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  • A sucky donor and a sucky new manager

    I still love where I work but this one came close to making me walk out. And thanks to an ineffective new manager, I may get fired anyway.

    I took a call from this piece of...work. He had made a donation through our web site but he called us because he wasn't happy that the amount of his donation did not automatically appear on the certificate he chose to let his friends who he was sending it to, how much he gave. I started to explain that most people don't want the amount on it but he could put it in himself in the personalized message he enters. This wasn't good enough and he knows how it should be because he's worked for charities before.
    Then he complained about the lack of the word "Christmas" on our cards and certificates. I started to explain that we don't use it because then we would have to make cards for the other holidays by name and it would mean fewer wishes granted for the kids because we would be spending a lot on having the cards made. He accused me of "arguing" with him and I said I was just expalining why we do what we do.
    Then he complained about the design of one of our cards. It has pictures of reindeer and says "Reindeer Wishes" on it. He said it's a rediculous card. I told him it's one of the cards designed by one of our wish kids. What I didn't say was it's also our most popular card. Again he said I was arguing.
    THEN he complained because he thinks our web site should allow him to add his friends to our mailing list because "they would donate a lot of money".
    AGAIN I tried to explain to him why. That most people don't want us to solicite them without their permission. AGAIN he accused me of arguing.
    By this time, I had had enough. I had a LOT of work he was keeping me from and he would not shut up. I was seeing red by now and I was on the verge of telling him to go fuck himself but I just slammed the phone down on him and cursed out loud, scaring a few people around me because I have NEVER lost it like that before.
    Of course he calle dback less than a minute later and demanded my manager.
    This is where the sucky new manager comes in. He is almost never in his office so this screaming pustule got his voicemail.
    When the manager came back and listened to the vm, he asked me for my side and I gave it to him. He told me the message was long and that the guy demanded something be done asap or he would go all the way up the ladder to the top if he had to. My manager told me then that he would take care of it now to head that off. 6 hours later, I asked if he had called him yet and he said not yet. 2 DAYS LATER, I asked him again if he had called him and he still hadn't! He told me he decided to give the guy a "cooling off period"!
    In my experience, guys like this don't cool off. They simmer and then boil over.
    And if he gets through to the CEO, he may have no choice but to fire me.

    Sorry fo rthe epic length but it felt good to take out my anger on the keyboard.
    "All I've ever learned from love was how to shoot somebody who out-drew ya"

  • #2
    Wow, somebody's REALLY unclear on the whole "charity" concept, isn't he?? I hope things work out and you don't lose your job thanks to that asshat. (Though if you do... write him a begging letter since you know how much he loves to support charities....)

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    • #3
      Nice... so he points out something he doesn't like, you explain why it's that way, and he calls it arguing...

      So... what WOULD the correct response be? Bow, scrape, and change it immediately?

      I hate people who think because they spend a few dollars in our store, or donate a few dollars to a charity, or volunteer a few hours a week, or do something TOTALLY unrelated that they're entitled to run the show. But then, this site wouldn't exist without them, would it?

      I wouldn't worry about it, though... I suspect your manager hasn't talked to the guy because... well, he's an unreasonable asshat. And I'm pretty sure the CEO won't give a damn because... he's an unreasonable asshat. Unless this guy is your single biggest donor or something, I doubt this will go anywhere. You might get a reprimand out of this, but I really can't see them turfing someone for this if they're otherwise a good employee.
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      • #4
        No. It is NOT standard to disclose the amount in the letters the family. Just that a gift was given and the name and address of the donor so the family can acknowledge the gift-and that can be omitted if the donor wishes to remain anonymous. Seriously, it's not as if I would be crass enough to mention an amount in a thank you letter, so why would I need to know it?

        But I'm looking through your post and I don't see anywhere that you did anything that would get you fired. You didn't do anything that would offend a normal sane human being.

        If he's too crazy and stupid to know the difference between arguing and explaining (which you did politely) then that's on him, not you.

        It sounds to me like you hung up to *avoid* doing something that would get you fired. If you get a talking to about this, I would emphasize that angle. That he was trying to pick a fight and provoke you and that you had no choice but to discontinue the call before you did or said something that would reflect badly on your organization.

        I hope they do the right thing by you.
        The best karma is letting a jerk bash himself senseless on the wall of your polite indifference.

        The stupid is strong with this one.

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        • #5
          People like that just make me so angry. Isn't there a parable in the New Testament about giving in secret being better than giving when everyone could see you? Expecting blandishments for doing the right thing is exactly the wrong reason to give (of course, it's never wrong to give).

          Just another gigantic, loser jackass. I'm sorry he happened to you, Sheldon.
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          • #6
            If you do get fired, you might wanna make sure that tool didnt tell any lies about you, otherwise you could have a good slander lawsuit to nail his ass for.

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            • #7
              Cooling off period??

              Kay I can understand giving some one a cooling off period but more than 3 hours?? I really don't see how you are going to get fired or the customer is going to get any compensation or even a call back.

              Guess the user needs to be given volunteer time with the local charity to see how much is done to make charity work. I help volunteer for a local charity food program and the amount of work that is required to make it happen is a lot.

              Thou we do have a couple of charities that scam in the spring they use one name and in the fall they use another name. Still charity work is hard work and treat people with proper respect.

              Happy Holidays. I personally celebrate three of them over december.

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              • #8
                Update

                First off, thanks everyone fo rthe support.

                I just wanted to update you all on the situation. As of today, 5DAYS since it happened, my boss still has not made the call. I got tired of waiting around so I went to his boss, who happened to be in HER boss' office and told them the situation. She is goin to call the man in the morning and they both seemed to understand about what happened so at least I'm not as worried as I had been.
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                • #9
                  Quoth Polenicus View Post
                  Nice... so he points out something he doesn't like, you explain why it's that way, and he calls it arguing...

                  So... what WOULD the correct response be? Bow, scrape, and change it immediately?
                  Perhaps:



                  *shrug*

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                  • #10
                    Quoth VComps View Post
                    Perhaps:



                    *shrug*
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                    • #11
                      I think the SC wants you to use a time machine to go back in time so things would be different (the SC will always be vague about that) so he won't have to suffer embarrassement/humilitation/broken blood vessel.
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