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    So we got a resume via e-mail today. That in and of itself is not unusual as it happens fairly regularly.

    The guy wrote a cover letter to my boss where he says that "I worked with you before". So I tell my boss that he worked with this guy. Boss doesn't recall his name.

    So I scour the resume (he had a 4 page resume, and lists the companies he's worked for while self employed, and the full time positions he's had).

    I find our company, it says he worked for us from 10/98-10/99. I wasn't here then, but no one that was has any idea who he is. So we look into old records, and find him.

    He worked here from 6/98-8/98. 1 week of June, all of July, and half of August. In fact he actually went on vacation during this month +.

    But he has on his resume that he worked for us for a year, and the month he thinks he starts he had already moved on!?

    Didn't he think about modifying that before sending it to us?

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    Our time vs SC time
    1 minute = 20 minutes
    1 hour = 8 hours
    1 week = 3 weeks
    1 month = 6 months

    So 7 weeks = 1 year? Did I calculate that right?

    I'm amazed you could even find any of the paperwork in the old records.
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    • #3
      Bad memory? That was over 10 years ago. I can't remember *when* I worked everywhere, especially those positions of shorter duration.
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      • #4
        Maybe he thought it was so long ago, nobody would check, and they would be embarrassed to interview him without remembering him so he had a better chance?
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        • #5
          Quoth r2cagle View Post
          I'm amazed you could even find any of the paperwork in the old records.
          Our Secretary is impeccable when it comes to paperwork. Of course only she knows where anything is. But it only took her 2 minutes to find the person.

          Quoth Primer View Post
          Bad memory? That was over 10 years ago. I can't remember *when* I worked everywhere, especially those positions of shorter duration.
          My guess is something like that. He's jumped around from job to job, so he can't remember when exactly he worked somewhere.

          That said, if I had worked at that many places and for that short of time, I wouldn't have dreamed to even put them on my resume. The answer was no the second the 2nd page of previous employers (not places where he was a subcontractor) jumped out of the printer.

          That and if you jump around so much you should have a continuously updating resume/portfolio. I do and I've only had the one job in this field.

          Could be a bad memory, but it's irresponsible, even if it was that long ago. Big boss said he wouldn't hire him, since his resume could be all lies for all we know.

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          • #6
            Anyone who sends a 4 page resume would not get a look from me. One page plus cover letter or no job for you. Simple.
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            • #7
              I'm certain my resume would be more than a page...

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              • #8
                I think I got my present job with a one-page CV/résumé. The "cover letter" was the e-mail I attached it to saying, essentially, "Hi, I see you're hiring, here it is."

                But it takes actual skill to put sufficient detail onto one page. I think I cheated slightly by reducing the type to 10pt.

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                • #9
                  Quoth Hobbs View Post
                  I'm certain my resume would be more than a page...
                  Mine is. There's no way to get my education and experience on one page unless I knock it all down to something like this. Gotta admit, it means nothing. You have no idea what I did at any of my jobs.


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                  • #10
                    Ok I will admit that for certain jobs a one page resume might not be sufficient, my comment was directed moreso at people like the guy who applied at my store last week with a FOUR page resume...for a retail job. Ummm, overkill much?
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                    • #11
                      I would consider a four-page resume for a construction or retail job to be overkill. Focus on what's really important for the job. The people in charge of hiring probably don't have the time to wade through such a long resume and will just toss it to the side.

                      It would have to depend on the specific job and the qualifications one needs for it. But every resume-writing expert seems to think one page is the limit.
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                      • #12
                        A resume doesn't really need to go back more than ten or fifteen years. Anything before that would almost certainly be out of date skills-wise.
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                        • #13
                          Quoth Irving Patrick Freleigh View Post
                          Focus on what's really important for the job. <snip>It would have to depend on the specific job and the qualifications one needs for it. But every resume-writing expert seems to think one page is the limit.

                          then explain to me why is it when I do trim down my resume to "only relavant information" I get told I have "too many gaps"-sorry I send my full two pages....
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                          • #14
                            Quoth draftermatt View Post
                            Could be a bad memory, but it's irresponsible, even if it was that long ago.
                            Quoth wagegoth View Post
                            A resume doesn't really need to go back more than ten or fifteen years. Anything before that would almost certainly be out of date skills-wise.
                            I have been working for my current employer since 1984, and in my current position since 1990. If, for some horrible reason, I had to go back out on a job hunt, I'd HAVE to try to dredge up old history.

                            I do know that as of 1988, when I got financial aid to go back to school full time, that over half of my previous employers were no longer in existence.

                            I also remember that in 1978, the year I turned 18, I held 10 different positions, including one night at a pub when they were desperate for kitchen help, and one day as a movie extra. I doubt I would be able to remember all the rest of them.
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                            • #15
                              I wouldn't expect anyone to remember all their jobs for the rest of their lives. Or at least not the exact dates they worked. I have to wrack my brain at times to remember what months I worked at Burger King when I was 15.

                              Any resume experts will tell you that a resume is supposed to be "mistake free".

                              Say this guy applies to one of my competitors, and they call me to say "This guy says he worked for you for a year from 98-99" are they going to hire him when I look him up and say "sorry one month"?

                              You should be able to back up anything you put on a resume because somebody might call you on it.

                              Maybe they're (or I'm in this case) being a dick, sure, but in this current state of employment when one opening begets 250 applicants, your resume is the only thing that's going to get your foot in the door. And I'm not going to hire anyone who's a frequent flier when it comes to employment, especially if they have mistakes/lies on their resume.

                              And when I'm not even hiring right now, and this guy wants his resume on file for when we are?

                              Maybe they have bad luck and are generally a good employee, but if I have 250 applicants, they're not getting a call to see if they're worth while, unless everyone else royally sucks.

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