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"Is it the lie that keeps you sane? Is this the lie that keeps you sane?What is it?Can it be?Ought it to exist?"
"...and may it be that I cleave to the ugly truth, rather than the beautiful lie..."
I've seen the full video - it's a French police training video. Give me a few minutes to find it - there is a great video of two malinois taking down the guy, he falls on one of them and they don't lose the grip.
hee hee bitchin
Man's best friend indeed
I love the French in the background-- I understand most French, so it's awesome-- at one part, it looks like one of the officers is swinging the dog around-- what's up with that???
and yeah-- I heard the dog that got landed on yelp a bit, now that's dedication!
"Is it the lie that keeps you sane? Is this the lie that keeps you sane?What is it?Can it be?Ought it to exist?"
"...and may it be that I cleave to the ugly truth, rather than the beautiful lie..."
at one part, it looks like one of the officers is swinging the dog around-- what's up with that???
The dog was "in the zone" and bit the handler on the hand / arm and wouldn't let go (he was swinging it around to get it to let go - poor handling, he should know better that would only make the dog bite harder).
Ah. How does a trainer usually get a dog to let go? Voice commands?
.__.
"Is it the lie that keeps you sane? Is this the lie that keeps you sane?What is it?Can it be?Ought it to exist?"
"...and may it be that I cleave to the ugly truth, rather than the beautiful lie..."
The dogs grip (and adrenaline) was too much for voice commands. This is what looks like happened (I don't know for sure since I wasn't there, it happens to quickly, and the quality isn't the greatest).
First what caused it - as the dog released I am not sure what the handler did - either pet the dog on the side or grab it and the dog thought that it was someone else going after him - hence the bite.
As he was twirling the dog around he quickly lowered it to the ground, it hit the ground and still didn't let go. He had to scruff the dog (very high on the neck) and then pull it off. It happens quickly but the dog tried to grab his hand again.
It can happen with a dog that isn't properly trained to release but I don't think it was the case here. I just think the dog was too much "in the zone" to let go. Things go and move very quickly.
But - this happens a lot in schutzhund trials, the dog bites the sleeve and the helper twirls the dog around. This done for two reasons, to test the dog's grip (to make sure they won't let go) and for show (yes, the crowds do love it).
(Edit): I was watching this video and EVERY German shepherd slowed down as they were about to bite the sleeve. The malinois (the only one they showed with the bite - the last dog), didn't.
Ok, watching these links and finally getting a chance to see the Mythbusters dog episode, I have to wonder at the guard dog they were using in the tests. He wasn't that well trained. I was rather shocked at some of what they got away with actually.
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