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I support the notion of raising your price if he contacts you again. "Yes sir, my previous quote was $35. That was before you insulted me. I have decided that I don't really want the job. The additional amount is what it will take to make me change my mind."
Then, every time he complains, raise the price by $5 or so. "I can keep this up all day, sir."
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Quoth Argabarga View Post"Cost of turning screw, $0.01. Cost of knowing which screw needs turned, $499.99"
Quoth Seshat View PostDon't tell them how long it takes you. He has no need to know that.
Seraph's already wasted too much time on this bozo.
In the back of my mind is Seraph agreeing:
"Sure, I'll send you ten dollars worth of pop-up."
And then sending the bare-bones code for one, sans graphics or text.
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Quoth PepperElf View PostHe gets this!
Quoth Seshat View PostDon't tell them how long it takes you. He has no need to know that.
Also, your price includes materials, depreciation on equipment, administrative costs, and a whole lot of extras. Ten dollars for an ad would probably COST you to produce it.By popular request....I am now officially the Enemy of Normalcy.
"What is unobtainium? To Seraph, it's a normal client. :P" -- Observant Friend
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Quoth Seraph View PostExactly, as I keep telling my clients, its not the time, it's the cost of all the experience, and what I have to pay for in expenses.I'm trying to see things from your point of view, but I can't get my head that far up my keister!
Who is John Galt?
-Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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Quoth Seraph View PostSeraph's nice original post...
I think that's very, very reasonable as far as pricing goes.
I don't think the guy understands what kind of talent and skill goes into something like that. If he thinks it's easy, and wants to pay $10 for it, let him open up Paint and try to make his own darn banner! OR heck, let him try to go online and find standard, royalty-free imagery...he won't be able to do it.
And yeah, you're absolutely right that the $10 is insulting.
I'd considered doing something like this on the side, myself, but I don't know how I'd handle the haggling other than "this is the price...take it or leave it."Skilled programmers aren't cheap. Cheap programmers aren't skilled.
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Quoth Seraph View PostExactly, as I keep telling my clients, its not the time, it's the cost of all the experience, and what I have to pay for in expenses.
If I were commissioning for a graphic, I would certainly want the artist/designer to take their time with it. But I think it's reasonable not to have to wait an insane amount of time to get it, either.
That said, you sound like a responsible person who would say, "Ok, I'm a little busy right now, this will take me about 3 hours to do, and you'll get it in 2 weeks because I have other orders ahead of yours."Skilled programmers aren't cheap. Cheap programmers aren't skilled.
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There's a difference though, between "How long is the turnaround for this project?" and "How long will it take you to make this item, because that's how I'm going to base your pay."By popular request....I am now officially the Enemy of Normalcy.
"What is unobtainium? To Seraph, it's a normal client. :P" -- Observant Friend
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