Just HOW did you get through nursing school?

[AccountingDrone]

Me: It probably also says in her file that my wife had her tubes tied at your hospital. You might want to ask a doctor from another hospital what that means for your chances for a return visit.

EDIT:
I suddenly remember why I also had a vasectomy. With an outpaitent office of a different hospital.

Um, I would love to point out that I had my first tubal ligation done at Strong Memorial Hospital in 1983, and my tubes *removed and cauterized* at Yale-New Haven in 1996.

See, the Navy back then had this habit of giving every female that walked in a pregnancy test ... and I got this phone call a day after I did a walk in appointment for strep throat ... and the first words out of my mouth to the poor little lab tech guy were [and I quote] You have got to be fing kidding me, I had my fing tubes tied more than 10 years ago.

I had a proteus infection postoperatively that popped the scar and band on the left tube, and since I never had fertility problems, the obvious happened. I would personally prefer to be one of the *other* type of 1 percent ... money rather than pregnant

[Sapphire Silk]

One of the doctors yesterday INSISTED he needed a pregnancy test on a lesbian. "But she has an STD!" Yes, lesbians can get those too, but they generally don't get pregnant.

Sexual orientation is not enough to get you a bye on a pregnancy test. Some lesbians decide to have sex with men in order to get pregnant, but don't inform their partners (I've seen it happen), or are actually bi and don't tell their partner (because they're cheating on the female partner with a male partner) or some other such issue pops up.

If you're female, of childbearing age, and you have all your parts, you need a pregnancy test.

[Raveni]

I had a proteus infection postoperatively that popped the scar and band on the left tube, and since I never had fertility problems, the obvious happened. I would personally prefer to be one of the *other* type of 1 percent ... money rather than pregnant

Again, I'll chaulk this up to "why I had no problem being laid out upside-down (so that the blood would go to my head) on a table in front of a class of med students and had a vesactomy even though my wife had her tubes tied"

[fireheart]

Sadly, there's one justification there...if it comes up "positive" that's a marker for a type of cancer. Quick and dirty test...

Um, generally for MTF transsexuals, the new "vagina" is made from skin taken from other areas of the body. Sometimes it's the skin from the existing genitalia, other times it's skin taken from the hips, thighs or colon.

A Pap Smear checks for cervical cancer, not for any other forms of cancer. There is an adaption of it called an anal Pap Smear, typically used if you've had anal sex. So that would be the ONLY "pap" smear that a MTF transsexual would've needed. A transsexual does not have a cervix (unless they're FTM and chose to keep it).

[kpzra]

Um, generally for MTF transsexuals, the new "vagina" is made from skin taken from other areas of the body. Sometimes it's the skin from the existing genitalia, other times it's skin taken from the hips, thighs or colon.

A Pap Smear checks for cervical cancer, not for any other forms of cancer. There is an adaption of it called an anal Pap Smear, typically used if you've had anal sex. So that would be the ONLY "pap" smear that a MTF transsexual would've needed. A transsexual does not have a cervix (unless they're FTM and chose to keep it).

They were talking about a pregnancy test, not a Pap smear

[Der Cute]

Huh. I went into the ER a few years ago for an acute gallbladder test. That damn thing was on fire. The ER doc said we need a pregnancy test for you. I was like "wtf?" Because I had not had sex for over 6 months, and by then I'd know. My cycles were fine. The doc kind of hinted that if I didn't do the pregnancy test, I'd not be helped.

And after I peed in the cup, Nursing Student et al comes in with a stick in the cup saying "Negative!"
All I was thinking is "jesus don't you think I know my own damn body? I can recite all my meds and the dosages and what they're all for! And all my surgeries/issues and such, don'tcha think I'd know!!!!"

BTW the painkiller above morphine is the one that worked. Oh. And the operating table was more of a slab, like, 2' or 30" wide. Cold. I passed out happily.

