Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

These people appreciate the work it takes to find an obit

Collapse
This topic is closed.
X
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • These people appreciate the work it takes to find an obit

    Please don't resubmit your requests

    People requests articles and obituaries from our library all the time, since we have the local and some national newspapers.

    When people go to our website and fill out the form for a request, the instructions say: You should get a response to your e-mail within 48-72 hours, excluding weekends and holidays. Please note that some requests may require additional research time. If you are working against a deadline, you may get a faster response by visiting or calling your local library or by calling...

    So, July 22 was a Thur. some guy submit a request for an obit. One problem is he does't give exact date of death. So that requires on our part "additional research time." Either we look it up in ancestory.com or we have to request from another dept. to look up on the Texas Death Roll the date of death.

    My dept. has 4 people working on articles/obit requests.

    July 26, the same guy resends his request. He doesn't even bother to say in his request, "I requested this on July 22...." And I guess he doesn't bother to read that weekends are excluded. But he does the math to know that 72 hours is 3 days. So three days, not counting weekends, from July 22 to July 26, equals 3 days. So I guess he is either imaging the worst (we are wiping our butts with his request) or the best (it got lost) At least say you are resubmitting your request.

    I find his resubmitted request on July 26, Monday. I see latter another cw worked on the first request and sent a response July 27. Yesterday I finally get to the request. I go to google docs to enter the info on the work-in-progress, and for the one time this redundancy helps out, I see that someone already did this request.

    So I was this-close to redoing this stupid obit. That takes up at least 20 min. of time.

    They're dead, what's the rush?
    A woman submits a request, on July 16, for an obit of her sister, whose date of death is Nov. 4, 1969*. Added to her request: A status courtesy call is asked for since I would like to have this information promptly especially since this person was my sister.
    An email address is included in the request, so why want us to phone? You never check your email? Are you sitting by the phone 24/7? And a phone call will cost us. No obit was found. I wasn't the one doing the request so I don't know if the person was called, but she was emailed.

    Today I find in the inbox a request, submitted by the first person's daughter: I'm so sorry. I believe my mother got it wrong. My Aunt xxxx died on November 10, 1967.

    Ah crud. We really should charge people for doing the research, even if we don't find an article and/or obit. You know how much we do charge when we find something? $2 a citation and $1 a page.

    I did find an obit, and I'm thinking the worse of the person, like "you don't even remember your sister's date of death?" Granted, could be the person was too young to remember her sister, or she has dementia. But the dead sister died in 1969 or 1967. Why need the obit promptly?

    *I changed the details.
    Time! Time! Time is what turns kittens into cats.

    Don't teach me a lesson; all I learn is that you are an asshole.

    I wish porn had subtitles.

  • #2
    What kind of job do you have that you would do that much research for someone? Reference librarians typically direct you to and show you how to use the records and online tools to answer your own question.

    But four people to research obit queries? Wow.

    Comment


    • #3
      1) Charge more for research, regardless of result
      2) Prepay

      That is all.
      A lion however, will only devour your corpse, whereas an SC is not sated until they have destroyed your soul. (Quote per infinitemonkies)

      Comment


      • #4
        I agree. People should be paying for the time researchers spend on their request. If they want it free, let them come by in person and look themselves.
        Aliterate : A person who is capable of reading but unwilling to do so.

        "A man who does not read has no advantage over a man who cannot" - Mark Twain

        Comment


        • #5
          Our city vital statistics dept will look up death certificates for $2 each, but if they don't find anything - and they're in a good mood - they may not even charge you. It's $10 for a copy of anything they do find.

          For obits you can go online and seach the newspaper's archives, but we only go back to about 1997, I think. For the other paper that closed in 1982 they'd be out of luck, unless the public library has it on microfiche.

          People are funny about stuff like that. They think we should be able to go back to when the paper was founded in the 1800's and find everything that ever appeared in it.
          When you start at zero, everything's progress.

