILL to be good enough at Poker to qualify as a high roller. I do pretty damn well for myself, but I'm nowhere near WSOP levels...some day...
        "That's too bad. Hospitals aren't fun to fight through."
        "What IS fun to fight through?"
        "Gardens. Electronics shops. Antique stores, but only if they're classy."

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        • #5
          I'm pretty good at Pai Gow Poker, and have had good streaks at Blackjack, and I seem to be good at throwing dice (Silver Legacy still probably hates me... I had a 45 minute run there once without rolling out... yeah, that cost them a pretty penny).
          Mostly what I do though is video poker or slots, because, well video poker and slots is cheap. I will indulge myself in a high limit progressive slot every once in a while (with Megabucks being my poison of choice... though that machine pissed me off today, I got triple bar, triple bar, triple pay... just below the pay line... that would have been a $270 payout if it had lined up on the pay line, instead I got jack shit).
          If you wish to find meaning, listen to the music not the song

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          • #6
            I was once given a comp of a expensive steak/seafood dinner cause I was just being quiet and not being rude to the dealer. When another player started yelling at me for not talking or joining in on the conversation I still said nothing. It wasn't till I was given the meal and they were asked to leave that the dealer and I revealed that I wasn't speaking cause I had laryngitis at the time and couldn't.

            As for those two...damn do they help in giving bad names to low level players.

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            • #7
              Quoth KhirasHY View Post
              I've never understood how people like SH and SW can honestly live with themselves
              The really sad thing is that they are often proud of themselves, and will brag about how they got over on the system to others. And twenty years ago I would have been flabbergasted at smiley's SH and SW, but now I just feel sorry for every employee they run into, 'cause you know they try this kind of thing everywhere.

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              • #8
                Anybody who can afford to spend $4000 gambling can afford an $11 movie and full-price gas. Just sayin'.
                When you start at zero, everything's progress.

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                • #9
                  What Mr Great Northwoods said.

                  It's entitlement, like smiley said, though sometimes it just goes beyond money or power. Some people are just raised to think they are special. Some people are used to getting what they want by complaining.

                  On a very low level, but still very pertinent, I have had so many coworkers throughout my years at the ShitHole that have that mindset. Some of them have been babied or spoon-fed compliments/ego boosts (I believe originally to get some of them to work harder and strive more), and over time, they've become so full of themselves that they truly believe they are always right, everyone else is "stupid" or "rude", and some of them even get custom jobs at work and places they are never put so they don't throw fits.

                  My Whiney Bitch ex bf was one of the longest lasting people on our old shift over the years. The boss and shift lead made him feel like he was just super special, and he grew to think that he was beyond everyone else's skill levels and to this day, even though he's extremely introverted and awkward, he has no problem trying to go around and find mistakes or point them out to others, in a nitpicking fashion.

                  I'm so used to this kind of attitude, it rarely surprises me anymore. These are the first people, though, at the same time, to break down and honestly wonder why no one likes them.
                  You really need to see a neurologist. - Wagegoth

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                  • #10
                    Quoth smileyeagle1021 View Post
                    Someone who gambles $4000 is indeed a good customer, it is a lot better than my $50 a week, the vast majority of which is free play (okay, so all of it is free play), .
                    I would make a great casino employee, I don't gamble and one of the few times I did bother to gamble at Foxwoods, I played for over an hour without losing one hand [regular low stakes blackjack]

                    Sort of like Quigly, I never said I *couldn't* gamble, I just normally *don't* gamble. There is a big difference.
                    EVE Online: 99% of the time you sit around waiting for something to happen, but that 1% of action is what hooks people like crack, you don't get interviewed by the BBC for a WoW raid.

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                    • #11
                      You know you are a good customer when the casino owner sends his private BBJ from Vegas to Japan to pick you up. The high roller Japanese always tipped us well. They also loved coming through in winter when the Norther Lights were nice and bright.

