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  • #16
    Quoth jerkface11 View Post
    Sorry I forgot that racist types generally don't know what they're talking about. All they'd have to do is read the history of the French/Indian war to know that europeans were big on scalping at the time.
    Oh, hell, back in the 400s BCE, the Scythians were pretty big on it, too. So were the Visigoths, Franks, and the Anglo-Saxons! Which could make for all kinds interesting come-backs for the "scalped" comment that Juwl got!
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    • #17
      Quoth Pagan View Post
      Oh, hell, back in the 400s BCE, the Scythians were pretty big on it, too. So were the Visigoths, Franks, and the Anglo-Saxons! Which could make for all kinds interesting come-backs for the "scalped" comment that Juwl got!
      So, my white as a lily manager, who probably has some Anglo Saxon in him, might've been insulting himself, too?
      "I call murder on that!"

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      • #18
        Honestly, most people don't even equate "scalping" with the removal of a person's scalp any more. These day's it has a much different application. Mostly in reference to re-selling tickets at a usurious markup.

        Oh, and while it may be true that it was a hobby for some in Europe, most references agree that it had fallen completely out of practice long before the events of the French/Indian war.

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        • #19
          Quoth Juwl View Post
          I should put everything he said...
          "What'd you do? Go to the casino and get scalped?"
          Without the 'Go to the casino' bit, it's something I might say intending to refer to either stereotypical 'cowboys and indians' movies, or to ancient European history. Thoughtless, perhaps, but with no racism intended. Pop-culture reference intended, instead.

          Adding the 'Go to the casino' bit? That tips it right over into clear, overt racial reference. And to modern Indians, not even the partly-mythical*, partly-real historic scalping. No ambiguity.


          * the myth says or implies that all native American tribes performed it. At least as the myth goes in this upside-down part of the world.
          Seshat's self-help guide:
          1. Would you rather be right, or get the result you want?
          2. If you're consistently getting results you don't want, change what you do.
          3. Deal with the situation you have now, however it occurred.
          4. Accept the consequences of your decisions.

          "All I want is a pretty girl, a decent meal, and the right to shoot lightning at fools." - Anders, Dragon Age.

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          • #20
            Quoth Juwl View Post
            So, my white as a lily manager, who probably has some Anglo Saxon in him, might've been insulting himself, too?
            Yep. Sounds like you could maybe manage to talk him into doing it himself!

            This is what's always made me laugh about certain Arab groups claiming to be anti-Semetic. Apparently, they hate themselves.

            BTW - I just got sheared again today, too. More like Billy Idol and it feels so good!
            It's floating wicker propelled by fire!

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            • #21
              it get pixie cuts, mary janes and wedges all the time caus emy mom like to think that im a normal ish girl ( i have though recently gleened that she gleened that her daught may or is gay) i swear to god if it wasnt for her i would look more butch than i do no when t comes to my hair, though my one dress ill keep, it fits, its long and it tones tone my boobs while shwoing that yes i am girl

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              • #22
                Sorry for the threadjack but. Both sides in the French Indian war got their Indian allies to scalp their fallen victims to collect the bounty. Before that the locals weren't doing it at all. (western tribes may have been I've never bothered to look it up)

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                • #23
                  Quoth Seshat View Post
                  Adding the 'Go to the casino' bit? That tips it right over into clear, overt racial reference. And to modern Indians, not even the partly-mythical*, partly-real historic scalping. No ambiguity.
                  None of the casinos where I've been "scalped" were run by native Americans. The concept of getting "scalped" in a casino applies to all casinos, not just the indian casinos.

                  One of the darker moments of US history is the Sand Creek Massacre. Some accounts I have read of that event tell of the soldiers scalping the indians.
                  "I don't have to be petty. The Universe does that for me."

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