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  • #16
    Having to do uni assignments at the moment and ones that also relate to speeches, how will little dittims be able to answer a teachers question if they have not done the research themselves.

    Unfortunately she is most probably going to spawn her own lazy devil children in her wonderful teens years.

    Forensic Waitress has decided to sit in the corner and weep for the world.
    Am I sad because I am looking forward to the day when the people I will be dealing with will no longer be able to talk back?

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    • #17
      Quoth blas87 View Post
      IPF...how do you think all the honor students and valedictorians got their titles at my second high school? They were all dumb as bricks.......I caught one of them trying to copy off me in English class......of course they were all in sports and cheerleading or some other type of important extra-curricular thing.

      Not saying ALL smart kids are cheaters. I'm sure most valedictorians and honor students do earn their titles legitimately.
      The top students in my class cheated their way there. Some got to "without cheating" use their textbooks while taking tests (they were sports people) [although the rest of the class didn't have that option]. I was as close to the top as I cared to be (literally, I made sure I was just under the main cheaters). You could always tell which students had their parents do the homework for them when they were younger -- more or less. It definitely wasn't a help later on.

      Actually the top of the class.... head cheater.... is now a lawyer....

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      • #18
        Man, that kid is fucked. She's never going to get anywhere if her daddy keeps doing all the work for her.

        What disturbs me is that this isn't a case of a kid cheating and the parent looking the other way, the parent is even doing the cheating for her. So when she's older, she's not even going to be bothered being lazy enough to cheat.

        There is a boy in my school who was top of our year in four subjects during exams, without any sort of cheating. What's more, he showed up just in time for an exam (he and his girlfriend had been "studying" in the library), and left an hour early, and got the highest grade in the year . Everyone hates him. It's hilerious, although maybe I just think that because a) I don't do that subject and b) he's my best friend.
        I'm busy, you're an idiot, have a nice day

        At least I shall die as I have lived; completely surrounded by morons.

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        • #19
          Quoth blas87 View Post
          I think it's only been cool to be smart for like, the past 10 years. I remember sitcoms from the early 90s and smart kids were ALWAYS nerds.

          Now we make fun of stupid people all around. Isn't that ironic?

          Haha that all sounded ridiculous. Funny how time changes things.

          I don't think we're making fun of the stupid enough. There are still morons out there who make life difficult for us all with their lack of education.

          That being said that father needs to be introduced to a book shot out of a canon. What he wanted is a.) illegal last I checked and b.) teachers are catching that stuff easier now with the internet helping them.

          I could just see the teacher talking to the kid now.

          T:Who did you copy off of?
          K: Daddy bought me one from this library. He said it's ok.

          Urge to kill rising....
          "It's not what your doing so much as the idiotic way your doing it." Vincent Valentine from Final Fantasy 7.

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          • #20
            I'm a really mean mom! I tell my children if they get into huge trouble at school and/or cheat I will make them read a book by Shakespeare and write me a report on it. Plus, I will not translate what Shakespeare wrote, they have to figure it out themselves.

            I tell them that is price for acting stupid when I and their father know they are not. So far, none of them have had to read Shakespeare.
            Do not annoy the woman with the flamethrower!

            If you don't like it, I believe you can go to hell! ~Trinity from The Matrix

            Yes, MadMike does live under my couch.

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            • #21
              Quoth Misanthropical View Post
              I'm a really mean mom! I tell my children if they get into huge trouble at school and/or cheat I will make them read a book by Shakespeare and write me a report on it.
              shakespeare as a punishment :eyes the complete shakespeare library to the left: I would've misbehaved on purpose if I had you as mom I love Shakespeare!
              Honestly.... the image of that in my head made me go "AWESOME!"..... and then I remembered I am terribly strange.-Red dazes

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              • #22
                If they had shown a great love for Shakespeare then I would have found another punishment for them, but so far, even though they are my children, they haven't wanted to read his work, which makes me a sad panda.

                All his works are on my bookcase if they want to read it on their own, but so far, it's been a no go.
                Do not annoy the woman with the flamethrower!

                If you don't like it, I believe you can go to hell! ~Trinity from The Matrix

                Yes, MadMike does live under my couch.

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                • #23
                  Quoth Misanthropical View Post
                  If they had shown a great love for Shakespeare then I would have found another punishment for them, but so far, even though they are my children, they haven't wanted to read his work, which makes me a sad panda.
                  Aw, I'm sad, too.

                  I hate to say this, and don't throw books at me, but sometimes movies are the best way to introduce it. Any of Branaugh's stuff is good. Long, but good. After all, Shakespeare is intended to be seen and heard, not read.