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                      • #12
                        Quoth Aethian View Post
                        When another player started yelling at me for not talking or joining in on the conversation I still said nothing.
                        I've never understood that either...when I hit a casino, I do so to play Texas Hold 'Em exclusively, but I'm not really a conversational player. I'll tell the occasional joke, and reply (sometimes, not always) when talked to, but most of the time I just focus on my game and the other players and stay silent. A lot of the regulars at my local place of choice are the same, but occasionally some chatterbox shows up and talks it up, but I've never had someone get mad at me for being a silent type.

                        They always seem to lose the most money at the table too...for some reason, talking and gambling don't mix well in Poker

                        Edit: Perfect example...a regular at my casino is the husband of one of the dealers. I can never remember his name, but we call him "The Ambassador" since that's what his name shows up as on his player's card. Everyone knows him...he's actually impossible not to like. Very cheerful, cordial, occasionally too forward, but he's pleasant enough that he's entertaining. His wife once told me the story of his casino visits:

                        He shows up maybe every 2-3 months when he gets bored...goes up about $400 at the $1-$2 tables, then starts losing cash hand over fist. Why? Because people finally realizes that he's full of crap and just calls/raises randomly, so if you call him, odds are you have the winning hand She flat out mentioned that he's a horrible player, but people lose to him a lot at first since he seems so confident.

                        He never gets mad if you don't talk to him though. Nice guy, I almost feel bad about robbing him blind every time I see him
                        Last edited by KhirasHY; 04-08-2013, 05:40 AM.
                        "That's too bad. Hospitals aren't fun to fight through."
                        "What IS fun to fight through?"
                        "Gardens. Electronics shops. Antique stores, but only if they're classy."

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                        • #13
                          Quoth KhirasHY View Post
                          He never gets mad if you don't talk to him though. Nice guy, I almost feel bad about robbing him blind every time I see him
                          If he's sensible about it, he's spending out of his entertainment budget. So don't. Just be part of his entertainment.

                          (And I don't mean you should be talking or socialising - he obviously gets entertainment out of gambling. So go ahead and gamble with him.)


                          I gamble VERY rarely, and when I do it's always out of the entertainment budget. Win or lose, I had fun daydreaming. That's what I spent the money on - the chance to daydream about what might be.
                          Seshat's self-help guide:
                          1. Would you rather be right, or get the result you want?
                          2. If you're consistently getting results you don't want, change what you do.
                          3. Deal with the situation you have now, however it occurred.
                          4. Accept the consequences of your decisions.

                          "All I want is a pretty girl, a decent meal, and the right to shoot lightning at fools." - Anders, Dragon Age.

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                          • #14
                            What a thoughtless couple! I've raised far less of a stink on major issues! (Like the time when I was eating soup in a restaurant and ended up nearly swallowing a chip of porcelain that had broken off from a bowl. Thank god I caught it in time, but I still got a painful scratch on the roof of my mouth. My meal was comped for that, mostly because my mom and I were understanding enough to know it was a simple accident.)

                            But really they were walking out with $1000 profit, they really wanted to push their luck further?
                            Some people just need a high five...

                            In the face with the back of a chair....

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                            • #15
                              Quoth smileyeagle1021 View Post
                              I'm pretty good at Pai Gow Poker, and have had good streaks at Blackjack, and I seem to be good at throwing dice (Silver Legacy still probably hates me... I had a 45 minute run there once without rolling out... yeah, that cost them a pretty penny).
                              Mostly what I do though is video poker or slots, because, well video poker and slots is cheap. I will indulge myself in a high limit progressive slot every once in a while (with Megabucks being my poison of choice... though that machine pissed me off today, I got triple bar, triple bar, triple pay... just below the pay line... that would have been a $270 payout if it had lined up on the pay line, instead I got jack shit).
                              I wish I actualy knew the differences between the different kinds of poker. I love poker, not sure what kind I play though, since it's just me and my friends, with no betting or anything. I can't afford to gamble more than a few dollars every once in a while, but I love casino games. I must say, when I visited Vegas, I was rather upset the casinos wouldn't let me in! Of course I was 5, so that's understandable.

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