[BlaqueKatt]

The ER doc said we need a pregnancy test for you. I was like "wtf?" Because I had not had sex for over 6 months, and by then I'd know.
All I was thinking is "jesus don't you think I know my own damn body?

you may know your body, but the ER doc doesn't know you, and has likely run into at least one or two "I've never had sex in my life!" females that are in active labor coming in for treatment of a "stomach ache"*. Also there are rare forms of cancer that will cause a positive pregnancy test, and those don't require sexual activity to develop. If you were pregnant or had one of those types of cancer, and the ER doc didn't have a negative test on file, anything going wrong would be his fault, as it would be considered medically negligent.

*seriously they've had enough women do this that there's a show about it.

[dragon_wings]

you may know your body, but the ER doc doesn't know you, and has likely run into at least one or two "I've never had sex in my life!" females that are in active labor coming in for treatment of a "stomach ache"*.

*seriously they've had enough women do this that there's a show about it.

Are you referring to the show 'I didn't know I was pregnant'?

[Aethian]

Are you referring to the show 'I didn't know I was pregnant'?

My mom could have been on there... Found out that she was pregnant while in labor. Got that stopped and I still came 29 days later at 12 weeks early.

[Seshat]

My usual answer used to be 'only if the IUD has failed'.

For whatever reason, it never failed to get a laugh. Especially when I could tell them what type, and how long it had been in for, and when I'd last checked for the strings.

Having 'listened' to this forum, I now get the idea that the laugh was a kind of 'thank god we finally have one who knows how to look after herself'.

[Sapphire Silk]

And after I peed in the cup, Nursing Student et al comes in with a stick in the cup saying "Negative!"
All I was thinking is "jesus don't you think I know my own damn body? I can recite all my meds and the dosages and what they're all for! And all my surgeries/issues and such, don'tcha think I'd know!!!!"

BTW the painkiller above morphine is the one that worked. Oh. And the operating table was more of a slab, like, 2' or 30" wide. Cold. I passed out happily.

Glad you're feeling better. I had gallbladder problems as well; boy it hurt.

But the bottom line is, I can never, ever, ever take a woman's word for it that she is not pregnant.

Sometimes women lie.

Sometimes their BC fails.

Whatever, the reason, it's just too risky. No doc or nurse will take that chance. Sorry.

Case in point:

I once cared for a morbidly obese woman who came into our ER in the middle of the night with abdominal pain, severe, that woke her in the middle of the night. As part of the physical exam, the ER doc did a pelvic exam. Patient assured us she was not pregnant, and she was in such severe pain the doc delayed the pregnancy test to do the physical exam.

That's when he felt the contractions. When he looked into the vagina he gasped and said, "She's 5 cm dilated and 75% effaced."

Patient says, "I'm not pregnant. I'm just fat."

Doc: Ma'am, you are pregnant and you are in labor. We're transferring you to L&D.

So I go to call the BF. He says, "She's not pregnant, she's just fat."

Two hours later she delivered a healthy baby boy.

[LillFilly]

Wow, someone had to go right by the book, didn't they!?

[Der Cute]

Ok,ok ok. I can see why a pg test is protocol. Yes, people will lie cheat and steal from doctors. Am I an anomaly, going in for acute gallbladder, knowing what's happening and my body? And o m g that pain was intense. Very intense. I think it's equal to long term tooth pain. Both suck.

Would I still have to have a pg test now? I've been sterilized/tubes tied. I have the scars for it Would my word be enough? I'll just come in with a nun/habit

BTW the gallbladder has been removed and is now somewhere else.

[NotAlBundy]

Are you referring to the show 'I didn't know I was pregnant'?

This is seriously one of the scariest shows on television.

Half of the cases are scary because the women/girls should have known they were at risk to get pregnant... it makes me sad to see how poorly educated women are in regards to their bodies.

The other half are scary because they are cases where yes, the woman was sexually active, but had no symptoms of being pregnant until she went into labor. Terrifies me!

[kpzra]

It's a CYA for them. If they hadn't given one and had a medication administered that caused birth defects they could be sued. It's a test that takes a few minutes but can have life long effect. I know what is going on with my body, but I also have no problem taking a test when asked. Just don't yell at me when I tell you to expect blood in it and there is some there...lol

Even if you have had your tubes tied they will probably do one as that surgery is not 100%.