                  (Just, please for the love of all that is holy and good, don't show 'modern' adaptations which feature Romeo brandishing a machine gun. )
                  "Even arms dealers need groceries." ~ Ziva David, NCIS

                  Tony: "Everyone's counting on you, just do what you do best."
                  Abby: "Dance?" ~ NCIS

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                  • #24
                    Quoth Misanthropical View Post
                    All his works are on my bookcase if they want to read it on their own, but so far, it's been a no go.
                    How about starting with the movies based on his works? There is of course Hamlet and Romeo & Juliet, but there have also been good versions of MacBeth, Julius Ceasar, and the Tempest made over the years. I'm sure there are others too. Or maybe sitting down and reading the different parts in voice with them. Make the voices silly and fun, and have them read certain characters through a scene. It could be fun, maybe. Then again, you may just have to wait until they develop their literary tastes enough to be interested.
                    The Rich keep getting richer because they keep doing what it was that made them rich. Ditto the Poor.
                    "Hy kan tell dey is schmot qvestions, dey is makink my head hurt."
                    Hoc spatio locantur.

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                    • #25
                      Much Ado About Nothing : Best adaptation of Shakespeare's works EVER.
                      "I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question."

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                      • #26
                        Quoth AdminAssistant View Post
                        After all, Shakespeare is intended to be seen and heard, not read.
                        I agree wholeheartedly. Shakespeare didn't write novels, he wrote plays. His work shouldn't be read, it should watched.

                        Movies are simply the most accesible way to experience them these days.
                        "I can tell her you're all tied up in the projection room." Sunset Boulevard.

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                        • #27
                          Ah the stories I can tell.

                          I told before about the dad calling for his son, who (the son) had to find out what was the state bird, tree, etc. Yeah, way to go dad. I think I told him (or maybe another parent) that the information was at the local library, but I think he said they couldn't go.

                          Then there was this mom who called asking for some books. She told me they were for her son's project. At some point I asked why was she looking up the books, not her son. First was something about the internet at home was down, then he was busy with sports, then at some point when I told her he should do his own homework she said he was in a prestegious school and he made 1600 on the SAT (or whatever the high score was). Did I mention she lived in the rich part of town?
                          Time! Time! Time is what turns kittens into cats.

                          Don't teach me a lesson; all I learn is that you are an asshole.

                          I wish porn had subtitles.

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                          • #28
                            Quoth depechemodefan View Post
                            Then there was this mom who called asking for some books. She told me they were for her son's project. At some point I asked why was she looking up the books, not her son. First was something about the internet at home was down, then he was busy with sports, then at some point when I told her he should do his own homework she said he was in a prestegious school and he made 1600 on the SAT (or whatever the high score was). Did I mention she lived in the rich part of town?
                            I'm sorry but that sounds out of line. If I was busy I used to ask my mom if she could pick up a book for me, or call and find out if --- is available.

                            And I would pick up things from the library or book store for my wife when she was in school.

                            Or when I was in middle school and couldn't type worth a sniff so my mom would type up what I hand wrote for me so it didn't take me till midnight and I could go on and work on my other homework while she typed?

                            So I guess even though I or she were doing all the work, we weren't actually doing our own homework?

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                            • #29
                              Quoth AdminAssistant View Post
                              (Just, please for the love of all that is holy and good, don't show 'modern' adaptations which feature Romeo brandishing a machine gun. )

                              I thought I was the only one that thought that movie sucked. Hamlet and Macbeth are my two favorite works from Shakespeare. The best movie adaptation for Hamlet was the one with Glenn Close and Mel Gibson. I have yet to see a movie adaptation for Macbeth.
                              I don't get paid enough to kiss your a**! -Groezig 5/31/08
                              Another day...another million braincells lost...-Sarlon 6/16/08
                              Chivalry is not dead. It's just direly underappreciated. -Samaliel 9/15/09

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                              • #30
                                So I guess even though I or she were doing all the work, we weren't actually doing our own homework?
                                No, she was doing it from scratch. He just have her a subject and she looked them up herself (which made me scratch my head when she said the internet was down at home) and then called us to pull them. I didn't give the whole story since I was being relieved from a desk. It also involved me having to call back to let her know about a book and the maid answered and asked me to leave a message with the maid.

                                And picking up a book isn't a bad thing to do for someone, it's when mom/dad/bobo does the work and goes gets the book and the kid has no idea where it came from...it's like the library fairy magically made it appear, instead of using the brain to work out how to find stuff.

                                And heck, I typed myself, even though I wanted to go to sleep and it's 2am and I'm still typing. I'm not getting my mom to do it for me, and this was back when I had a typewriter and I was sol when I left out a sentence and had to retype a whole page. There are people out there (like 2 ex boyfriends) who work on projects for their company and it's 4am and it's due at 8. They know they have to have it done by 8am.

                                I also hate these people who come in who can't "type worth a sniff" and want me to type for them. The keyboard has letters, if you can read you can type. I don't have the time to type up someone's resume.

                                Though yes, I shouldn't have said anything, but I'm really getting sick of these kids having their parents do their work.
                                Last edited by Ree; 06-14-2008, 01:23 PM. Reason: Excessive quoting
                                Time! Time! Time is what turns kittens into cats.

                                Don't teach me a lesson; all I learn is that you are an asshole.

                                I wish porn had subtitles.

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