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  • Possible check scammer

    The Check Lady thread reminded me of this guy, but I feel he deserves his own thread.

    SC: I lost my debit card, do you take checks?
    Me: Yes.
    SC: Sweet! *orders nearly $100 worth of stuff, including gas, snacks, and a phone card*
    Me: *Runs check, it comes back declined* sorry, your check declined, do you have another form of payment?
    SC: What?! No, I don't the check's all I have, can you run it again?
    Me: I can try, but if there's not enough money in your account then it's not going to go through.
    SC: Well then, I don't want any of this stuff! *Pushes snacks across the counter towards me, and storms out*

    I don't know if he was genuinely surprised that he didn't have enough money in his account, if he was deliberately writing a bad check, or If he just didn't know how checks work. Either way, I had to void that huge transaction out, and he was rude about it.
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  • #2
    I bet he lost his debit card, someone found it, drained all the money out of his account, hence why his check was being declined.
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    • #3
      Quoth AmbrosiaWriter View Post
      I bet he lost his debit card, someone found it, drained all the money out of his account, hence why his check was being declined.
      That's entirely possible, and what I was thinking.
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      • #4
        Quoth AmbrosiaWriter View Post
        I bet he lost his debit card, someone found it, drained all the money out of his account, hence why his check was being declined.
        I disagree. If he really thought the money was there, he would have been worried instead of rude. His behavior says scammer to me also.

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        • #5
          no doubt he was trying to write a bad check (with no intention of paying it), or at minimum; was trying to kite a check.
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          • #6
            Quoth Teskeria View Post
            I disagree. If he really thought the money was there, he would have been worried instead of rude. His behavior says scammer to me also.
            Not necessarily. I had a woman whose cards kept declining and she was going "OMG this is bullshit! What the hell are you going to do about it?"

            She knew she had money in there, but she wasn't worried, she was just all kinds of pissed off and rude.
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            • #7
              Quoth Lady_Foxfire View Post
              SC: I lost my debit card, do you take checks?
              Me: Yes.
              SC: Sweet!
              SC: ... All right! I'm so glad you take checks! I was worried that you might actually want MONEY! *whew*
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              • #8
                I saw a lot of older folks (folks of all ages really but older people including my mom seemed to do it more), would actually write their pin on the back of their debit cards...

                I got my mom to stop that nonsense the second I saw her pin there.

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                • #9
                  Now if you wanted to be sneaky. you'd write the wrong PIN on there, so that if someone finds/steals the card and tries to get cash, it'll get the card shut down after X wrong attempts.

                  (I remember in the old days when the ATMs used to actually retain your card until the end of the transaction, rather than just dipping it like now. If you put the wrong PIN three times in a row, it ate your card and you had to get it back by mail. The sound of doom doesnt have to involve thunder and earthquakes: that's it right there, that little muffled clink as your card hits the tray in the bottom of the machine.)

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                  • #10
                    Quoth Shalom View Post
                    Now if you wanted to be sneaky. you'd write the wrong PIN on there, so that if someone finds/steals the card and tries to get cash, it'll get the card shut down after X wrong attempts.

                    (I remember in the old days when the ATMs used to actually retain your card until the end of the transaction, rather than just dipping it like now. If you put the wrong PIN three times in a row, it ate your card and you had to get it back by mail. The sound of doom doesnt have to involve thunder and earthquakes: that's it right there, that little muffled clink as your card hits the tray in the bottom of the machine.)
                    i'm laughing at this cos on one of my other message boards a guy (X) did this on purpose to someone else (Y). Y had left the card in the machine but when X tried to tell him about it Y started yelling at him and stormed off. So... yeah, X "tried" to enter the pin 3 times and shoooop, into the machine the card went.

                    Petty perhaps but, in a way... it means Y's card can't be stolen now, right?


                    but seriously, why does the cashier have to 'fix' this for customers? they're not the bank and it's the bank they have to take this up with. cashiers don't have magical banking unicorns in their back pockets.

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                    • #11
                      Quoth Josh View Post
                      was trying to kite a check.
                      This is what I figure. He didn't realize that with electronic checking if you don't have the funds when the check is run it gets declined.

                      Quoth barainga View Post
                      I saw a lot of older folks (folks of all ages really but older people including my mom seemed to do it more), would actually write their pin on the back of their debit cards...

                      I got my mom to stop that nonsense the second I saw her pin there.
                      I can top that. When I was working crew at a McD's we had a new manager that marked the three combination numbers on the dial of the big safe in the office because she could not remember the combination.

                      When I saw what she had done I let the store manager know. I believe the new manager was let go on the spot and I spent the next hour trying to scrub the safe dial so it didn't show the combination.
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                      • #12
                        Quoth Shalom View Post
                        Now if you wanted to be sneaky. you'd write the wrong PIN on there, so that if someone finds/steals the card and tries to get cash, it'll get the card shut down after X wrong attempts.
                        That's a great idea. And to make it really work, you have to write it in such bad handwriting that it could be 8ish combinations... you know, just make it ambiguous enough to make the guy think a digit could be a 9 or a 4, or a 5 or a 6, and so on... so the guy genuinely tries a bunch of different combos before he's locked out.

                        Oh, and maybe make it look like it might be upside down, so you use just 1's, 6's, 9's, and 0's.
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                        • #13
                          Quoth barainga View Post
                          I saw a lot of older folks (folks of all ages really but older people including my mom seemed to do it more), would actually write their pin on the back of their debit cards...

                          I got my mom to stop that nonsense the second I saw her pin there.
                          My mother used to say the numbers out loud, kind of under her breath, as she entered them. I had a really hard time trying to get her to stop that.
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                          • #14
                            Quoth patiokitty View Post
                            My gut feeling tells me he was trying to scam you and was not aware that it is possible to run the checks right away. Sucks to be him!
                            Wouldn't surprise me at all. I don't know of any businesses that take cheques anymore and I definitely wasn't aware that you can run a cheque immediately.

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                            • #15
                              Quoth Pixilated View Post
                              I definitely wasn't aware that you can run a cheque immediately.
                              Then I hope you're sitting down for this next part:

                              Some places not only run the check immediately, they don't need the actual piece of paper afterwards. They then hand it back to the customer.

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