You Forgot Pants, Miss.

[wolfie]

Just curious, but what are the laws regarding surveillance cameras and That Which Must Not Be Filmed. For example, a chav/bogan/other_despised_group teenage couple decides to steal gas at a service station. He runs the pump, while she, from start to finish of the pumping, stands facing the security camera with her top lifted to reveal her bare breasts. Since the surveillance camera system records everything within its field of view, all the footage of the gas theft (which the station owner would want to show to the police as evidence) also shows an underage girl topless.

Would the station owner (and owner of the camera/recorder setup) be subject to charges of manufacturing and possessing child pornography, since their system filmed a topless underage girl? If they supply the footage to the police as evidence in the gas theft, are they now subject to charges of distributing child pornography? Or does the fact that the system passively records EVERYTHING that happens on-site, so the decision to create the illegal-to-make footage rests with the person who did That Which Must Not Be Filmed in view of one of the cameras rather than the owner of the cameras, leave the site/owner in the clear so long as they don't actively make a copy of the footage to be retained (other than to turn over to the police as evidence of the theft)?

[Raveni]

I do not play an attorney on TV, but my understanding in the states is that most laws only ban it when the camera is set up "for the purpose" of filming the nudity.

[Ironclad Alibi]

Also not an attorney, but wouldn't the girl be guilty of indecent exposure?

[Lace Neil Singer]

That wouldn't work here as anyone who drives has to be over eighteen and in the UK, "underage" is anyone under sixteen, which is our age of consent. Also, no-one under sixteen is allowed to use the pumps anyway. So no the subject wouldn't come up, but in any case, the police I'm sure would be happy to add on a charge of indecent exposure to the charge of fuel theft when they catch her.

[sstabeler]

Off the top of my head, it'd only be an offence if the camera was set up in such a way that it was basically guaranteed to catch naked kids. So, for example, setting up a camera in the changing rooms at the local school is GOING to get you prosecuted, but a camera that films kids leaving school probably wouldn't.

Most basically, if you could get prosecuted for child porn for catching a naked kid on security cameras, wouldn't SCs have tried it before now?

[otakuneko]

Most basically, if you could get prosecuted for child porn for catching a naked kid on security cameras, wouldn't SCs have tried it before now?

Probably, but in an environment where if an underaged kid "sexted" another underaged kid both get charged with kiddie porn offenses, I wouldn't be surprised if eventually an SC did try it.

[WishfulSpirit]

I'm having trouble picturing this. If she had a long cardigan on, I'm assuming it looked like she was standing there in a crop top, cardigan and undies if you viewed her from the front?

[WishfulSpirit]

I'm not exactly a toothpick myself (5'6" and 260lbs, wearing size 18-22 depending on the cut), and I'm creeping up on 43. I don't understand the whole 'dressing your age' thing and I never have. I dress to suit my size and shape, still get IDed, still get hit on by people, and whatnot. I think that dressing for the body you have is some of the most important clothing advise out there, and if somebody 'old' has the body to get away with something that some people consider 'too young' for them, fuck the nay sayers.

I think mostly it's about dressing your actual body, but dressing like your mother or teenage daughter just makes most women look weird. Clothes a generation too old age anyone, but when I see a 40 or 50 something in clothes from the juniors department, not only does the cut usually not work (they're designed for teenage bodies, hello!) but it looks like they are desperately clinging to their youth, and they end up looking older than they are because of it.

That said there are plenty of clothes out there that transcend time. A t-shirt and jeans (if they're the right t-shirt and jeans for each person) can go from infant to grandma with no problems, and the right black dress looks fantastic on every age group past diapers.

[blas]

I'm just a bit out of the target age range (late 20s), but I've lived in AE and Old Navy hooded sweaters and plain jeans from Kohls pretty much since I started my factory job 9 years ago. They are a timeless look, I tell you. Bootcut jeans and a hoodie over a layered tank and tshirt looks way better than a crop top showing off your rolls and gut with skinny jeans up to your ribcage tighter than sausage casing.

[dalesys]

...tighter than sausage casing.

Some of like our sausage cased...

[Aragarthiel]

I've only skimmed over this thread, but has anyone mentioned People of Walmart?

I used to live in Arizona and it wasn't uncommon to see skin-toned tops that, from a distance, made someone look naked. Now that I've moved east, they appear a lot less often.

Off topic, but last month I saw a very large woman at the grocery store in a coat that was long, brown, and shaggy. She looked like a woolly mammoth.

[registerrodeo]

There is a mountain of a man who I occasionally see on the bus - 6'2 easy and at least 400lbs- who wears this long hooded brown coat/shawl type thing. Seriously we have taken to calling him Fozzie Bear

[MoonCat]

I kind of figure that if I'm old enough to have worn a style the last time it was popular, I'm too old to wear it now. Mini skirts were a "thing" when I went to high school, so....nope. But I do wear leggings, since I lost weight they look okay on me (with a top that covers my butt, though).

Some people look good in what's trendy and some don't, regardless of age. There is such a thing as indecent exposure, too. What's appropriate for the beach isn't appropriate for the grocery store or the restaurant.

[blas]

People of Walmart is even better in person than online especially if you're from the Midwest!

Where else can you see ol Elroy and his '96 Superbowl Champs Packer hoodie that's seen more mustard stains than Chris Christie, trucker hat that's been ran over more times than the legless neighborhood squirrel, worn out butt pocketed once were Levis jeans and his mullet hairdo with his Marlboro reds sticking out of his pocket and a cold PBR in his hand?

[Tama]

Drop 50 pounds and Elroy would be a hipster