          Comment


          • #6
            Quoth Auto View Post
            What kind of job do you have that you would do that much research for someone? Reference librarians typically direct you to and show you how to use the records and online tools to answer your own question.
            I work in a public library, which is funded by the city. Granted, someone walks in with an obit request, we get the microfilm, show them how to use the microfilm machines, tell them a copy is $.15, or they can save it on their flash drive, and we leave them alone (well, unless they come looking for us). But people need a lot of handholding. I do have a cw who will sit at the machine and do the work for the patron; she's not suppose to.

            But four people to research obit queries? Wow.
            We don't look up obits all day. I might work on that for 2 hours a day, though that includes running the credit card machine if the patron called with a credit card number, for ex.

            1) Charge more for research, regardless of result
            2) Prepay
            We want that, but changing any library fees have to go through City Council - and they are too busy to give a shit. A side story, once in a while a City Council person will ask us to make a copy of an article about them. I suppose to have it framed or give it to his/her mother; in other words, it doesn't look like research that will help them make a better city. So, it's for personal reasons. And we are expected to drop what we are doing and do it right away and not charge for it.
            Time! Time! Time is what turns kittens into cats.

            Don't teach me a lesson; all I learn is that you are an asshole.

            I wish porn had subtitles.

            Comment


            • #7
              Quoth depechemodefan View Post
              [
              I did find an obit, and I'm thinking the worse of the person, like "you don't even remember your sister's date of death?" Granted, could be the person was too young to remember her sister, or she has dementia. But the dead sister died in 1969 or 1967. Why need the obit promptly?

              *I changed the details.
              david letterman style

              10- She is doing geneology and is hoping the obit has info she didnt have
              9- She never knew her sister
              8- same as above but add who was given up for adoption
              7- she is working on a family history book and it needs to go to the printers soon
              6- she just realised she had the wrong obit cut out all these years in her scrapbook/memory book and she is freaking out
              5- she needed to verify some data only the obit could provide
              4- she needed to prove she was dead
              3- her mother or father recently died and she wanted to have simular info from sister obit in their
              2- another sibling recently died and she is looking for simularities
              and 1!
              Her life is more important than yours.

              Comment


              • #8
                Quoth depechemodefan View Post
                Please don't resubmit your requests
                Simple solution: If it's submitted twice, charge them twice ^_^
                "For a musician, the SNES sound engine is like using Crayola Crayons. Nobuo Uematsu used Crayola Crayons to paint the Sistine Chapel." - Jeremy Jahns (re: "Dancing Mad")
                "The difference between an amateur and a master is that the master has failed way more times." - JoCat
                "Thinking is difficult, therefore let the herd pronounce judgment!" ~ Carl Jung
                "There's burning bridges, and then there's the lake just to fill it with gasoline." - Wiccy, reddit
                "Retail is a cruel master, and could very well be the most educational time of many people's lives, in its own twisted way." - me
                "Love keeps her in the air when she oughta fall down...tell you she's hurtin' 'fore she keens...makes her a home." - Capt. Malcolm Reynolds, "Serenity" (2005)
                Acts of Gord – Read it, Learn it, Love it!
                "Our psychic powers only work if the customer has a mind to read." - me

                Comment


                • #9
                  9- She never knew her sister
                  I looked at the obit. The dead sister died when she was 20 and the living sister was married (and mentioned) so my presumption that maybe the dead sister died before she was born isn't correct.

                  Simple solution: If it's submitted twice, charge them twice
                  I've done that. The moron will email us when the receive the second response, "I already got the obituary. Thanks (for nothing)." and they won't pay for the second one.

                  Also, by accident I found an article on the dead sister. She was killed in a car crash, though the two people in her car and the off-duty policeman that was involved in the collision (no mention of who was at fault) survived. So I mentioned that that was found and it would be $3 for that art, in additon for the $3 for obit. So hopefully we can get that money.

                  I ever mention that we tell people to pay with credit card, check or money order? And people still send cash? And I just stare at that cash, wanting to send it back and ask them to go get a money order, we don't accept cash. But management doesn't want to inconvenence the patron.
                  Last edited by depechemodefan; 07-31-2010, 04:13 PM. Reason: adding
                  Time! Time! Time is what turns kittens into cats.

                  Don't teach me a lesson; all I learn is that you are an asshole.

                  I wish porn had subtitles.

                  Comment

                  Working...
                  X