Dude, where’s my car – Long, Epic, Ongoing

[ADeMartino]

I'm betting the car was turned over to someone to cover a debt, and has probably been chopped by now.

[Tama]

If he owes debt to a legbreakin' type, something tells me that he's in way, way over his head...

Maybe he's got a drug habit? I could easily see that being the case.

[thatcrazyredhead]

This is even better than the one I took last week on the guy's personal insurance for the theft of a trailer not on the policy that he admitted he used for work.

[dakhur]

What's the car being burnt got to do with it? Around here, it's unusual if a stolen car ISN'T set on fire!

[Irving Patrick Freleigh]

What's the car being burnt got to do with it? Around here, it's unusual if a stolen car ISN'T set on fire!

The car probably ISN'T stolen. It's been torched for the insurance money, methinks.

[eltf177]

I can't remember the last time I saw so many red flags!

Agreed, this is going to be epic once all the facts come to light!

Please keep us updated entertained!

[wolfie]

Had to double-check, but Ghel is in a different country than you are. Otherwise I could have sworn that the guy making the insurance claim was Mr. Goodhair.

[Crossbow]

Hey Jay- is there still an empty seat next to you for this show?
I brought some popcorn.

[Shyla]

Is this the sort of thing he could go to jail for? Wow. He must be involved with the wrong kind of people to risk going to jail over a $10000 car loan.

[RealUnimportant]

Good grief - so many red flags, it looks like homecoming!

[Crossbow]

Is this the sort of thing he could go to jail for? Wow. He must be involved with the wrong kind of people to risk going to jail over a $10000 car loan.

Well, if he filed a stolen vehicle report with the police, then Filing a False Report is a definite possibility. Felony Insurance Fraud (esp. if the bank/insurance co. are out of state) is likely. And if the car was torched, there's the chance of an Arson charge as well. How mcuh, if any, he's personally up for is up to the authorities.


If it was me, I'd say he's looking at distinct possibility of a severe decrease in his standard of living.

[DGoddessChardonnay]

If it was me, I'd say he's looking at distinct possibility of a severe decrease in his standard of living.

I'd dare say he may be seeing an "update" to his wardrobe in the future as well.

They say orange is the new black.

[TimmyHate]

If it was me, I'd say he's looking at distinct possibility of a severe decrease in his standard of living.

This is a definite. (Bank) will fire him so quickly he'll experience more G's than a fighter jet.

As for Criminal - note sure as yet. Unless we get strong evidance, we're unlikely to press charges for fraud -> this requires 'beyond reasonable doubt'. To decline a claim we only require 'balance of probabilities' which is a much lower standard of proof (I.E criminal requires 95% certainty, civil is like 60%).

Of course when we take all this information (along with the new stuff we're getting from (Bank), such as key card access, workstation internet history etc etc)) and challenge him, if he confesses....

[TimmyHate]

What's the car being burnt got to do with it? Around here, it's unusual if a stolen car ISN'T set on fire!

Its two factors:

1) We got this off the record from the police, but through official channels we keep getting told that they have not yet recovered it.

2) In our experience, this car is sporty, but not so much so that you steal it for a joyride. You don't go through the hassle of circumventing a 5 star alarm for a joyride either. IF this was legitimately stolen (big if), it was taken by professsional car theives to be stripped for parts

An interesting addition; many who attempt to commit fraud burn their cars out thinking it makes it easier and destroys all the evidance. In fact what it does it give us a TON of extra evidance - we can see if it was hotwired or not, how the fire started, and even sometime estimate the size of the last driver...

[brucetiki]

I, too, will be sitting in for this session. I look forward to the next chapter.